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Developers / Re: Nokia 770 Orbiter
« on: September 15, 2007, 05:59:08 pm »
well for me, it takes on average about 2 to 4 seconds for a screen update under OS2006 when changing screens... is this normal?

Also, for some reason, the orbiter will randomly stop responding, and drop out to the log-in screen again. I can press start orbiter again, and it will log back in with no problems, but I find myself doing this quite frequently..again is this normal???

I wanted to use OS2007, but for some reason, the last time I did, it was sooo much slower. :-( I hope this thing can be faster someday, the 770/N800 make a GREAT orbiter, especially for non-media home control.


Our experience is of the speed of screen updates ie when changing from the home menu to say the lighting floorplan is takes on average about 1-2 secs to update the screen. Responses to commands ie 'Play'  or 'Pause' DVD or swtiching channels on TV is that the commands are as fast as they would be on an MD.

Nite_man has both the N770 and the N800 and he feels the N800 is significantly fatster and more stable. My feeling is that some of the situations where you are dumped back into the log-in screen are caused by WiFi issues... the Orbiter code is intolerant of this kind of connectivity drop-out. This is an area where I think the Orbiter code needs some work.

But overall its far better than the WinCE Orbiter... and in our experience more stable and importantly provides the full UI1 Orbiter UI on a very well designed and engineered piece of hardware. Just compare what companies like AMX etc charge for kind of capability!!!

Developers / Re: Nokia 770 Orbiter
« on: September 15, 2007, 02:28:51 pm »
Ok, it's been a while since I lasted posted on this subject. But I've recently got some time to work on it so here it goes:

I know I said I would install OS2006 to see if that helps my stability problem. Before I did that, however, I figured I'd gather some more information about what the orbiter is acutally doing as it has issues.

It can take anywhere between 3 - 20 seconds (never less) for anything to happen when you press a button on the orbiter. I ran top and noticed that maemo-launcher constantly eats up 25-50% of the CPU. I was able to get to the video screen where it listed all the videos (after waiting about 20 seconds). The video screen was very slow at operating anything. When selecting a video it completely locks up. I was running top while it was doing this and I noticed that the media player was running. Of course, that's as far as I can get as it's becomes unresponsive at that point.

That's when it's in it's "working" state. It often crashes completely and will even take xterm with it at times. One time I noticed after it completely crashed I lost net connection (ssh died and couldn't connect) even though the WLAN monitor said I was connected. Once I disconnected and reconnected I was able to ssh back into it.

I'm going to try OS2006 in a bit, but I'm going to take a break from this one for a little while.

I got nite_man's N770 Orbiter running on our N770 under OS2006 (latest release) a day or so back. I had a few problems with getting the correct repos added but nite_man helped with that!

It works really nicely and my experience is that under OS2006 it s pretty stable. It has failed a few times but often this was when several reload routers were done in quick succession and also sometimes I  think the WiFi connection can the problem.

Overall its great and everyone that has seen it has loved it.

Users / Re: LinuxMCE Demo @ Maker Faire
« on: September 12, 2007, 08:56:57 pm »
Does the intermatic USB adapter work with LMCE?  I was under the impression that it did not.

The intermatic USB SUC is not supported currently by lmce's Zwave driver I'm afraid.

Users / Re: Flickr images not appearing on Core/Hybrid
« on: September 12, 2007, 02:50:12 pm »
It doesn't matter what UI you use. Check also media director properties on the admin site: Wizard --> Media :: "Software modules". There is a check box which control the screen server (I switched it off to save HDD space and PC resources).

The screen saver setting is in; Web Admin ->Wizard -> Devices -> Media Directors - Software Modules

However this is set to 'on' by default. MD's seem to be ok but our Hybrid Core's never seem to display any screen saver images even though the screensaver setting is switched to on.

Users / Re: Comments on the LinuxMCE update mechanism
« on: September 12, 2007, 02:31:40 pm »
The first LinuxMCE update is out to handle MythTV and schedules direct.  There's a thread about it here:

I wanted to start a thread for people to comment on suggestions for improving the update mechanism in general.

Well looking at the user experience I think some of the wording in the on screen messages is a little ambiguous. Also the update dropped into the console for a lengthy period... which is fine for all of us here but a non-technical user might find it disconcerting. I think it might be a good idea to have a progress bar (or possibly have it handled through the Manager UI)

Users / Re: Flickr images not appearing on Core/Hybrid
« on: September 11, 2007, 12:40:44 am »
I have seen something like this happen on my hybrid (it's using UI1), showed a black screen instead when the screensaver kicks in.  I don't recall changing anything so I think it was just a temporary fluke, but I do reboot a lot to switch back and forth to other installs so maybe that "fixed" it.  Or maybe it was one of the older installations I use for messing about.  If I run into it again I'll try and take a closer look what might be causing that.

Is the #####.LaunchPhoto_Screen_Saver.sh_## screen-session running?
Are there errors in the /var/log/pluto/ file?

We are running UI1 but I can't see any errors in the logs. I'll keep an eye on them though thanks.

Users / Flickr images not appearing on Core/Hybrid
« on: September 10, 2007, 06:52:48 pm »
Anyone else not getting any images displayed in the screensaver of their Hybrids Orbiter? There are images in the Flickr directory for each day... and we see them on the MD's. Any ideas on this?

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Single NIC installation
« on: September 10, 2007, 06:20:18 pm »
Maybe you should read this thread again, there are several people saying that construction works just fine but requires some extra setup.

I still see no deficiency in the installer at all.  Having to do some extra configuration simply because you chose not to follow the recommended setup is not really an argument. 

I agree. The lmce networking setup/options work as they are perfectly well for either a 2 NIC or single NIC config. Nothing in our opinion needs changing there. Most of our installations are single NIC installs but thats for the most part to allow us to build compact Core's without the need for adding a PCI card.

