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Installation issues / Re: [Solved] Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 30, 2011, 08:01:40 am »
you should also be able to use the Android native app

Do you mean the Android Touch Orbiter?
From ?

Is working... ;)

I just need to play around with the screen resolutions/skins so see what best fits me, and my DesireZ.
But... Rome wasn't build on one day.  :-X

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Monitoring
« on: August 29, 2011, 05:52:44 pm »
No problem to help, but to be honest, i'm a network guy with some linux experience and web knowledge.
So don't expect real programming of me. I would like to able to do it. But you can't do everything in your life. ;)

If you can point me on the way how/what/where i should do, i can have a look.

Feature requests & roadmap / Monitoring
« on: August 29, 2011, 08:19:46 am »
Maybe a new feature in linuxmce is a monitoring tool?

I don't know how (if?) you guys check today the bandwidth, disk space, services...?
Personally i use cacti a lot, i'm a network engineer, therefor i use it very much. It's easy to install (through apt-get install cacti), easy to maintain (webinterface / snmp based), nice to see (cool graphs, up/down status).

This way, we could easily manage/troubleshoot/alert some extra stuff:
  • Usuage: network bandwidth, internet load, memory use, disk space...
  • Status: orbiter ports listening, mysql running, domotica link there, phones up...
  • Log: very nice syslog server in there...
  • Alerting: send mails/sms when something happens, run scripts...
  • ...

And of course, when you've got other devices in your network that are snmp capable (aren't they all these days?), you can add them as well.
I'm thinking about a switch, a modem/router, normal pc's, ip phones, home automation links, power meters, water meters...

One of these days, i'll install cacti on my linuxmce server (I first need to take of backup of it  ::) ).
And after a couple of day, i'll see to extract some graphs as an example.

Installation issues / Re: Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 29, 2011, 08:01:44 am »
I've tried, but this didn't solve the problem. The folder 'bit' stays empty.
So i think that other things were wrong as well.

So i toke the decision of formatting the machine. And installing the 8.10-RC1.
And ....... now it's working! I can control my lights with my android phone!
Somewhere along the way, the update wasn't done correctly apparently.


Now adding all my lights, checking out the different skins....

Installation issues / Re: Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 28, 2011, 02:48:22 pm »
For the moment it's : linuxMCE 8.10_24.0.12. An upgrade of an earlier version, because i had problems to install directly the latest version (boot dvd issues).

And you're right, i was missing the folder 'bits'.
So i've just created it, but after a full regen, it stays empty. Normal?

Installation issues / Re: Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 28, 2011, 10:56:55 am »

When i install the weborbiter, it should be reachable by a normal webbrowser as well, correct?

When i go to http://<ip-address>/lmce-admin/weborbiter.php, i receive a nice login screen. And i can select the 'child orbiter'.
Once i've done that, i've got a page with only some buttons (home-back-refresh-exit-logout) on. But i can't do anything else. When i do for example a refresh, it keeps on 'loading'...

I've also noticed, that when i do a quick reload, the core orbiter seems to crash.
Sometimes it's just a black screen, sometimes it stays on 'reconnecting to DCE router as requested'.
The remote adminpage is working correctly, but on the core screen, i can't do anything more.
When i do a hard reboot of the core, it comes back fine....

Installation issues / Re: Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 28, 2011, 08:50:41 am »
When i run 'netstat -an | grep 3461', this is done on the server itself.

So if the server isn't listening on this port, i assume that no other device will be capable of connection to this port. Or am i missing something?

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Power outlets
« on: August 26, 2011, 12:14:58 pm »
I am open for suggestions and appropriate icons

Let's start with the suggestions, and then the icons... ;)

I've started a new topic, since i see it bigger then just power outlets.  :-[,11902.0.html

Feature requests & roadmap / New Home Automation groups
« on: August 26, 2011, 12:13:27 pm »

Today, almost all outputs relays (lights, power sockets...) must be in 'lights'.
Not so very clear if you're really interested in the home automation part.   ???
Posde suggested me to do some suggestion (topic power outlet) about possible groups. So with this topic, i want to start the subject if more groups are needed, and what the best groups would be.

These are different blocks I’m thinking about. These are in my eyes different things to make your home intelligent. Most are of course just in/output relays. But I personally think it would be clearer for everyone that you can arrange your devices (relays) in these groups.

Of course, I’ll be missing some things. So feel free to add/regroup/rename/… some of them.
Once the groups are defined, I’ll see if I can put some icons behind it.

