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Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Core Redundancy:What if?

« on: October 22, 2008, 09:10:00 pm »

Or more like, "I do it right otherwise I don't bother spending the time.." 


-johan

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Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Core Redundancy:What if?

« on: October 22, 2008, 08:55:45 pm »

*shake-head*

*head-in-hands*

guys, stop thinking with duct tape! damn it.

-Thom

*Laughing(with you, not at you)*
I can really picture you sitting there, sighing, shaking your head.
 


Wow I like this discussion that was raised, although tschak see's all the work that has to be done. I think it's a fair question.
 Because this as I see it really put's where we are going to place LMCE in the future map. Maybe the question is mostly relevant for Totallymaxed and towards his customers(assuming some sort of support agreement with the product is included(?)

I agree with the fact that the constant router reload is a little bit annoying but those reloads are only during install/config change right?

Anyways, what made Me stop thinking that the hw redundancy or as I would like to call it Node redundancy was crucial. Was the fact that there is a watchdog resetting threads that is not functioning.
 So there is at least a sw function watching my core when being away.

Also in case of power failure(likely to happen nowadays for some reason) a good UPS with a diesel(or similar) generator needs to be installed to take over.

In case the hw dies for some reason:
 Then the worst case scenario would be that you have no alarm or security and that the hw failure was initated by the burglars themselves.
But assuming that the doorlocks in the house are properly installed I would guess the house is still locked. They will find their way in if they want...

In case of fire, unless generated by the core catching on fire. The core can be configured to give you or the friendly neighboors a warning (as I have understood it)

So in order to get rid of the redundancy holes I listed this to be necessary equipment:
* UPS(the core have to be configured to shut down all unnecessary power(tv,receiver,lamps etc) to save energy until power is back online
* Diesel Generator with starters engine
* Fireproof cabinet for both cores
* Two Cores has to be built
* Two internet connections (one using 3G/Gprs for example and the other using fixed broadband)
* Nas or similar for Hdd redundancy
* Twice the amount of all security sensors/cameras etc
* and the list goes on..
Not to mention all the days/nights/months/years that has to be spent to get everything running...

My point being. I basically knew before starting this thread that for a normal person all of this cannot be achieved and is not really relevant when looking at the whole picture. I just wanted to know if I was the only one having this "concern" and if it would be by easy means possible to achieve(duct tape?). Seems like it is not.

ColinJones, I remember seing something about VMware and LMCE not functioning as it should (it's to complex) when doing my research

Although.. for a Pluto paying customer, this would be a killer "feature"(maybe I should tell them about the idea?) 

So with that said, unless someone pays(big money) for this redundancy(utilized in IPSO for example) to be developed in LMCE. I off course agree that it does not feel very important for a normal user as long as they are aware of Why and what the sacrifices actually are.(money talks ones again)

And it's now being written here in this forum for everyone having the same concern with what it will take.

-johan

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Users / Re: mass moving of files(placed in different directories)

« on: October 21, 2008, 04:24:47 pm »

did that before and during the troubleshooting of the command you suggested.
It seem it wanted me to give a dest filename, because it complained that "no such file or directory"
Tried alot of different ways, like just doing a sudo find trying to see whether my path defined was bogus or something.
Anyway I ended up thinking Hey!.. what about Dolphin.

Went to Doplhin file mgr and made a search there, then took the files that it found and copied them to the directory I wanted.
Voila!
then back again and deleted the original files.
Will now make a file sync in Admin.

Off course it will show the files still but now the files are in the same place..

Is it any way of saving the "view" in the orbiter? For example when choosing to filter only dvd movies I would like it to show only dvd's (remembering my selection) the next time I enter.

Br
Johan

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Users / Re: mass moving of files(placed in different directories)

« on: October 21, 2008, 11:04:06 am »

wow! thanks.. will give it a try. That command I would never have figured out myself..

 hmm.. maybe for that continous moving of file(loop) I can rename the destination files(?)

So far I am only moving it on the same hdd.
 By Metafiles you mean do a resync I guess?

-johan

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Installation issues / Re: Should I change the workgroup name on LinuxMCE?

« on: October 21, 2008, 10:36:34 am »

Connected to the internal or external network?

Dhcp on or off?

if off go to wiki and search for dhcp
if external interface, plug it into internal. or read wiki (there really are Alot of info in there)

-johan
(I usually google for the question with linuxmce in the search and it gets me to the wiki..)

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Installation issues / Re: What gives, dvd install shuts down

« on: October 21, 2008, 10:28:59 am »

the av guide will turn up when everything has been installed. By the looks of it you get problems just before the blue progressbar screen?

As Colin & tschak points out, read the wiki and do some searches both in the forum and in the wiki. And try those things that you find relevant.

Then basic "troubleshooting" taking one component out at a time (leaving the second Nic in though...)

If you have PCI-E graphics, take it out, try the same and use the mobo vga(or whatever there is)

(most of the time) you can disable the Internal graphics in bios settings. But messing inside Bios is Not recommended unless you know Exactly what you're doing eventhough it is fairly safe nowadays.

Good luck!

-johan

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Users / Re: Dedicating a dummy "Room" for automation scenarios

« on: October 20, 2008, 11:42:09 pm »

not sure I understand the question correctly(so I may have missed your point). But if you're looking for a way of changing the orbiter view, then this wiki about creating your own skins may be right for you:
 you can change the view of excisting ones as well with more buttons and stuff as I understand it, will have to try myself very shortly, to get a "kids safe" view.

