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Hi Jason,

As ever you seem to always take an aggressive stance whenever you post something relating to Dianemo. You seem to have an inherent dislike for anything we do or say. All I will say is that we've been involved with LinuxMCE as individuals, and as a company since the very moment this forum was created.

I believe we have demonstrated to everyone over the years here that we are honest and honourable, and we do what we say. We're not perfect of course, but I believe people know that we always strive to do the right 'thing' - you can look through the forums and see that I believe.

I have tried to respond to your comments below;

Your wrote;
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Planning phase of the license but pay us now...   Right.  I've heard that before.  Can you elaborate on which (exactly) portions of your release will be GPL and what capabilities the 'base' Dianemo-Rpi2 includes?  This is very ambiguous and leaves room for you to decide, after you have solicited monies from people, which portions you may release as GPL and which not.  Since the majority of the base of the Dianemo system is GPL (as LinuxMCE is) I'm not sure what the difference is and when/if you intend to provide source for those GPL portions.

Dianemo-Rpi2 Base is the whole system and source code will be provided under the GPL.

You wrote;
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Do 'developers' get access to source code that non-'developers' would not have access to?

If you subscribe to our proposed Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Subscription site then yes you will get access to source code that is not available to non-subscribers. But that source code will only be for the Plugin extensions we provide as part of the subscription. The plugins we provide to subscribers (the way to extend the base system with custom code) will likely be GPL too - we are still considering this. But in any case source code will be provided to subscribers for our Plugins.

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I'm sorry.  Did I just read that correctly.  People will have to pay for support through this 'free' forum?  WTF?  I do not agree with this myself.  Andrew do you intend to sponsor the forums and pay for the running of the forum to help with your 'paid' support that you will provide?

The Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Forum will be hosted on our servers and not here. Yes developers who want to participate in our Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer forum will need to subscribe. As we will not be charging for a license to use Dianemo-Rpi2 Base this is how we will generate revenue from Dianemo-Rpi2. Developers will get access to our direct support and participation, our Plugin library and help/support with any Plugin code they are developing themselves.

We think this arrangement will work well for all concerned. Anyone will be able to download Dianemo-Rpi2 base and install it for free - and get a working system from it too. These people will be the majority of the user base, ordinary users who just want to get a basic system working. However if any of those ordinary users wish to dig a little deeper into Dianemo-Rpi2 then they can subscribe to our Forum and get access to all its resources - for about $96 USD per year. So an ordinary user might subscribe for a year simply while they were getting their system in shape. They can cancel their subscription after a year, and never pay us another cent, and they can keep and use any Plugins they downloaded from our library too. So in that scenario their system has cost them just $96.

Alternatively that ordinary user could contact any of the 3rd part Developers who will be subscribers to our Forum and have them customise their Dianemo-Rpi2 system for them - that would be an arrangement between them and we would not be involved in anyway.

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I really love what you're doing (from a commercial standpoint).  But to do it on the back of OSS and a free support forum appears shady to me.

I can't see anything shady at all. We are still evolving our plans, but anyone reading this or that has had any dealings with us, or me, will know we are in no way 'shady'. As I said above the Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Forum will be hosted on our servers and not here. Anyone who purchases a Dianemo-Rpi2 Preview license currently will get a perpetual membership (at zero cost) to our Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Forum when it goes live. This is what their payment is really for as Dianemo-Rpi2 Base will be free and available to anyone.

Dianemo X86 will be licensed as it is now (ie a one time license fee) and support will continue to be located here for software only customers as now, as there will continue to be a considerable commonality of code between Dianemo X86 & LinuxMCE.

Andy



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Hi Andy,

Since it is May already (when you're making this post) and you're asking for money for a specific product....  Do you have a more specific date for the end of your 'sale'?

Thanks,

J.

Your confusing yourself again. This thread is about our imminent update for Dianemo X86 that takes it to Ubuntu 14.04LTS, from its current Ubuntu 12.04LTS base. We have numerous systems in final testing both in the field and in our testing lab too.

We expect to release our Ubuntu 14.04LTS updater for existing customers, and our installer for new customers late next week.

All the best

Andy



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If you are thinking of purchasing a Dianemo X86 License then you might want to look at our Dianemo X86 Basic license that is currently available for only $249 USD.

See here for details; http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=8880.msg100221#msg100221

Once the Ubuntu 14.04LTS Update ships Dianemo Basic can be updated to 14.04LTS for FREE.