  • Inputs
    Push button, on/off switch, sensor static (shock, motion, water, fire…), sensor dynamic (light, waterlevel, temperature…)

  • Lighting
    Chandeliers, ceiling fixtures, outdoor lights, wall sconces, floor lights, table lamps

  • HVAC
    Heating, ventilation, air conditioning

  • Power outlet
    Stand-alone, groups

  • Entry points
    Door, window, gate, garage door

  • Window covering
    Blind, solar shades, drapery

  • Varia
    Water tap, Gas valve

Thanks for your feedback!

Installation issues / Re: Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 25, 2011, 09:06:19 pm »
I was able to do a full regen with the extra 'reload' at step 7.

But still no port 3461 that is listening.

To be safe, i've tried it also with a complete remove of the orbiter, and did the whole procedure again. Now with the extra reload in between. But it gives me te same result.

When i check with netstat, no port is listening on 3461.
And of course, my android phone has the result 'connection failed'. What seems normal.

Any thoughts what i could check further?


Installation issues / Re: Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 25, 2011, 11:12:42 am »
I'll give it a try this evening.

Just to be verify, can i pick in with the reload and go on.
Or is it best to delete proxy orbiter, reload/regen and recreate it all?

Installation issues / Re: Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 25, 2011, 09:54:11 am »

The child device is in there. And in that, i see the listen port 3461 (already tried with 3462).

I'm checking the port on a terminal in the server with the command:
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netstat -an | grep 3461
Normally you should retrieve a line that says: LISTENING 3461
Mine came back empty. And since the server isn't listening...

Installation issues / [Solved] Generic Proxy Orbiter
« on: August 24, 2011, 07:40:59 pm »

I'm trying to get my android phone to be connected with linuxMCE.
I follow the procedure as seen on

I'm blocked on point 7.
Click the button 'Pick Device Template'. The Add Child Device Window will close, and the Generic Web Device will be added to the Core, as the updated Device Tree will show.
When i do a full regen of the specific orbiter, i got the space for the status. But no status. It seems to stop without doing anything.
A full regen of the default orbiter (fe OnScreen orbiter) is working correctly.

A bit strange to me, point 1-8 went very fast.
A new Generic Proxy Orbiter will also be created automatically. Watch the Orbiter generation process on the Orbiters page: Wizard-->Devices-->Orbiters.
When i look there, nothing special to see, a standard roaming orbiters is created.

When i check the server, nothing is listening on port 3461.
So i'm a bit stuck now...

Thanks for any hints, tips or tricks...

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Power outlets
« on: August 24, 2011, 03:38:21 pm »
OK, i'll put it in there then....

Maybe for a future release this name (lighting section) can/should change?
Since home automation doesn't end with the lights (any more)...  ::)

Users / Re: OMG, why do you make this so difficult?
« on: August 24, 2011, 01:43:20 pm »

I am going to have a think about how to reorganise the main page from the point of view of the new user, it could be a bit more logical I guess.

Hey Matt,

You've answered this to soon. I wanted to suggest just the same thing. Let us rebuild the whole manual stuff.
A nice startpage with different sectors (global idea, hardware, installation guides, electrical part, telephone part, media...).

The problem today i see is:
- some people speak computer languages
- some people are using for years linuxmce
- some people only want the media part, others the domotica
- nobody (this is for all IT people!) wants to write manuals
- ...
LinuxMCE is to big to explain on one A4 page (Why doesn't this sound the same on a computer?).

I've had (got) the same frustrations like many of us, new users.
I installed it several time (1 year ago i gave up). And i came back. Because i believe in the general idea of linuxmce. Mainly because today, you don't have a proper (cheap) domoticaserver. One of the reasons that the house automation doesn't come up?
Now, it's very hard to see the red line between it all.
For the moment, I finally managed to install the software on my server. I finally managed to get a light on/off. Next is an orbiter. After that some ip phones... Still need to figure out how i can add my power outlets, my playstation, how to use the orbiters...
And the hours i put in it, just to get a light bulb on... It's a bit...

A long the way, i try to write it down in steps that i can remember. Of course, this is again for me. Because i use it as such.

I think we should create a nice folder structure, with in there manuals, forum topics, the wiki pages, the faqs...
Let me know if we want to start a work group or something for this! I'm in....

ps i've got the same feeling with the forum. I think that this can also use some more detailed subgroups... :-X
Maybe a subgroup for discussions about documentation? ;)

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