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Developers / Re: Where the Source Code Lives
« on: January 10, 2008, 12:08:33 pm »
It's definately Charonmedia...
Maybe Paul could shut that sf-project down or at least clear the svn on sf so there is no future misunderstandings...

From my experience, AMP does not give enough options anyway...

Go for the files in /etc/asterisk/ Especially sip.conf
If you have a NAT, look at nat.conf, etc...

There you can edit anything, you need and maybe even copy&paste a config from your sip-provider

Developers / Re: Updating UpdateMedia
« on: November 20, 2007, 03:14:05 pm »
why don't you use the web archives of mailman?
Or have a daily digest sent by mail... The Mailinglists supports daily digest instead of single-messeging...
The pluto guys have some kind of a "MasterUsers" Table and are provisioning other systems from it. I'm thinking about a "simple sign on" system with ldap backend. We then could feed the wiki, sqlCVS, mantis and more to come from there.
I guess you mean something like an openID-System for the developers community ? I don't know about the current forum and mantis and so on, but phpbb does support it.

I guess, it wasn't too bad to have a known forum-admin as well as mantis. For the trac-environment and mailinglist, there is a maintainer with root that we know exists and cares as well as there have been admins promoted for the wiki, but a moderator on the forum could split this topic for example. So that is a real need for both, the forum and mantis.

What i wonder about if we should give every user a unique installation id. Its "1" for now...
I definately prefer a non-IDed version of LinuxMCE. If someone wants to be registered and unique, they may of course get a different one, but from the privacy perspective and data-protection we cannot give everyone a unique ID. We would start joining M$ with their policy but without their (official) reason they have of preventing piracy.

Best regards,


Right. I have to apologize, I was mistaken. It was not developed there, but hari announced it and his server there as well as on the forum. My bad. I was confused, as there were some mails going back and forth about the sqlCVS with the build-from-scratch-process.

I don't see it as setting up a bunch of new places, but daniel provided us with a full development area with svn, bugtracker trac and a mailinglist. The advantage is that these places at charonmedia are maintained. So I'd see the mailinglist as an addition.

To the three accounts: I guess you can forget about the mantis account. It seems somewhat useless. There are some people I have never heard of in the forum or wiki or mailinglist, that produce patches that I never got to see. That seems to be pluto-people with their system, but without feedback to a community-driven development, we're certainly all trying to achieve together...

In my opinion, the advantage of the mailinglist is, that you don't have to keep track of it. It comes to your inbox if you join and it does so right away without having to click reload several times a day... ;)
I'm up for a talk about that and everything else... but let's do that on freenode ;)

Yeah, exacty that reference was developed on the mailinglist about 10 days ago...
So come and join the discussion there...

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Is There a Roadmap?
« on: November 14, 2007, 11:03:43 am »
Well, there is kind of a roadmap at ;)
From my knowledge, the roadmap is like this:
The first issue is getting LinuxMCE build from scratch.
Hava a first comunity-release. (planned 0804)
Besides that, I consider Bugfixing and making existing functionality work is a major priority. That includes the secure private files with pin, mythtv-issues, and so on.
After that, I guess the developers willing to contribute will be the ones defining priorities. So feature wishes that come with an implementation are likely to be included first.
Besides that we will need maintainers for the different areas of linuxmce and master-maintainer, and stuff like that.

So my guess is that before a "real" feature-roadmap can be defined, we will need to do the base working first and then it depends on the developers choices.

You are welcome to contribute and work with the rest of us.

Best regards, Andreas

How does database pluto_main_build get created
Please have a look at and the mailinglist at
There are discussions of developers who try to find that out... ;)

Developers / Re: Audio only Xine player for lmce
« on: November 14, 2007, 10:49:20 am »
I also like that idea. And I even have an extension to it.

I think it would be nice, to have a shoutcast/icecast-server as an audio-device as well. My scenario is that i'm sitting at work and can log into my core, using the web-orbiter and select whatever i want to hear and have that streamed to my workplace. So I can use the playlists, I built at home, at work and don't even have to move the actual mp3/ogg-files to work, which might be forbidden by company-law for security reasons.

Second it would be nice to add several audio-devices to a single md for different applications. My scenario there is to have a bluetooth headset for telephony with the md and regular speakers for movies and music. with the regular speakers, the integrated softphone is somewhat useless for me.

For this, of course the audio-system would have to be reworked a little.

