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Users / Re: Nokia N770/N800 and Follow Me
« on: December 13, 2007, 06:17:47 pm »
My experience in houses in Germany indicates no such range problems. I have no bluetooth access outside of each room. It really works only within each specific room.

Is the current orbiter for the Nokias not capable of the automatic follow-up, or should just not be used?
the Nokia orbiter is the native linux one compiled for arm. It uses an IP (WLAN) connection and not the "BD" code for orbiters (bluetooth "bridge" to dcerouter).
I don't know if there is a DCE message to change the room on an orbiter. If yes, it should be easy to use some bluetooth scanning software on the N800 (maybe a "hcitool scan") and hack a small script to send messages based on the findings.. If the HWAddr for BT-sticks is stored in the database you should be able to look the room information up from the MAC, too.

but i'm only guessing and don't know for sure. What i know for sure is that there is a better approach to this problem than this quick and dirty hack  ;D

best regards,

Users / Re: LinuxMCE and Misterhouse
« on: December 13, 2007, 06:05:02 pm »
I understand what you are saying, but until the messaging system in LMCE is vastly speeded up I cannot think about using it for my motion triggered lights and to repond to my X10 wall switches. They need to be as quick as possible.
the dcerouter is fast enough for that. It's not the messaging system. I think the X10 implementation should be improved. Look at what ddamron has done for insteon simply using GSD (

best regards,

Developers / Re: Graphical view on pluto_main
« on: December 13, 2007, 12:11:15 am »
thank you for the hint..

Developers / Graphical view on pluto_main
« on: December 12, 2007, 07:25:38 pm »
Hi devs,

i did a visio import of "pluto_main":

maybe someone with a big screen and patience can interconnect the foreign keys and align the tables (by repo?)?

best regards,

Developers / Re: DLNA Support?
« on: December 12, 2007, 06:07:59 pm »

Developers / Re: DLNA Support?
« on: December 12, 2007, 05:50:48 pm »
im sorry if you feel insulted. Thank you for your contributions. We are all here to improve our world with free software.

Welcome gianfri,

How we could help this comunity?
very helpful would be access to remote control command specifications (RS232, telnet, whatever) for ha devices (RS232 control for AV Equipment, Security panels, any other stuff).

There is a great generic approach to such devices in LMCE (GSD) and having that specifications would allow us to add plenty of devices and implement plug and play autodetection. There is also a mechanism to share these device templates between user installations. We are working hard to come up with this system in a developer snapshot (probably based on 0710).

You can also "bridge" to LMCE with the DCE protocol. There is information in the wiki on how to interface with a c++ class or plain text over tcp ports

Maybe you can tell me what kind of devices your company offers or what systems are supported?

best regards,

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: linuxmce hardware database
« on: December 12, 2007, 05:29:21 pm »

so what really makes me angry is not your questioning or ignoring documentation. Its taking something for a promise whats really hard work for other people they do for free.


Developers / Re: DLNA Support?
« on: December 12, 2007, 05:22:26 pm »
And it's hard to believe that you're "sorry", when you continued to attack me elsewhere for just asking about status.
so this is no attack. You simply ignore facts and documentation (, You don't care to research and simply spam in the developers forum. Do you think some big map or documentation fell onto our head? We are in the code and document our progress.

So, please with sugar and cherry on top: if you want to get involved start with _anything_ now. Maybe you want to do a schema map of the pluto_main database with dia, visio or such? (please, please please?)
So you can say then: i did some of the documentation instead of simply wheening for it. I have no problem researching the upnp stuff in the codebase for you, but you have to involve, too. And asking for things that are documented is not really helpful.


Feature requests & roadmap / Re: linuxmce hardware database
« on: December 12, 2007, 04:13:56 pm »
Not exactly the same, but is the distributed database of GSD interfaces described as supported in "A new concept in collaborative development" actually up and running at all like it's promised?
who promised you what?

I thought you were reading the developer forums (at least you post there)? We are spending much effort into getting this running and documenting the process. There was a call for testers, too.

I wish you would realize that it is hard work to enable features for users. I have no problem spending evenings and weekends to improve our all experience with LMCE, but your redundant posts ignoring the information in the forum and wiki does not help here.


Developers / Re: DLNA Support?
« on: December 12, 2007, 03:47:46 pm »
Not really. I never offered to do anything.
sorry, i had the impression you wanted to get involved with developement
The other specific request that you came up with was that I extend Net::UPnP to support control points, which it already does.
not for AV control

Developers / Re: Appliance vs Package vs Distro
« on: December 12, 2007, 01:23:53 am »
Agreed Nari. Thats why i have also been focusing efforts on Debian Etch. I hope to have something approaching functional by the end of Jan 2008.
so what are your milestones?
btw, DCERouter runs fine, too

Developers / Re: DLNA Support?
« on: December 12, 2007, 01:22:54 am »
Thanks for the pointer. Though UPNP isn't quite DLNA, and evidently LMCE UPNP isn't quite UPNP, though it does seem to support control points. I have asked someone with superior UPNP experience, who seems to be working on that feature in LMCE, to go for full DLNA support.
you mean RonInSd: "3) Upgrade the UPnP services to support the RemoteUI part of UPnP.  I am still doing some research into the UPnP RemoteUI specs.  I know that some of the newer Media Extenders have some support for UPnP RemoteUI. "? Circular reference?
OK, done ;).
ok, let me get things straight for you:
1.) the control point in libupnp (the intel library) does only support listing media
2.) Net::UPnP uses libupnp
3.) we need a media controller
4.) please read first

all clear?


Developers / Re: Appliance vs Package vs Distro
« on: December 12, 2007, 12:16:45 am »
i compiled the common libs (RA,DCECommon,Serialize,pluto_main) and some binaries (MakeRelease,MakeRelease_PrepFiles,sqlCVS) on debian etch to give this thread some content. OpenBSD comes next. This would be the first step on any distribution. Until somebody is willing to do the same on <insert your favorite os here>, please stop spamming the developers forum with feature requests.

It's not like there is some budget and have to discuss how to spend it. Until some of you wants to dedicate effort this won't be done. And i tell you what: you could use the binaries on an appliance, as a package or without (does tar count as a package format?), on some distros. But if you won't compile it for your target, it is senseless to discuss about packaging or distribution.

best regards,

Developers / Re: DLNA Support?
« on: December 12, 2007, 12:03:30 am »
search the forums, eg:

search the code:

you are a perl expert. Please extend Net::UPnP to include control point functionality.

best regards, Hari

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