With the discussion of new features (fe monitoring), i was wondering how we could be able to show something.
You can start uploading printscreens and so, but i believe this isn't the way.

Is their a way to give somebody access with only read privilege?
This way, others can have a look without touching your server.

Or is it an option to install an online demo server?

Or are there other ways?

I think we need to see this larger then only the server. I agree that if you just want a cpu graph, you can do it manually with hand-written scripts/files/...
But since linuxmce provides a lot more (dhpc, dns, proxy, firewalling...), we can take this up a higher level. If you put in tools like cacti, you can start monitoring your whole network/house. Think about all computers, switches, routers, power-meters... The key-element here is the user-friendly stuff. People need to be able to do it themselves, simple. With this, you gain that more people will use it, less people will ask you questions...
And it must be flexible...

I'll see to create some extra templates. This way, we can monitor a lot more of the server. Think about the statistics of the firewall, dns-request, dhcp-assigment, syslogging of the server/ the network...

I'm of the opinion that talk only goes so far.

Build a prototype, then figure out what you need to make that prototype into production.

Working models are currency.

-Thom

My cacti is already running, as a standalone version next to linuxmce. To start, i only monitor some things of the server (processes, diskspace, load & memory), and my switch (bandwidth of all interfaces, cpu)
So not only talking!  

My major question (=problem) is how must i present it? Some printscreens?
Like i wrote before, i'm not a developper/programmer, just a network engineer. So i don't have any clue how i can help you guys to put this into the global project.
I can start trying to change the files like i want (fe change the webmin pages), but with the next release, all my changes can/will be lost. No? And i'm not sure how the dhcp stuff can be added in here. Since with any monitoring tool, you'll need to know the exact ip. Therefor i always use mac-based dhcp...

The installation procedure can already be found on my blog:
http://www.oniria.be/pri/index.php/linux/233-linuxmce#mon

I need to add the plugin module, that something for next week.
Then i can start adding all my devices in my network (power meter, workstations, router, NAS, wireless access point, phones...).

Let me know what i can else do to help...

Rather than running cacti, I put forward using plain old mrtg as impementing scripts will be easier and lighter, as well as making changes/updates;

I don't agree, cacti is installed in about 2 minutes. Without the need of knowledge for any scripts, and cacti does a lot more then mrtg (services, tresholds, syslogging, weathermaps...). The user interface is so great, that you don't want anything else. When i explain my colleagues/customer cacti in 15 minutes, they're off with it, without any linux knowledge! And resources? If you start with 'own script's, at the end, your resources will be must higher then with cacti.

For me? When you want that people use 'your' system, you need to give them something that's simple.
Once they need to start changing config files, they are gone/lost. That's the only reason why windows gains above linux for the normal computer user.  


But of course,everybody his choice.

[Example 1]

Or maybe just a small image on the top right of each document?
This way, the message is there, but doesn't interfere with the article itself.


Something like this? The icons could/should be a bit little smaller:

Example 1

Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry.
Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy text ever since the
1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and scrambled it to
make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five centuries, but
also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining essentially unchanged.
It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of Letraset sheets
containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with desktop publishing
software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem Ipsum.





Example 3

Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry.
Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy text ever since the
1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and scrambled it to
make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five centuries, but
also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining essentially unchanged.
It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of Letraset sheets
containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with desktop publishing
software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem Ipsum.




Example 3

Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry.
Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy text ever since the
1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and scrambled it to
make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five centuries, but
also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining essentially unchanged.
It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of Letraset sheets
containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with desktop publishing
software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem Ipsum.





ps i wasn't able to get the image on the wiki page, therefor i do i here...

But it seems that i'll need to use floorplans?

No way to put this in the default orbiter screen?
If so, pitty about the lost space on the first row ... 

If you want, I can help.

