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46  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Doorbell... Help Please on: September 06, 2012, 01:21:54 am
I thought this would be a simple addition and hopefully it is but I am not getting any closer to coming up with a supported solution despite my best efforts.  Some of my issues may be due to "doorbell" having an alternate meaning when you add the computer/PC/automation search terms with it.  Here is specifically what I am trying to to.


My core knows when someone presses a doorbell.



Once that works I can do custom events, trigger phone calls, alerts, pausing media, and all the fun stuff.  I am dumbfounded though in how to get this connection.  Here is what I have looked at doing and how I am currently approaching it.


Z-Wave:  No 'buttons' or button modules exist.  I could probably crack apart a door/window alarm to go off if the doorbell button separated the sensor units enough.  I could modify a scene controller wall switch to send a state change but as described in other posts, events were not intended to be fired by direct actions.  Soldering something onto a Z-Wave sensor really kills the PNP appeal of that technology anyways.

X-10:  Similar to the Z-Wave problems, in that no simple contact seems to exist.  I could justify spending the money on a box of used x-10 parts and probably come up with some way to get a signal back to my core but by the time I add a PC interface device to receive that signal and run isolated power lines to the doorbell (and then step down the current somehow to not have a 110V surprise for guests in the rain)  I would have already spent more on a cm15a and other parts by this point to equal a controller for another tech.

Expensive intercom as simple doorbell:  There seems to be some Insteon functions that allow for button pressing firing events but after 25 pages of the Smarthome website I only found units that talk to other intercoms and not back to a PC to keep it informed.

Other less often mentioned technologies: zigbee, KNX, proprietary systems, I even considered buying a security panel with ethernet outputs and wire a "panic" button which would act as a method of communicating something happened.  1-Wire to be honest is for hobbyists well above my abilities with bus addresses and willingness to solder onto my core.  I actually attempted a simple switch on a test machine via serial, parallel and usb but don't think I had the proper "pull up voltage" pins wired...  Each guide I found recommended a different port and some called out completely different pins.  I even considered cracking apart "the clapper" to respond to a standard doorbell chimes, then have the clapper turn on a light which would shine onto a photo intensity sensor...  There has to be an easier way.


I currently have a stand alone pc that I am purposing to act as a doorbell interface.  Basically I cracked apart a standard keyboard and if you are familiar with how they work you understand that each key is tied to a controller in the normally open position.  Pressing a key closes the circuit that the controller interprets as a key (this can be edited with a keymapper to be any input you wish)  So I have a small pc running Puppy Linux and a wire coming out of the keyboard where the Home key would be and out to a switch that I will after testing move to the doorbell.  I need to learn GSD and socket communications better before I can get "Home key" = lmce receiving an input via TCP that a button has been pressed.

 
I have some interested from the roommate to finance a doorbell solution,  together we can probably invest as much as $300 into this.  If this was one of your doorbells, how would you go about connecting it?


Hey there,

The route I opted to go for is buying a GC-100. I simply connect my standard doorbell to one of the contact closure sensor inputs. Then I connect one of it's relay outputs to a simple circuit I built which rings a standard door chime. The GC-100 is plug and play with LMCE, but there's a bit of manual config needed in webadmin.

It works well for the most part. The one problem I've found is that the device seems to have issues when there is rapid on/off input or output. For example, when I ring my doorbell rapidly and repeatedly, the thing freezes and needs a reboot. Still looking into this however.

47  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: qOrbiter Skin - first design on: September 05, 2012, 05:26:02 pm
What a Bummer! ...
:-(

ok ... i'll provide a new Navigation fot that screen asap: http://dokuwiki.knallimall.org/_detail/de/lmce-ipad-home-submenu.png?id=de%3Alinuxmce_qorbiter

What gestures are possible in qOrbiter?

Indeed... longpress?
48  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Z-Wave Compatible Yale Locks on: September 03, 2012, 11:27:06 pm
Does anyone know how much it is? i would donate...