Dianemo X86 licenses will undergo a price increase when we launch support for Ubuntu 14.04LTS. We've released the Updater but we have some components like ZM integration with Dianemo events & viwing ZM cameras in Athena UI that are still not complete. Therefore the price increase will not happen until those are complete.

Best


Andy

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Here is a very brief update on our testing of Ubuntu 14.04LTS installs, and updates from 12.04LTS, for Dianemo X86;

Progress on testing updates is progressing well, with very few issues now remaining. So far we completed 45 updates from Dianemo on 12.04LTS and the last 7-8 have been clean & successful.

Clean installs of Dianemo on Ubuntu 14.04LTS are also reaching the end of pre-release testing. So far we have completed 27 clean installs and the last 5 have been successful.

We also have several Dianemo X86 systems that have been running continuously on 14.04LTS now for about 10 days without any major issues

We expect all test series to continue into next week. If no major issue appear we will likely release the new Dianemo X86 installer and update scripts by Fri next week.

Best

Andy

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As with Kmotion, we have taken the approach with Zoneminder, that basic configuration etc will be supported as it is now directly inside Web Admin. But detailed configuration and setup, fine tuning and advanced features of Zoneminder are best handled in its native configuration pages. Therefore we will provide access to Zoneminders own configuration Web UI from inside Dianemo's Web Admin.

Best

Andy

51
Hi all,

Below I have described how easy it is to add Radio Station Favourites (ie Presets) to Dianemo's Athena UI. Add as many as you like, complete with the stations official icon, and in Athena these changes are available in your Orbiters immediately without needing a Regen or a Reload too.

Adding Radio Station Favourites to your Dianemo system;

From Web Admin use the menus to select the following; Advanced->Configuration->Slim Server

You will now see the Logitech Media Server (LMS) main configuration page. Simply follow the steps below to add as many Radio Stations Favourites to the Athena Radio screen as you like. These Radio Favourites will appear in any Room or Entertainment Area that has audio capability (you will see a Radio icon in the Orbiters Icon bar);

- Firstly click on the triangle next to 'My Radio'
- Next use the icons that displayed beneath the triangle to find the station you want to add as a favourite
- Tip - 'World' is useful for international stations
- Keep drilling down until you find the station you are looking for, then hover you mouse pointer over its name. You will see some icons appear to the right of the station name, when you hover over it - click the 'Heart' icon to make that station a Favourite (you will see a '-' will appear on the icon after you click it to indicate that if you click on it a second time it will be removed from your Favourites)
- Now click on the triangle next to 'Favourites' and you should see all your currently saved Favourites (*Note to remove a Favourite you need to find it again under 'My Radio' as described above*).

Now if you go back to any Orbiter and choose a Room with audio capability you will see the Radio icon in the top bar. Click on Radio in the top bar and you will see your Favourites listed as station icons with names. Select any Station Icon and it will play in the Room you currently have selected in your Orbiter - you will also see information about the current show being broadcast, including the currently playing track and DJ etc (this information is dependent on the station selected - not all stations provide this information), and there will be audio volume controls displayed at the bottom of the screen in the controls bar.

You can switch rooms without interrupting the music playback, and can start streams playing in other rooms or entertainment areas too.

Enjoy!

All the best

Andy

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Marketplace / Update Available - Insteon
« on: April 30, 2015, 02:27:45 pm »
We now support the Insteon PLM-2413U and any devices it supports in Dianemo - a much requested update. If you have an existing set of devices added to your PLM-2413U then they will be detected and automatically imported into the Dianemo device tree as child devices of the PLM. The device template is #1932.

Insteon devices are fully compatible with the new Athena Orbiter and UI.

Please run the updater script as usual to update your system.

All the best

Andy

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Marketplace / Dianemo-Rpi2 will be supported on Ubuntu 14.04LTS
« on: April 30, 2015, 12:38:57 pm »
Dianemo-Rpi2 for Ubuntu 14.04LTS
A new Era in Smart Home Technology


Many of you have asked about Ubuntu support for Dianemo-Rpi2 recently. I can now confirm that Dianemo-Rpi2 will be available on Ubuntu 14.04LTS.

All the best

Andy

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Hi there,

Just to clarify that the kmotion package will still be present in new, and updated, Ubuntu 14.04LTS installations after updating. So it is possible to retain your current Kmotion set-up if you want to and there is no requirement to switch to Zoneminder immediately. However we cannot guarantee that the kmotion package will be maintained, or included, in the future for more than 6 months after our 14.04LTS release. However this should provide you with plenty of time to move your system over to ZoneMinder.

