Sorry to anyway who i had confused with this post.
I just wanted to make a differnet place for "new beginenr" users, to easily post there opinions, videos or whatever.

1. If you registered at the old lmce site, you can but DO NOT have to register again.
2. Like TSCHAK says, the website should be a Entry Point for Beginners, it will provide a way of going deeper if someone wants to
3. IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT CURRENTLY for anything, maybe just a add-on
4. you logins for wiki and forum are still valid
5. in the near future, there will be a Single Sign On, for all three places and content can and will be accessible from all point and aggregated under one roof.

Sorry again for causing confusion.

M.

have you ever ask yourself, why you registered on http://www.linuxmce.org?

Now you have the ability to create your own blog/content on linuxmce.org.
You can take this place as a central location to tell the community about your experience about LMCE, show pictures or link to youtube videos.
Have made a tutorial? don't hesitate to post it in the user section of linuxmce and let other participate in it.

Just login to http://www.linumxce.com and go to http://www.linuxmce.com/index.php/talk TALK section.
See you soon.

yeah, good idea, but lets focus on the basics first, and keep that in mind.

can you try to run

/usr/pluto/bin/startup-script.sh

and after that start md?

can you try to run make a quick reload of the router and then boot the md again?
can you try to boot the server again and then start the md?

Key word: "eventually".  Until then - need a configuration guide.    2) how to make cool things happen without asking lots of questions

Mostly the problem, that things are not working out of the box is, that users are thinking "to-much".
You know, it like the apprentice in a company. Nobody know s.th. about networking. But he already made a connection between 2 computers at home. So he thinks the he is the master of the universe regarding networking and takes the job in the company as a administrator.
Those guys mostly ruin the network :-) hacking here a little bit, hacking there a little bit.

How often someone is coming into irc and is asking about networking in LMCE (my network is not working) - why? because he didn't let lmce do the job.

First rule always should be LET LMCE DO THE JOB.
That should be in front of EVERY tutorial.

Key word: "eventually".  Until then - need a configuration guide.  Hell, even I could benefit from a configuration guide for the lighting and telecomm stuff...

It addresses 2 main problems: 1) what hardware to buy for newcomers  2) how to make cool things happen without asking lots of questions

The hardware part will be a tough one.
As i described before. LMCE works with "mostly all" hardware. In theory.
In pratice, you will have to choose components from the wiki, which are 100% tested and working.

Some month ago, i was thinking of having some kind of "compatible with" Program. Maybe we should again think of that.

But back to the hardware part. How can we suggest hardware to the user, which is a) really working b) is more or less available round the globe and c) is still buyable?
So it means we have to update it regular.

So my idea is, that we have to set up a "logo programm" for hardware. i will take this part.
Until that user have to be redirected to our wiki, with the compatible hardware.

thanks cadman97.

Guys, we have to fill up the sections "more Info" on the website ASAP.
The idea behind is very clear.

The whole website should be Top-Down. It should be readable by beginners/Users the same way than for developers/More advanced Users.
So i would suggest following strategy.

First fill up the places like
http://www.linuxmce.com/index.php/features/telecom with easy to understand description. only some sentences. surely more than it has now.
Then we will add a link to "more advanced infos", where we can claim how strong and advanced the system can be. Here we can say some things about used technologies, protocols and supported hardware.

What i mean is that every section has a beginner and a profi/indeep section.

dlewis, you ask about helping in this matter, i would like to setup a schedule. when do you think the 5 sections will be filled with content?!

Thanks for your help

My biggest concern is quickly directing people towards "Getting Started" type information - the site does not do that now.

I'd suggest adding links to the FAQ and installation guide from the Downloads page at a minimum - right now, users are directed to the Mirrors page, which is a few steps too far past the learning phase.

All of you are right here. But it is the same old song.Everybody knows what changes need to be done, but nearly nobody is starting with it.
To make it short, get back to the desk and make a top-down getting started list and u will see, that it is not that easy, than just putting some links on the website.
Sure i know, that all of the information is somewhere in the wiki. You all know that. But what is really essential....Thoms words are so right. Try to see it from a users point of view - from a DAU Point of view.

Maybe start by logging the questions in irc - mostly starting with "which hardware do i need". And even linuxmce runs with most of available hardware, the learning curve will much easy and faster if you have the RIGHT hardware.
(Believe me from the technical point of view - i did the technical product management / system administration for a long time but until i had my first highlights with lmce 7.04/7.10 it took a frustrating while.  and consider, many users coming to the website are not developers, not Linux specialists, but mostly USERS.)
So what should we do? Giving user just a link to "Compatible hardware", then he is again on the wiki, which sometimes is very "strange" for newbies.

What i like to say is, that this isn't a easy task. i don't believe that just putting some links on the website will help much (surely we can make a suggestion that we are just updating the section and in the meantime user has to go to the wiki)

Finally, beside the question "Who can change the website, may i", the more essential questions are:

1. To whom shall the website be addressed?
2. Is it a marketing tool or is is a "developer-catcher-tool". Or both?
3. How can we make some marketing on the web / not on the website - to drive more developers to our site.
4. What about marketing outside the web.
5 How do we write a "User Guide" which is really top down for a) Users and b) for Developers who are starting

Sorry, but just my two pence...

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Ok, well we can just do a thread here for edits I suppose. Here are my suggestions.

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Gaming:

Remember the good old 80's? Remember the arcade games and long nights with your buddies? Where have all the console games gone? Just sit down in front of your Media Director, have it call your buddies, and start playing all the old stuff in any room you like....just like in the good old 80's.

Made the changes.

Here's what i've seen:

• Logins do not function after registration
• SVN explanation is blank http://www.linuxmce.org/index.php/developer/svn

Murdock,

the logins are func. but currently there is no bridge between forum, wiki and website. that will be corrected in the future, as we need a update of the forum software.
and i am currently working on an more interactive part of the site, where users can post their own content. just stay tuned

Please can someone look through the site, and correct all the grammar things. as i am not a native, please send corrections to me and i will update asap.

thx
murcel

for amazon tagging, there is a fix in the trac
http://trac.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/307

no i didn't......

pigdog, of course it is "use linuxmce structure".
But anyway, i think nobody knows, so i have to dig into it and will give you solutions as soon as i found it.