So once and for all ... you already have all the config options you need. Honest you really do!

Users / Re: PSP as Orbiter
« on: September 10, 2007, 06:02:24 pm »
Hi totallymaxed

Need any beta testers for the PSP software? I am more than happy and willing to lend a hand.



I expect we will make a version available here and that will in effect be a beta. I'll post an item here when we're at that stage.

Installation issues / Re: Kubuntu Install from CD
« on: September 09, 2007, 07:40:58 pm »
I opened that one, and it is the same as the mirror i have used.
I have downloaded the the alternate i386 iso, but when it asks for the location of the cd or iso, it does some stuff for 5 minutes, then comes back with with the error that it cannot cache the live cd.
So my thoughts are that i've been using the wrong iso for the install.
There is not an iso called live cd as such, so perhaps I have been using the wrong iso?
I did the kubuntu install from kubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
Is this correct?
for good measures i am downloading kubuntu-7.04-Desktop-i38.iso, and hoping that will work better. It is a bit of an expensive download seeing as in South Africa we only get 3GB a month on ADSL :-(

Thats the correct iso :-)

Users / Re: storage devices
« on: September 09, 2007, 07:34:05 pm »
Automounter keeps remounting my extra drives over and over..   Drives have partitions which are formatted ext3.  I don't mind that they're being mounted via /etc/auto.PlutoStorageDevices though it's filling up my drive with all of the extra logging when these drives are being remounted every 10 - 20 seconds..

I've temporarly killed the automount process until I can figure out what is going on.. 

I also seem to be running into an issue where the UpdateMedia daemon keeps adding the same files over and over into the pluto_media.files table?  Is it suppose to do that?   I ran a unique count and there were hundreds of files that had been repeated over 60 times..   

Any ideas? 



--- syslog --
Sep  9 10:19:40 dcerouter kernel: [50580.502399] EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal
Sep  9 10:19:40 dcerouter kernel: [50580.502595] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Sep  9 10:19:46 dcerouter kernel: [50586.260585] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Sep  9 10:19:46 dcerouter kernel: [50586.261082] EXT3 FS on hdd1, internal journal
Sep  9 10:19:46 dcerouter kernel: [50586.261254] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Sep  9 10:19:46 dcerouter kernel: [50586.474092] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Sep  9 10:19:46 dcerouter kernel: [50586.474438] EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended

We've seen this too. It seems to us to be triggered by some storage being added to the Core and then at some point being removed (even though it might be temporary) ie a NAS.

This really needs to be fixed urgently in our opinion... we don't have a fix by the way. But if we do we will post it here.

1. I "ripped" a DVD (all worked good) but now I can't play the ripped file... I can find it but it won't start. Error message I gonna place later when I'm back at home.

Sounds like you need to add libdvdcss to allow lmce to decrypt your ripped (and real DVD's). From the Orbiter main meenu on your Core click on lmce menu -> Add Software. Now click on libdvdcss and add it. You should get a 'tick' symbol displayed on screen when it has added successfully (this mya take a few mins to appear). Now do a reload router and then try playing a ripped or 'real' DVD again and they should play ;-)

Installation issues / Re: Media Directors wont install
« on: September 09, 2007, 10:28:21 am »
On my current attempt at a HTPC, i have a
NETGEAR FA311/312 PCI Adapter


ps I am currently looking in to bootable PXE solutions such as etherboot. Will post how that goes.

Looks to me like you FA311/312 does not support PXE boot without the addition of a Boot ROM. See below for a possible supplier of these;

However it might be easier and less costly (thats just a guess on the cost front) to just buy a new NIC with PXE boot support on-board.


Users / Re: VIA Eden Mainboard compatability
« on: September 08, 2007, 02:01:34 am »

Just viewed a YouTube on LinuxMCE,  :o wow! I'm very keen to start going with the software, and this is the hardware I want to purchase (with reason):

- VIA C7 2.0Ghz
- VIA CN700 Chipset with Unichrome Pro Screencard
- 1 PCI slot
- VIA 1617A 6 channel Audio
- IEEE 1394, 8 USB 2.0 ports
- TV Out
- etc.

Is this hardware strong enough to drive the solution?

Any info is appreciated.


I guess it comes down to what you are looking for your lmce system to deliver. The architecture of an lmce system is build around a central Core which is the server for the system but can also have a screen/UI and  be used as a client simultaneously. Connected to your Core can be any number of Media Directors that are client machines (although they can have a local boot drive most people config their MD's to network or pxe boot from the Core).

Generally in most lmce systems the Core is a reasonably powerful AMD or Pentium processor, RAM and HD storage. The MD's can be less highly specc'd but as they are often delivering local media playback so are usually equipped with giid graphics cards and audio outputs. These MD's machines are often based on Via chipsets like those mentioned in your post.

It certainly would be possible to build a Core/Server machine around the Via motherboard you describe but depending on your type of usage you might find it lacks some performance if to support Media Playback in multiple MD or client machines.

Its worth a try though if you already have the hardware.

Hope this helps


Developers / Re: Updating UpdateMedia
« on: September 07, 2007, 04:59:16 pm »
I updated the ripping script to add genre, track, year information to ripped files.  I posted it and instructions for installing it here:

I understand it's been checked into the SVN server, so it should be part of the next release.  UpdateMedia does need some work however.  I was thinking about taking a crack at that next, but I'm currently working on Insteon integration, which is fairly involved, so if anyone wants to take a crack at UpdateMedia, go ahead.

Aaah yes I remember your post about that :-) I'll take a look at your script over the weekend.

The changes needed to UpdateMedia need to be made in the C++ sources though so we would need someone to take on the C coding there. Anyone interested?

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