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Create_my_own_skins_or_GUI_for_LinuxMCE

-johan

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Installation issues / Re: Installation on MSI K9N2GM-FD

« on: October 20, 2008, 11:35:45 pm »

I took me the liberty(be nice to me) to edit the newbie pack for the hybrid. I don't think it's safe to say that this mobo works.
I didn't have the guts to take the whole recommendation away just added a Note about the FIH model.(afraid of messing something up)


Br
Johan

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Installation issues / Re: What gives, dvd installs shuts down

« on: October 20, 2008, 11:03:42 pm »

what is your hw specs?
(motherboard, graphic card etc)


-johan

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Users / mass moving of files(placed in different directories)

« on: October 20, 2008, 10:31:43 pm »

Hello again

Here I am again with yet another noob question.
I updated the screensaver a few days ago and I was Very lazy. Basically I added all the folders with pics and videos (synced from my N95)
What I didn't think of what that LMCE would read all the files and show the video files in the Video view in the orbiter.Very nice feature!! but this time I felt more like.
 Oh! no... crap!.. (there are like 20 clips)

So, before I start going in and out of each directory moving the video clips to one Directory one by one.
Checked the man find but could not see anything like this so I guess there have to be another type of command if it exists (Linux I have learned is full of nice commands and options to those)

Is there a way of doing an advanced find or similar, like

Find *.MP4 move to / whatever / wanted / as / directory /

 


Best Reg.
Johan

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Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Core Redundancy:What if?

« on: October 17, 2008, 12:41:20 pm »

The problem with that though is that this brings the whole system to a halt while the the reload router happens. In some situations this is a pain. ie I'm watching a movie and some device thread dies... and the watchdog decides to reload the router!... my movie playback gets killed for possibly 1-2 mins on a big complex system while the reload happens... then i have to manually restart my movie. Not really very nice at all.

Ideally we need to be able to resurrect a thread without having to restart the whole router to do it...

Andrew

Yes, That's true. That's off course a draw back. How often does this happen for you(or your customers)? (router reload due to the watchdog)
However I rather have this than the whole router getting jammed because of a thread doing nothing.

-johan

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Users / Re: Death threats directed at me.

« on: October 15, 2008, 10:53:28 pm »

Honestly, I wanted the rest of you guys to know. Other than that, I'm not really doing anything.

Ok, that's up to you and probarbly for the best. but still..

The first thing that went through my mind was really, "What did we do to deserve this?"

well to answer your question.
1. You should never have spread the improvements and knowledge of yours..
2. You should never even have registred on this forum.. then use your freetime to help. How rudly.
3. You should have started a company, selling the above mentioned instead.

(to those of you not understanding the above, that was intended as a joke to lighten up the thread abit)
sorry for the OT
-johan

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Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Core Redundancy:What if?

« on: October 15, 2008, 10:38:34 pm »

  makes me wonder why I even bothered thinking about node redundancy..
Thanks.. unless the watchdog dies I think I can live without node redundancy feeling pretty safe actually.

 Because hanging/ freeze or crash was one of my main concerns (as a regular windoz user I'm used to it..)

 Thanks!
 you just saved me alot of time...


-Johan

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Users / Re: Death threats directed at me.

« on: October 15, 2008, 10:19:56 pm »

It really hurts to hear that someone just can't try to understand the amount of time that is put into this. I have read posts and responses that yes they may have been abit to abrubt or to direct (the questions has not been very elegantly put either....)

 But that's only natural since all that energy that is put into this and all the thinking behind it makes this Project (ok if I call it that?) comes very close to your hearts.
Then hearing whining about "why is this not like that" all the time, when you're tired since you haven't slept full nights just to get That thing working to the next release..
 That can make even the Hardcore diplomat skip the BS and go right to the case.

How hard can that be to understand? and we don't even pay anything for you guys to do the work you do so why even bother sending such emails. Yes you as a sender may have become offended in some way but we all cannot share the same view on things, it's what we do about the difference of perception that really counts. That's what keep a project like this evolving, if you think something is crap, well do it better yourself! simple as is..

 This is serious and I hope you report it. Thank you for sharing!

 I think we all have an obligation to interrupt if we see things go wrong and to personal in threads. It should not come to this...

-johan

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Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Core Redundancy:What if?

« on: October 15, 2008, 09:52:40 pm »

Gee, thanks. . . Well as you say, it has to be decided whats important to protect and to what cost.

When it comes to Alarm which was the main reason of concern I am getting my doubts about an actual need for redundancy.
 Afterall if I would decide to keep the normal way of opening a door with a key the house is at least not Open.
I will definately search further in the matter but it seem more closer to the reality if using raided discs(discs has proven to live shorter) to start with and also a good Ups system.

If Totallymaxed have had a core running for two years (with regular maintenance I presume) then there should at least be a possibility that maybe mine will as well if I just keep my hands off when all is working..

Had my first freeze(small crash) yesterday and that one made me feel more safe with this sw.

 after choosing a video(dvd) and then when it started I hit the f7 then menu(to skip the foreplay)
Then when going to dvd options and choosing what I wanted it simply closed the video and froze.
As an used windose user I felt like, ohh! crap.. now I need to reset it. But then I saw that the mediadirector program closed and I came to the LMCE manager I think it's called. Then after a few seconds the mediadirector came back up again...
That impressed me just a little bit(quite much actually) that, to me feels like there are at least some sort of code, checking that all processes are up and if not restart them. wow!

Is there such a "documented" function that overlooks the processes and if one crashes it will be restarted? Or was I just being lucky?

In that case I feel my worry about the Core going to a windos freeze kinda mode is less likely to happen


-johan