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So because of my location I cannot get "real" internet. My only options are a verizon mifi2200, and a tethered droid. All of the warnings to use eth0 are correct. You need to do that. So after a lot of renaming/disabling etc I realized faking it doesn't work so much. My only option to get the WWAN to eth0 was using windows ICS (internet connection sharing). This seemed to bring up a host of new problems, and this is how I dealt with them.

Asus m3n78-ev
phenom II... cant rememb clock
4GB ram ddr2 800
128 gb SSD for OS
LSI Megaraid 150-6 (cheap, slow, but effective. Shame I dont have a board running around with pcix) caps logical drive size to 2tb, I don't care what the firmware update says.
4x2tb in raid5 + HSS
HDHomerun

routers/switches
Done this install with many different types, at least 6, all w same problem.

OSs using ICS (not at same time)
xp pc
vista pc
7 pc

Here is the problem.
update typically stalls out downloading
dist-upgrade always stalls out downloading
lmce always stalls out downloading

These failures occur on files of any size... in different places. Now what it looks like to me is that IPv6 is querying the piss out of the router and after enough of that the connection is lost until broken and re-tried. The bugs related to this are supposed to have been fixed in karmic... and it seems to only be an issue for me on the ICS side of downloading.


Except the ttf-mscorefonts. That fails on any connection.


Now when these scripts are done, some of them do cleanup which removes things necessary for the install. The broken packages show as existing, and do not install further.


So, my advice, if you are forced to use this sort of setup, is firstly, during update/dist-upgrade,  to drop the 2nd nic from the router/switch/hub. Then save the output of any term sessions. Go back and find the broken dl links, apt-get remove them... --purge does not work out so clean, so avoid if possible. I don't know why. I am sure it is due to my ignorance in linux. Then apt-get install them again.

Once the AVWizard comes alive, this stalling out nonsense seems to fix itself, so plug your 2nd nic back in.


Mythtv components are AWESOME at committing suicide on dl. You have to watch them, in particular, very carefully.



ICS SEEMS to be happier on XP... but I could be making that up.

Lastly, wtg guys on beta 2. I want to be like you when I grow up.



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Developers / Re: Hulu desktop app for Linux released
« on: November 26, 2009, 10:38:07 pm »
My mysterious lady parts have stopped hurting. Thank you.


License cost isn't an issue with these clients.

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Users / Re: Android Orbiter
« on: November 26, 2009, 07:08:41 pm »
*edited out error

Side note... droid has a magnetomer. In verizons infinite wisdom, the only cases they had at my store had magnetic clasps, which will ruin the phone in this capacity. Do not get a case w a magnet.

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Developers / Re: Hulu desktop app for Linux released
« on: November 26, 2009, 06:17:35 pm »
Thom is my hero. That is why I am so touchy.

I don't want a fortune. I want people to have a great product that stops costing ME thousands of dollars. I just want to recoup some losses. My current working system:

4x2 TB HW RAID 5 = 5.7Tb (finally booting from lsi megaraid 150-6)
ASUS m3n78-ev
Phenom II 2.8 dual
8gb corsair 800
Big corsair psu

UI2 alpha on 7.10 audio over optical/HDMI

Zwave cheap modules for lighting/climate

Alarm system I built on a 16 zone seimens PLC w autodial from a trac phone and a big gc unit. Not finished but functional.

I have several clients ready to buy. Haven't sold any because it, and I, are not ready.


I have a small computer shop, and we just picked up a large national client... so my time is limited lately to develop for something we do not do. In a few months my nerds will be able to handle most of the duties for the big client.

I love lmce, and am humbled and awed by this community, and would like very much to be a part of it. I just have to feed the fam while I play. Money is less of an issue now. It is just time.

I have not given up on 8.10, it solves so many 7 issues. I am just too dumb to make it work well. But I'm getting smarter... I really just want to get the guys foaming at the mouth a stable system by christmas.

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Users / Re: Android Orbiter
« on: November 26, 2009, 05:41:51 pm »
I am in for 100.