All the best

Andy

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Dianemo X86 Update to Ubuntu 14.04LTS
A new Era in Smart Home Technology

The a preliminary Updater for our new Dianemo X86 release for Ubuntu 14.04LTS is available now. The major changes in the 14.04LTS release are around security cameras and the overall hardware compatibility of the new kernel. Dianemo will be transitioning to Zoneminder + Cassandra for its IP security camera functionality (we suggest any existing users should familiarise themselves with Zoneminder in preparation).

The update will be free for existing Dianemo license holders - as usual. However new Dianemo 14.04 licenses will undergo a price increase once we ship 14.04 - to purchase at the existing price please order Dianemo x86 licenses now (you can then update to 14.04 for free).

Please contact; inquiries@ellipticalcurve.com if you have any questions or wish to place an order.

Best

Andy

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We have released an update today that allows you to interface Dianemo to Onkyo Integra Receiver (TX-NR616). The device template is template no. #1886

As usual please use the Updater script to update your system with this update and any pending Ubuntu updates too.

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Marketplace / Dianemo U
« on: April 20, 2015, 03:37:05 pm »
This update fixes a number of small bugs, fixes some layout issues in the UI and now supports Kmotion too. If you have configured Kmotion security cameras in Web Admin your new Athena Orbiter will display a 'Cameras' button in the top bar for any rooms you have elected to make them accessible in.

Please run the Updater script as usual to install this update and any un-installed Ubuntu updates too.

All the best

Andy

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See our post on how licensing will likely work after we launch Dianemo-Rpi2 here;

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=14048.0

All the best

Andy

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Marketplace / Dianemo-Rpi2 - How will Licensing Work After Launch?
« on: April 17, 2015, 04:22:32 pm »
Dianemo-Rpi2 for Raspberry-Pi2 Licensing
A new Era in Smart Home Technology
--Preview License Holders Get Free 'Lifetime' Subscriptions--

Here is how licensing will broadly work after launch:

We're still very much in the planning phase on licensing, but our current sense is that we may go with a license that works something like this:

  • Dianemo-Rpi2 Base (License GPL)- This is the base Dianemo-Rpi2 software that will be downloadable for free by anyone. Includes access to our online user manual
  • Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Subscription (around $8 USD per month) - Your subscription will include access to our  Developer Support Forum, Developer Support Services, ability to add Media Directors to your installations, access to our exclusive Plugin Extensions and updates + remote support capability to your customers systems (if you have any of course). You will receive a license key with your subscription. This is targeted at Plugin developers, Smart Home Consultants and anyone customising Dianemo-Rpi2 for end users
Essentially the Dianemo-Rpi2 Preview is equivalent to the Dianemo-Rpi2 Base software + 'Developer' subscription level above. So after launch anyone can download the basic system for free. Think of it like downloading Wordpress and installing it on your own hardware. Those that want our direct technical support, access to our special Dianemo Plugin library (which will grow over time) and remote access capability can pay an annual subscription (anyone can subscribe but the target audience is primarily developers, Smart Home installers etc - pricing is still being decided but will work out to less than $8 USD per month.).

We think this subscription model will work well for anyone involved in the Dianemo-Rpi2 community. Anyone can get a basic system setup for just the hardware costs and a free download, which is the DIY type of user. If a DIY type users want's access to the subscription service then they can subscribe for a year while they get their system into shape, then cancel their subscription - their system will continue to work as is and will receive our base system updates. But a DIY type user could also find a Dianemo-Rpi2 installer or consultant and have them configure and setup their system for them too.

For those who want to develop plugins, or build a consulting business around Dianemo-Rpi2, they can pay for a yearly subscription that will allow them to get support from us through the Forum, develop their own Plugins to extend the base system,  access to our exclusive Plugin Extensions and Remote Access capability to any customer systems they install or advise on (and they can install our exclusive Plugin Extensions on their customer systems at no additional cost either).

The great news is to say thank you to all Dianemo-Rpi2 Preview license holders they will get the developer subscription service for free once it launches, for as long as we make it available - we think this is an incredible deal!

All the best

Andy

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I just wanted to say that although our primary motivation in offering the 'Family member' deal is to get feedback on ease of installation, and on connecting home together - we do realise that some of you may just want a second license. We really aren't going to be too worried about some of you not providing the feedback we're looking for - i promise.

So please order a 2nd license if you want one - we wont give you the 'third degree' as to why you want it!

Thanks.

Andy

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