I don't fly, and I am always above board.


Not really sure what the attitude is about, but as it is shared by a few I have to assume I am just coming across as a douche.

I have a background in java portlet dev and designing/programming autonomous PLC based control systems. I have, to this point, only asked questions. My practical reasons for wanting to stick with 7 do not require anyones approval. I have been screwing around with lmce for about 6 months, almost entirely offline, and have done some interesting things, considering how green I am to linux and how long it has been since I punched code.

I am here because I want to help. I need to be in a position to do so first. IF I can reach that point serving a need... I guess I don't understand why someone would take issue with it. Trying not to get all butt hurt over your comment Thom, but its tough when I walk in holding such respect for you. You said you could write THIS in a day which was what caught my attention. Sounded like a good place to start.

Instead of wasting time and energy implementing something for an old, out of date version that is already well underway in the new version, why not get yourself a copy of 0810 and learn by either squashing bugs or by implementing (or finishing) other new features?

First, because it is not a waste of my time. Until 810 becomes more stable I have to sell working products/feature enhancements to pay for the time and hardware to throw at development. 710 works in a production environment with little annoyance. Learning and tinkering is one thing, trial by fire another. I want to tinker with a system I can sell. I would be drowning trying to squash bugs. I need development time. I am rusty, and a bit out of my element. I am a good at what I do... and somewhat task obsessed... and an insomniac. I offer value, but I know how I work. I need my feet wet. Bug running when I don't understand the processes behind the bugs would be the wrong way for me to learn. I need to develop first. If I can afford myself a couple of months at a time, I can do some damage here.


I think the picture viewer/slideshow idea is fantastic, and where I am going.

Thanks to all. Once work slows just a little, I'll be all in.

I guess I thought it was integrated into beta. I was looking for a project, and since Thom said he wanted us to do it to begin with, and should be pretty easy, I would try to make my own for 710 without cheating and looking at his. Banging my head against a thing I have no way of knowing will work seems less helpful in a learning capacity than a thing I know will work if I do it right. No Godzilla sized bugs etc.

So would it be equally easy to make a 0710 port for this? Or are there dependencies not satisfied by gutsy?


Cause it sounds fun.

I am new to linux/LMCE as are so many of us. I have, until recently, used linux like the speech function on Stewie's mac. "It installed... Yay". I compiled some java a long time ago with it... and then LMCE gave me motivation.


A great number of automation products provide 4-20mA feedback, with range sets that trigger different events. It is my goal to build such a thing for LMCE. This way I can implement modular projects which are not tied to specific control modules, and use cat5 for power, feedback and control.

I will begin here.
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=6263101&oext=1038A&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=6263101

And note my progress.

Flickr dead, (just disable and remove... do not reload) and the desktop is (more) stable. It hangs now and again for a few seconds, but I am pretty sure this is caused or contributed by a cycling attempt to download and install pluto-nvidia-video drivers. I will connect it again tomorrow... er... later today to the internet and see if that goes away (I am used to dev offline... linux likes the internet too much me thinks).

If someone could please tell me how to monitor what LMCE is doing in the background, and frankly opening a debugger... I would like to see if I can actually fix something rather than splice wikis together. Sorry for being so unfamiliar. I don't need my hand held for the ride... but a compass would be really helpful.

This doesn't really address your question, but your desired result.

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=4921.0

So I spent some money on some controllers. The gyration is still the sexiest way I have to navigate... but there is a contender.



It is about the length of a US dollar. It is the Logitech DiNovo Mini.

The round pad is a mouse or directional key depending on either a switch or using the function button. In 710, the mouse did not function natively, but after some modprobing I was able to get that working successfully. It operates like a touch pad, and is not nearly as fluid as the gyration... but functional. Moreover, when you adjusted the mouse acceleration in KDE it was reflected in LinuxMCE... this is no longer the case. Curious if anyone had any pointers (no pun intended) on mouse acceleration in LinuxMCE. Currently it takes about three full swipes to move from one end to the other at 1024x768.

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Logitech_Dinovo_Mini

No, really... thank you guys. I will be testing lots of hardware/configs.