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Developers / Re: Hulu desktop app for Linux released
« on: November 26, 2009, 05:06:06 am »
I don't fly, and I am always above board.


Not really sure what the attitude is about, but as it is shared by a few I have to assume I am just coming across as a douche.

I have a background in java portlet dev and designing/programming autonomous PLC based control systems. I have, to this point, only asked questions. My practical reasons for wanting to stick with 7 do not require anyones approval. I have been screwing around with lmce for about 6 months, almost entirely offline, and have done some interesting things, considering how green I am to linux and how long it has been since I punched code.

I am here because I want to help. I need to be in a position to do so first. IF I can reach that point serving a need... I guess I don't understand why someone would take issue with it. Trying not to get all butt hurt over your comment Thom, but its tough when I walk in holding such respect for you. You said you could write THIS in a day which was what caught my attention. Sounded like a good place to start.

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Developers / Re: Hulu desktop app for Linux released
« on: November 22, 2009, 05:39:46 am »
Instead of wasting time and energy implementing something for an old, out of date version that is already well underway in the new version, why not get yourself a copy of 0810 and learn by either squashing bugs or by implementing (or finishing) other new features?

First, because it is not a waste of my time. Until 810 becomes more stable I have to sell working products/feature enhancements to pay for the time and hardware to throw at development. 710 works in a production environment with little annoyance. Learning and tinkering is one thing, trial by fire another. I want to tinker with a system I can sell. I would be drowning trying to squash bugs. I need development time. I am rusty, and a bit out of my element. I am a good at what I do... and somewhat task obsessed... and an insomniac. I offer value, but I know how I work. I need my feet wet. Bug running when I don't understand the processes behind the bugs would be the wrong way for me to learn. I need to develop first. If I can afford myself a couple of months at a time, I can do some damage here.


I think the picture viewer/slideshow idea is fantastic, and where I am going.

Thanks to all. Once work slows just a little, I'll be all in.

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Developers / Re: Hulu desktop app for Linux released
« on: October 29, 2009, 02:48:14 pm »
I guess I thought it was integrated into beta. I was looking for a project, and since Thom said he wanted us to do it to begin with, and should be pretty easy, I would try to make my own for 710 without cheating and looking at his. Banging my head against a thing I have no way of knowing will work seems less helpful in a learning capacity than a thing I know will work if I do it right. No Godzilla sized bugs etc.

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Developers / Re: Hulu desktop app for Linux released
« on: October 28, 2009, 04:16:16 am »
So would it be equally easy to make a 0710 port for this? Or are there dependencies not satisfied by gutsy?


Cause it sounds fun.

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Developers / Project: Ranged I/O interpretation.
« on: October 26, 2009, 12:54:52 pm »
I am new to linux/LMCE as are so many of us. I have, until recently, used linux like the speech function on Stewie's mac. "It installed... Yay". I compiled some java a long time ago with it... and then LMCE gave me motivation.


A great number of automation products provide 4-20mA feedback, with range sets that trigger different events. It is my goal to build such a thing for LMCE. This way I can implement modular projects which are not tied to specific control modules, and use cat5 for power, feedback and control.

I will begin here.
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=6263101&oext=1038A&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=6263101

And note my progress.

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Installation issues / Re: Beta 0810 and nvidia drivers
« on: October 26, 2009, 12:14:28 pm »
Flickr dead, (just disable and remove... do not reload) and the desktop is (more) stable. It hangs now and again for a few seconds, but I am pretty sure this is caused or contributed by a cycling attempt to download and install pluto-nvidia-video drivers. I will connect it again tomorrow... er... later today to the internet and see if that goes away (I am used to dev offline... linux likes the internet too much me thinks).

If someone could please tell me how to monitor what LMCE is doing in the background, and frankly opening a debugger... I would like to see if I can actually fix something rather than splice wikis together. Sorry for being so unfamiliar. I don't need my hand held for the ride... but a compass would be really helpful.

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Installation issues / Re: 0810 - MD HDD Install?
« on: October 26, 2009, 11:00:30 am »
This doesn't really address your question, but your desired result.

