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Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: November 02, 2010, 10:10:37 pm »
Thanks Richard. Are you able to send me a logcat of when you get the force close? I am not getting this problem on the simulator or my phone.

It should work out side the linuxMCE network ( although I havn't tried it ). Will try mine and let you know....

Edit: Just tried it from external and works OK. A bit slower than on the lan but I guess to be expected. Note that there is no security however. My core is my gateway so I just opened the 3461 port and set my touchorbiter to my dyndns address.

Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: November 01, 2010, 10:42:07 pm »
Sorry guys, usually stick it on filebin but it was down last night so I went with a couple of alternatives.

Try this one, it is taken from a backup of my phone. If there are problems will upload the proper one tonight.


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: November 01, 2010, 01:31:40 pm »
New version available

Please test. No known issues currently - I have fixed the problem with the threads not closing on rotation and also the first screen refresh problem. I also simplified a couple of areas.

Let me know how it goes. Also open to feature requests.


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 31, 2010, 11:45:54 am »
Yeah was planning to do some work on it this weekend but just turned the computer on for the first time Sunday night at 9:30pm and don't think I'll get much done tonight.

Should get some time tomorrow evening. What feature are you waiting on?


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 25, 2010, 11:22:10 pm »
Good stuff. Are you able to elaborate on the refresh problem. Under what circumstances do you need to refresh? I noticed a problem on first startup (which also applies to each time you rotate) but other than that it should be OK.

For screen scaling I coded it so that it scales the image received to the current resolution and fits the whole image on screen. This allows it to work for devices with different native resolutions and more importantly allows it to handle the resolution change when the device is rotated. Perhaps an option to not react to rotations (and stay in landscape) would be useful.

The other option is to not squeeze the whole image in, perhaps scale vertically and preserve the aspect ratio. Open to suggestions - perhaps they can all be menu options.

Keep up the testing, will try and keep the versions coming.


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 22, 2010, 03:28:40 pm »

New version to test. or

Should work on 2.x versions now. Havn't done anything about the screen size problems yet - can't seem to replicate.

There is a known issue with this version.
When the device is rotated it restarts the application - which is starting a new comms thread - but it seems like the old ones aren't finishing.
Will look at when I can - but doesn't affect functionality.

Let me know how tests go..


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 20, 2010, 06:02:59 am »
Just got my droidx and will be testing this if needed...


P.S. darrenmason Have you ever looked further into the android on the webdt? I have android 2.1 running but no touch screen functionality.

Hi Richard,
Regarding TouchOrbiter: It looks like I need to do some changes for both 2.1/2.2 - hope to have a new version by the end of the week. In the meantime give it a try - it may not work right now that's all.

Havn't done much regarding Android on the webdt lately. Sort of stopped because I was struggling with getting a reliable Wifi connection to work with the card I have in it.
I got the touchscreen working with a modified kernel so that should also be doable with 2.1 as well. Did you just use the Android-x86 image?
When I last tried 2.x there was a problem with the video performance that made the UI effectively unusable on the webdt. I have noticed that latest builds are supposed to fix that. What was the UI performance like? Might be time to put some more effort into it.
Additionally, when you ran 2.1 did your network card work? If so, which card is it - the airnet one? Also, did sound work. I am yet to see sound work but havn't investigated much as it was lower priority than network.


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 19, 2010, 04:45:35 am »
Quick Update... Still working on it. Definately a problem with 2.2 that I am able to replicate. The screen scaling issues you are getting I have not been able to replicate exactly yet but will keep trying.
Will try and get a new version soon....

Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 15, 2010, 05:07:55 am »
Will see if I can replicate your results in the emulator (using 2.2) - might just be related to different API.

I developed it using the 1.5 API so it would potentially be usable by all devices.

If I can't replicate then I will try and contact you more interactively to see if we can work out what is happening...

Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 14, 2010, 11:29:50 pm »
Thanks for the testing guys..

@gonesurfing: Your logcat looks like a normal startup - are you getting an image displayed? I can't see any touch events in the log. Are you able to interact with it or are you just getting a black screen. You have at least given me some important info that the ANYNEWS polling seems to be working (it doesn't work on my server - so I couldn't test it properly)
Please let me know what you are seeing/ not seeing etc... One interesting thing with your setup is that your device resolution is actually bigger than the image - it will therefore attempt to scale up rather than down - which I have not tested.

@wombiroller: You don't seem to be getting far at all. I will have to look into it further. I will try and setup a 2.2 emulator to see if I can replicate. Do you go on the IRC channel at all?

I will setup emulators for both of you to test on environments closer to yours.

FYI... The behaviour that you should be seeing is;

The orbiter image displayed almost immediately on startup scaled to fit the full screen of your device in the orientation it is currently in. Most phones will look better if you turn them horizontal.

The only menu option is the settings which allows you to set the server address and port of the lmce proxy_orbiter and the polling time for the ANYNEWS check (in millseconds).

It should reconnnect when connection is lost and display a popup error when connection can't be made.


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 13, 2010, 11:49:00 pm »

are you sure that you have the right port? I think the default for the first proxyorbiter is 3461

to find it go to admin then select show device tree, core->generic web device->generic proxy orbiter and then check the listen port in the device data.

You will need to restart the app after a settings change - which if you don't have an app killer might be easier to restart (or start lots of other apps)

Let me know how you go.

@aico you should be able to install on this device. The orbiter will not shutdown the tablet without a DCE device on the tablet itself


Users / Re: AUS HDHomerun EPG
« on: October 13, 2010, 11:38:52 pm »
There is a wrapper script available called shepard - which wraps a number of sources including oztivo (you still need an oztivo login though).

However I am not sure if this is still all active as I switched over to the over the air EPG quite some time ago. This does the job for FTA and even though it is only a few days ahead it updates regularly so if there is a late programming change then it will pick that up. (be careful not to have record in this timeslot used)

This works with all the DVB cards attached to the PC, I guess it should also work with the homerun


Users / Re: Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 12, 2010, 05:01:40 am »
Hi Adam,

Will try the dev channel and chat - might be hard to align time zones though.

What is the server side part that you have done? Are you setting up an explicit device for it?

I have tried to keep my version as dumbed down as possible. It will currently take whatever resolution image is thrown at it and scale it to the device that is running it, this was to minimise having to change the server side ProxyOrbiter config.

Really interested to see what you have done - is the apk or the source available?


Users / Android Touch Orbiter
« on: October 11, 2010, 02:21:13 pm »

Managed to get a little bit of time tonight so got to use my DEV machine. I thought I would make available a test version of Android Touch Orbiter so that some people can have a play/test.

Please download apk from or

It is still pretty raw but I have tested it on the emulator and my phone (HTC Tattoo). You will need to find the port number of your proxy orbiter which is available through the web admin screens. Port is set through the menu settings and you will need to kill the app to get the settings recognised.

Try and get the source attached to a trac or something whenever I get a moment but interested if this works for anyone and what issues are encountered.
Wil also try and write up some details in a wiki page.

If you are able to get logcat outputs then that would be good if you are reporting a problem.

Have fun

Users / Re: Apad orbiter?
« on: September 22, 2010, 05:04:22 am »
The Android touch orbiter is all but done - unfortunately when I fixed some of the threading stuff and added the ability to scroll around the picture I broke the bit that works out the touch co-ordinates. As soon as I get another couple of hours at home it should be ready for testing. (Possibly tomorrow night - dependant upon 2 yr old and 6 week old boys)

It would be good to have it tested on these devices as they are the main targets really....

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