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Users / Method for selecting new features for implementation
« on: August 21, 2009, 05:11:03 am »
I think we need something more sophisticated than the web forum polls to determine feature priorities. Supposing we used a matrix like in the attached?

0 means will not contribute to
1 means will contribute, but least wanted.
10 means will contribute, and most wanted.
A number can be used only once per voter.

Users / Re: Who is currently using the Fiire gyro remote?? Please vote
« on: August 16, 2009, 05:24:20 pm »
I have one, but find it cumbersome to use due to having a small TV, even with sensitivity turned way down. I much prefer the windows orbiter on my labtop.

One thing I miss when using the windows orbiter is continuous absolute-control of volume and lighting that is made possible by the Fiire. Would be great if I could have the best of both worlds.

Users / Re: Media browser and title attribute problem
« on: August 14, 2009, 09:56:39 pm »
Isn't there a wiki guide for tagging conventions that explains this? If not, should we have one?

Users / Re: Call for donations for features.
« on: August 14, 2009, 08:26:28 pm »
I'd contribute to that too Ray_N.

Users / Re: Call for donations for features.
« on: August 14, 2009, 04:54:07 am »
how much do you spend on a night out?

What's this thing called a "night out"? Come on, you're talking to a Linux crowd here :P

I'm not sure I'd hire anyone to do a full install, but if Thom is willing to do support work for money I might very well use him. As it stands he is too busy to give a full detailed answer in the IRC channel, but if one could get his undivided attention for a reasonable hourly fee I'd probably make use of that now and then.

Users / Re: Call for donations for features.
« on: August 13, 2009, 11:58:15 pm »
Well said krys. I agree with 1 and 3 especially.

Users / Re: Call for donations for features.
« on: August 13, 2009, 10:04:11 pm »
I'd contribute for a native iphone orbiter that works on jailbroken iphones.

I'd contribute for a UI1 orbiter with a continuous volume/lighting control (though I think I read this is a lot of work or even impractical)

I'd contribute for an improved UI for tagging media (with powerful sorting filters) which would streamline the tagging process.

Users / Green list in new Titanium skin
« on: August 10, 2009, 07:23:37 pm »
Just updated to latest 810 and switched to Titanium Blue skin and have the following problem (see attached image).

Tried titanium silver and had the same issue.

Users / Re: 8.10 Mainboard suggestions
« on: July 24, 2009, 10:22:46 pm »
Another vote for the M3N78-EM

Feature requests & roadmap / RX8001 Wifi-IR-extender
« on: July 24, 2009, 04:10:56 pm »
Would be great if support for a device like this could be added for those of us who can't lay cable for ethernet-based ir extenders.

Users / Re: Z-wave device compatibility question
« on: July 22, 2009, 03:34:06 am »
How about ACT's Web site...

See my note above about the second link. I found the ZDP100 on that site, but as there is no mention of specific model #s on the wiki, and there is no mention of the ZDP100 in the lmce forums or elsewhere on the wiki, I wanted to make sure that it is indeed compatible before purchasing it.



Users / Z-wave device compatibility question
« on: July 21, 2009, 07:02:22 pm »
I'm looking at and wondering what the model# is for the US version.

The first link points to a European version of the product.

The second link points to a product catalogue (not a particular model). From this I found two models - ZDP100 and ZDP100 v3.2 - Are either of these compatible with LMCE?

The third and fourth link point to UK versions.

Also does anyone know if these modules will work in an older house with no ground plug?

If someone would like to contribute, he will find a way to do so. But don't expect to get the award, before you have something done at all.

The only reward with projects such as these is the self-satisfaction of having contributed something, and the experience that one gains. Anyone who is striving for any other form of reward, whether it is money, respect from the devs and community, etc, is in it for the wrong reasons – plain and simple.

From what I've read no one here is asking for a free reward. The gist of the problem raised by other people is that the initial time investment required (lets call it the "down payment") to make meaningful contributions to this project for a newcomer is too high (compared to other projects). This, they say, is turning away people from the project who's time could otherwise be harnessed.

The devs, on the other hand, appear to disagree; they think the down payment is reasonable, and though they are stretched thin, they are prepared to continue without the help of the less skilled who are unwilling to pay the down payment.

Tim and others are suggesting that the project could be reorganized slightly to make it easier for newcomers to contribute, to decrease the down payment, and to ultimately make the devs' lives easier (wouldn’t that be a good thing, if people started coming out of the woodwork to contribute because it was so easy and fun to do so?) But Tim needs the devs to be on board with the idea for it to have any chance of succeeding at reorganizing things. It’s not that Tim doesn’t want to contribute at all; it’s that he doesn’t want to waste his time trying to do something that the devs have indicated they are opposed to.

Please allow me to juxtapose two quotes:

IF more managemt is needed, then management people just need to start DOING it and not TALKING about it. IF financial gurus think money would help, then they need to raise that money and not just say it is needed and so on.

Before you cry, "well just do all that stuff and stop complaining", you need to know that all that stuff falls into one or both of two categories.  The first requires cooperation from the key developers (how can a graphic designer contribute to a GUI if he doesn't code, or how can a PR person describe to the press about where the project is going without a clear plan being agreed?). 

Similarly, how can a financial guru raise money for the project if there is no clear plan for him to present to potential investors? I think Tim's point is that there are roadblocks which are preventing people from DOING certain things, and there needs to be TALK about those roadblocks so that they can be identified and removed.

And before you say any sort of retort resorting to elitism...

* Those of us doing the work, tend to respect others who also dig in and do work too.

* Those of us doing the work write the code. He who writes the code HAS THE FINAL SAY.

This is because we're down in the trenches, and we choose to give away the fruits of our work for others. There is an unwritten rule here that those who recieve should also give in kind.

So, when you sit there on top of the mount and preach that "you should do this and this and this and this..." guess what? it sounds like you're preaching from the mount.

tmoore, it is THAT reason why I am ascerbic to you. You have done absolutely nothing to gain credibility in this community. If you want your incredibly assertive statements to carry any weight, you need to change this and get down here in the dirt with us.

And the sheer fact you just back-pedaled on your last thread really did nothing to help your credibility. Just a tip.


With all due respect Thom, I believe it is possible to do work on a project such as linuxmce without writing code or documentation (or being in the trenches as you call it). I see Tim’s writing on this forum as doing work; there is value to proposing/discussing organizational ideas even if you don’t see them as good ones. There are very good reasons why large successful projects have some people dealing with macroscopic elements and other people writing code. The “overseers” are often viewed as bureaucratic deadweight, and a lot of them are, but there are good ones with job functions that actually are important.

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