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=4921.0

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Users / 0810 beta mouse control
« on: October 26, 2009, 10:27:44 am »
So I spent some money on some controllers. The gyration is still the sexiest way I have to navigate... but there is a contender.



It is about the length of a US dollar. It is the Logitech DiNovo Mini.

The round pad is a mouse or directional key depending on either a switch or using the function button. In 710, the mouse did not function natively, but after some modprobing I was able to get that working successfully. It operates like a touch pad, and is not nearly as fluid as the gyration... but functional. Moreover, when you adjusted the mouse acceleration in KDE it was reflected in LinuxMCE... this is no longer the case. Curious if anyone had any pointers (no pun intended) on mouse acceleration in LinuxMCE. Currently it takes about three full swipes to move from one end to the other at 1024x768.

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Logitech_Dinovo_Mini

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Installation issues / Re: Beta 0810 and nvidia drivers
« on: October 26, 2009, 09:52:36 am »
No, really... thank you guys. I will be testing lots of hardware/configs.

My 710 is a thing of beauty. (-flickr of course)

I haven't actually punched out any code in a long time, but plan on re-familiarizing myself in short order.

I am looking forward to doing a lot of work with the GC-100 series of products for I/O. In a past life I used to code programmable logic controllers (PLC's) for autonomous function. The ultimate goal being to use lmce's event handling to interact with security hardware on a more intimate level. Features like a door bell waking up equipment and switching to camera x on the live orbiters... or zone motion sensing beginning an internet feed/backup to begin with (I am sure others have done this) and much more complicated tasks in the future. Making the GC get up and dance will probably be the area of my focus, and hopefully contribution. In another life I used to write portlets for an enterprise level portal which, in part, interpreted I/O for strange or antiquated systems for control by newer/more common systems. So if you have robotic automotive painting plant, built in '79, and want to control it with a wireless windows laptop, I'm your guy... or... I was... back when the internet made money.

I have a good bit of hardware available in the home automation/security side of things, and though I am pretty much crap in linux, I am a programmer at my core, just rusty. In a few weeks I will be able to afford a few weeks of sleepless testing. Till then, I will test here and there.

I really need to get to a bookstore...


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Installation issues / Re: Beta 0810 and nvidia drivers
« on: October 26, 2009, 04:11:13 am »
I should preface this with the fact that I am not really sure the version I am on now as the lmce install came from a wiki which STATES that it is for 0810 beta, yet verbiage on the scripts is "latest_alpha". If someone could tell me how to check the version that would be keen.

So, by following the instructions on this wiki
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_beta
I was able to get most of the way through the main install, crashing at mythtv-backend download in a loop. ctrl c out, run the post installer. On first load after reboot I see that it is downloading myth backend. Nice. Maybe it will be ok. Brings me up, eventually, with everything skinning really nicely in A2. The flicker script which caused me nightmares on the 7.10 seemed to be behaving.

I go to KDE and there is a noticeable element missing. That little control panel which allowed you to do a myriad of useful things, not the least of which is get back to lmce, is not there. Everything in desktop is glitchy and slow. Turns out this is, at least in part, again due to the flickr script background... which is less easy to get rid of for me. It now just strobes white, causing the same irregularity. I will go at it again with inept fingers. On 7.10 I had to disable (which seems to do nothing) remove, and then reload before it would go away. It had to go away because if it ran in the background, when you added multiple layers through the menu or alerts, it would hang. Now it isn't there, but it is strobing and causing hangups. The desktop freezes every 5 seconds. Its pretty awesome.

I assume I just have a broken install and that there is some way to control lmce functions outside of the admin site within KDE. If anyone with working beta can tell me if there is some tool missing which allows you to reload routers, start orbiter, etc. Or if someone knows the .sh which would bring it up I'd be grateful.

At this point I am running an onboard and a pci NIC. Not going to bother with more until I can kill flickr.

This is my experience thus far with this board on beta 1 (maybe). I remain optimistic.

Also, if anyone could tell me how to kill lmce from console that would be swell.

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