The SVN is afaik up-to-date with the updates that came during the 0704-lifetime. It's propably nice to learn about the basic structure, but when the 0710 comes from paul and his helpers, a somewhat different codebase will propably be introduced. After that, I don't see, why this should not be added to the base, if it works well. My suggestion would be to add the option not to the audio-wizard, as this should be kept as simple as possible and for standard-setups to work right away, but to add it to the pluto-admin instead.

Best regards, Andreas

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Pictures
« on: November 09, 2007, 09:25:30 am »

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: add webinterface
« on: November 07, 2007, 08:03:26 pm »
Just to add some extra input:

How about the stuff that is used by the web-control for dbox2... it's called yweb...
They utilize the vlc-player-plugin to show the video streamed over the network.
see for some information... (sorry, that i couldn't find any english site)
(It's also used by the mytv-dbox2-video-source-plugin, i think)

Developers / Re: bluray and hddvd playback
« on: November 06, 2007, 07:51:10 pm »
What kind of hardware acceleration do you want ?

There was an article in the german C'T testing hddvd and blueray on windows with a state-of-the-art machine and it does not work well at all...
The video-acceleration of ati and nvidia (that is only in 2 chipsets of each vendor) does not make the big difference...

The problem is with the decryption. That eats up two thirds of the performance needed for playing hd-content from blueray and hddvd...

I think we'll have to wait until some vendor has the mercy or finds it to be an interessting market and supports hardware-decryption for both standards and hopefully works with the linux community on drivers for the kernel... besides that, lay back and relax and watch hd-content from your cable provider... Here in Germany, you cannot even do that for more than 3 programs...

Patience is the key for consumers and the industry just ruins technology-evolution... Too complex creatures (1080/i/p/25/30/unsupported+fake24p,...) never survive... And trying to sell a customer 3 different devices within only 3 years for [hd ready 720 | full hd 1080/25,30 | full hd ready? 1080/24p], 2 video-disk-formats with changing specification after release (blueray 1.3something finally got picture-in-picture but still no internet-content from hddvd) instead of compining video-features from hddvd with storage from blueray (40gb compared to 50gb or 100gb with firmware-upgrade on 4-layer)...

Don't expect any company to really put effort in research and driver-building until those arguments are settled and there is actually a market of working products... ;)

(Sorry for bitching around...)

Best regards,

a sad Andreas

Developers / Re: bluray and hddvd playback
« on: November 04, 2007, 01:17:33 pm »
Possiple ?
Not really... The Movies are encrypted. There is one key that was hacked some time ago, i think, but I don't know, what software you'd need to use it and it will be invalidated some time in the near future. The only Software, that I know of that has a key is PowerDVD for Windows...

Legal ?
It's not legal to crack the key. Just as with DVDs under Linux... That's not legal as well (in most countries), as the Encryption Key of the DVD is cracked when you insert it. That's why the lib is not shipped with most Linux Distributions...

For more information, you should visit wikipedia and the appropriate forums and communities focusing especially on dvd, blueray and hddvd and legal and driver issues... LinuxMCE only utilizes whatever there is being developed...

Best regards, Andreas

Developers / Re: Can I fix the TV Crashing problem?
« on: November 01, 2007, 05:39:34 pm »

The logs from pluto are stored unter /var/log/pluto and there is also a mytv-log. The log-levels can be set in the launchmanager...

What LinuxMCE uses for TV is MythTV. For the next release 0710 there will be the newer Version of MythTV and daniel is providing some bugfixes for mythtv as well. So it might become a little more stable for 0710...

Regarding DVB-T; I have had dvb-t running on my machine here in Germany. Only had some troubles with the signal-strength and a problem with mythtv continuously switching back and forth between tv-guide and tv. There's also a thread about this somewhere here in the forum.

Regarding the question, if you can help; you sure can... Investigate the bug, try to find the component that malfunctions. Is it a mythtv-problem ? Is it fixed if you try a newer version of standalone mythtv ? The actual coding is not that much work. The real good investigation and well-done documentation of the bug (what is the config, how does it crash, what does work, ... and for Mythtv most important: is it a backend or a frontend problem ?) are worth just as much...

If you want to get into the code though (be it for fun or investigation), have a look at for the source-code and /trunk/src/MythPlayer, i think.

Best Regards,


Help Wanted / Re: Linux mce remote, wher to buy?
« on: October 30, 2007, 11:01:38 am »
The Hardware used in the video can be found here:

The remote you refer to is from Fiire.
But there are many others that can be used as well...

Developers / Re: up to date svn ?
« on: October 29, 2007, 12:52:21 pm »
Just found it...
I don't know anything about that right now... I'll try to get some more information... The most current svn I know is the one mentioned above...

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