My 710 is a thing of beauty. (-flickr of course)

I haven't actually punched out any code in a long time, but plan on re-familiarizing myself in short order.

I am looking forward to doing a lot of work with the GC-100 series of products for I/O. In a past life I used to code programmable logic controllers (PLC's) for autonomous function. The ultimate goal being to use lmce's event handling to interact with security hardware on a more intimate level. Features like a door bell waking up equipment and switching to camera x on the live orbiters... or zone motion sensing beginning an internet feed/backup to begin with (I am sure others have done this) and much more complicated tasks in the future. Making the GC get up and dance will probably be the area of my focus, and hopefully contribution. In another life I used to write portlets for an enterprise level portal which, in part, interpreted I/O for strange or antiquated systems for control by newer/more common systems. So if you have robotic automotive painting plant, built in '79, and want to control it with a wireless windows laptop, I'm your guy... or... I was... back when the internet made money.

I have a good bit of hardware available in the home automation/security side of things, and though I am pretty much crap in linux, I am a programmer at my core, just rusty. In a few weeks I will be able to afford a few weeks of sleepless testing. Till then, I will test here and there.

I really need to get to a bookstore...

I should preface this with the fact that I am not really sure the version I am on now as the lmce install came from a wiki which STATES that it is for 0810 beta, yet verbiage on the scripts is "latest_alpha". If someone could tell me how to check the version that would be keen.

So, by following the instructions on this wiki
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_beta
I was able to get most of the way through the main install, crashing at mythtv-backend download in a loop. ctrl c out, run the post installer. On first load after reboot I see that it is downloading myth backend. Nice. Maybe it will be ok. Brings me up, eventually, with everything skinning really nicely in A2. The flicker script which caused me nightmares on the 7.10 seemed to be behaving.

I go to KDE and there is a noticeable element missing. That little control panel which allowed you to do a myriad of useful things, not the least of which is get back to lmce, is not there. Everything in desktop is glitchy and slow. Turns out this is, at least in part, again due to the flickr script background... which is less easy to get rid of for me. It now just strobes white, causing the same irregularity. I will go at it again with inept fingers. On 7.10 I had to disable (which seems to do nothing) remove, and then reload before it would go away. It had to go away because if it ran in the background, when you added multiple layers through the menu or alerts, it would hang. Now it isn't there, but it is strobing and causing hangups. The desktop freezes every 5 seconds. Its pretty awesome.

I assume I just have a broken install and that there is some way to control lmce functions outside of the admin site within KDE. If anyone with working beta can tell me if there is some tool missing which allows you to reload routers, start orbiter, etc. Or if someone knows the .sh which would bring it up I'd be grateful.

At this point I am running an onboard and a pci NIC. Not going to bother with more until I can kill flickr.

This is my experience thus far with this board on beta 1 (maybe). I remain optimistic.

Also, if anyone could tell me how to kill lmce from console that would be swell.

So I had 710 running flawlessly on an asus M3n78-EM (nvidia GeForce 8300 using driver 185.18.36) with alpha 2 and all that jazz.

8.10... not so much. Opening the restricted drivers from taskbar icon typically locks the system... nvidia 170, 185 and 190 exist.

1.9 WILL bring KDE up... however linuxmce will not load X for wizard.

Briefly, this is what I have done.

FROM DVD:

Installed kubuntu with last option "Linuxmce install"
Checked for updates
Installed updates (NOT upgrade) 14 exist.
ran nvidia-xconfig

This boots to KDE in higher res using native detected 190.35 drivers. AVWizard will not load.

Clean install, same as before, but no nvidia-xconfig
AVWizard boots and loads MCE in plain UI.

Run nvidia-xconfig, and no dice. Revert.

Manually loaded 185 restricted driver. Will not start x.
Manually loaded 190. Will not start x.

Used envyng to auto-configure nvidia/x

Will load kde login manager but on login breaks and reboots login mgr.

I would love to make this hardware work in 8.10, but if I need to move on, I will take suggestions as well. Thanks in advance.