From the link posde posted:

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Vesternet are accepting pre-orders now for the £197 system.
49  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Z-Wave Compatible Yale Locks on: September 03, 2012, 06:41:39 pm
I'd contribute $50 towards getting this for Hari, with the understanding that NA devices will get support.
50  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Continued discussion of IP Cameras, motion wrapper and weborbiter on: August 29, 2012, 08:49:44 pm
LinuxMCE only uses still images from cameras. There is no support for video streams. One of the goals of the Advanced IP Camera was to look into also supporting video streams, but this requires changes to the orbiters too. Maybe the qOrbiter will come to the rescue on this.

gogoj4's already got media playback happening on qOrbiter, so I would think he's already much of the way towards streaming IP camera video.
51  LinuxMCE / Marketplace / Re: In-wall orbiter (Example Photo) on: August 27, 2012, 10:02:02 pm
Sweet idea, I'm interested. What orbiter devices are recommended for this type of install?  Android wouldn't work well since it can't do touch-to-wake and I haven't seen any devices with front-mounted hardware power buttons.
52  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Conditional Lighting Scenarios, on: August 14, 2012, 01:45:57 pm
Please do tell! I'd like to try and see if I can get it to work.

Also, I thought I had an event setup, to do something based on time and security house code, but it isn't working like I thought. (it's nothing to do with an orbiter triggering an event, but everything to do with how the respond to event feature works, which is what this thread is really about)

Has anyone gotten an event to fire based on both Time and Security House mode? Specifically, my wife and I always forget to turn off the security system in the morning. I’d like to trigger and event that at 7:30 if security system is “At Home Secure” disarm system. I obviously don’t want it to do this if it’s “Armed” or “Extended Away”. I’ve tried and retried testing different options for hours it doesn’t work. I told it that Specific Time = 07:30 and House Code = 2, but it seems to ignore house code and simply do whatever I program at 7:30 regardless of house code.

Thanks,

I tried to get something like this to work a while back, and don't recall if I ever succeeded (I've been without LMCE for a bit while doing renos) .Basically my approach was to trigger a bash script which:

1)uses messagesend to query the device status / house mode / etc
2)performs whatever logic necessary
3)uses messagesend to send the appropriate commands to the appropriate devices given 1 and 2.

The issue was with #1, as it wasn't returning live data properly. Again, I can't remember how or if I got around it.

The thread, for reference, is here:

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php/topic,12456.0.html
53  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: New Z-Wave User looking for recommendations on: August 13, 2012, 03:47:44 pm
<cringes at nail through foot>

The dimmer lamp modules I have are nice and quiet as I mentioned. My biggest complaint with them is the slew rate (ramp-up time). The rate is slow enough that for many cases I find myself thinking that quick (and possibly noisy) on/off relays would be better than slow quiet dimming capability.
54  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: New Z-Wave User looking for recommendations on: August 13, 2012, 05:51:40 am
By wall plug, do you mean duplex outlets or lamp plug?

I've been using Evolve lamp plugs here in Canada, and they make no audible noise whatsoever. Not cheap, but you can spend lots more.

http://www.aartech.ca/ldm-15-evolve-zwave-plug-in-lamp-module.html
55  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Introduction on: August 03, 2012, 04:01:55 pm
Hopefully on his cell phone Tongue

Welcome aboard.

Hey, at least it's legible.

Bad-um-ching!
56  LinuxMCE / Installation issues / Re: Sip.conf location on: July 20, 2012, 12:31:00 am
Now stored in asterisk database (mysql). I believe there's a bug with resolving host names at the moment.
57  LinuxMCE / Developers / Re: QOrbiter: Updated on: July 18, 2012, 03:26:13 pm
Nightly apk fixed for me too.

As discussed with Foxi earlier today, resolving doesn't work, so you need to use your core's IP address not hostname (for the time being)
58  LinuxMCE / Developers / Re: QOrbiter: Updated on: July 18, 2012, 05:16:36 am
As am I. The error appears right after the splash, before it gets to the loading status messages. I had working qorbiters a while back but have since:

a) reinstalled my CORE
b) updated qorbiter version from Google play (dated June 17th, 2012)

I'm getting the same error described on both my HTC one x and Transformer Prime tablet. I I've tried completely uninstalling qorbiter and ministro, and reinstalling. No luck.

59  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Cloud intergration on: July 07, 2012, 05:55:00 am
Off-topic, but I just want to know if the censored word in your image is "porn" or "sperm"
60  LinuxMCE / Users / Re: Newbie camera question on: July 06, 2012, 02:21:53 pm
... once I have someone else back in the house who I can commission to go and perform in front of the camera. The dogs have not been trained to that degree.


You might ask bongowongo... I gather he's fairly experienced with this :p
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