I believe strongly in a dummy installations manual. And since I'm a dummy today...
Blocks (media, automation, server, security...) and how to configure the simple things (adding rooms, lights, dhcp, orbiter, scenario's...).
More in depth technical stuff belong in the forum, maybe with some shortcuts from the wiki to interesting topics?

• Maybe it's best to assign some persons who reads/controls the articles?
  I'm active in a non-profit association, and there we've got 5 people who read our articles on language, structure...
  Since English isn't my native language, i know some thing can be written better.   
  
  
• And maybe some guys who follow up the layout?
  Not the structure, but keep the same titles, style of graphs...

ps My personal documentation of linuxmce: http://www.oniria.be/pri/index.php/linux/233-linuxmce

Hey,

I noticed that when you put 2 or more lights in 1 room, you control them all at once with an orbiter.

Is there a way to split them?
So that you'll have several buttons on your top row with the different light switches?

I'm using now the iphone4 resolution. Works great with my HTC Desire Z.

I know, it's not ethic to use iphone and android together, but hey, it works...

[Basic]

Hey,

I've tried all (web)orbiters skin for my Android.
Is it possible that not all skins change anything. Or at least not at first sight? Or has it something to do with the weborbiter?
I've choosed another skin, did a full regen of that orbiter and a reload. Afterwards i've opened it with http://corius/lmce-admin/weborbiter.php to take an easy printscreen.

Hereby a printscreen of all different skins.
Maybe this is interesting to put on a wiki page as well? This way people have an overview of the different skins.


Basic


PhoneBasic


Slate


SmallUI


TitaniumApple


TitaniumBlue


Ulta


ps if this is right, maybe the other skins should be cleaned, or renamed? To avoid confusion...

Great.
What can/must we do in order to get this up and running?

I see 4 major parts:

• Installation of the soft (cacti + additional plugins, templates...)
  This should be the easiest part
  
  
• Configuration of 'standard' stuff (fe monitoring services, bandwidth, disk usuage...)
  Of course, all configs (=hardware) are different. So it will be more a documentation part?
  
  
• Link with linuxmce
  Webpages links, link with databases (fe user logins?)
  
  
• Packaging
  Don't have a clue how to do this.
  
  

you should also be able to use the Android native app

Do you mean the Android Touch Orbiter?
From http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/AndroidTouchOrbiter ?

Is working...


I just need to play around with the screen resolutions/skins so see what best fits me, and my DesireZ.
But... Rome wasn't build on one day. 

No problem to help, but to be honest, i'm a network guy with some linux experience and web knowledge.
So don't expect real programming of me. I would like to able to do it. But you can't do everything in your life.

If you can point me on the way how/what/where i should do, i can have a look.

[Usuage]

Maybe a new feature in linuxmce is a monitoring tool?

I don't know how (if?) you guys check today the bandwidth, disk space, services...?
Personally i use cacti a lot, i'm a network engineer, therefor i use it very much. It's easy to install (through apt-get install cacti), easy to maintain (webinterface / snmp based), nice to see (cool graphs, up/down status).

This way, we could easily manage/troubleshoot/alert some extra stuff:

• Usuage: network bandwidth, internet load, memory use, disk space...
• Status: orbiter ports listening, mysql running, domotica link there, phones up...
• Log: very nice syslog server in there...
• Alerting: send mails/sms when something happens, run scripts...
• ...

And of course, when you've got other devices in your network that are snmp capable (aren't they all these days?), you can add them as well.
I'm thinking about a switch, a modem/router, normal pc's, ip phones, home automation links, power meters, water meters...


One of these days, i'll install cacti on my linuxmce server (I first need to take of backup of it  ).
And after a couple of day, i'll see to extract some graphs as an example.

I've tried, but this didn't solve the problem. The folder 'bit' stays empty.
So i think that other things were wrong as well.


So i toke the decision of formatting the machine. And installing the 8.10-RC1.
And ....... now it's working! I can control my lights with my android phone!
Somewhere along the way, the update wasn't done correctly apparently.

Nice.

Now adding all my lights, checking out the different skins....