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Maybe I'll try that first- don't have speakers hooked up to the core as that I basically use it headless anyways and I didnt' try to read her lips.  I'll try this first and then gadget's suggestion if no luck.


Thanks gadget, I'll give it a shot when I get home.

Thanks for the replies, but I don't think the issue is with the usb->serial adapter, I think the issue is with telling LMCE which adapter to use.  It seems like if I could go into some configuration file and replace what is there with "/dev/ttyUSB2" then I could select that from the drop down menu and go.  This seems to be what the serial hack wiki page is addressing.

Yes, this is 810 alpha 2.2something.
No, I don't have the skills not to duck-tape a solution.  Hopefully by documenting the steps required to complete what I'm doing, someone could turn that into a script so manual modifications are not required.

OK, as the title says I'm trying to get my usb to RS232 adapter to control my Denon AVR-2807. 

Here's what I know:
1) Purchased (2) usb to serial adapters from our favorite famous four letter market place (will provide details for anyone curious which ones I bought, $6.48 for 2 units shipped to US)
2) Connected Denon unit to core via cable

LMCE didn't seem to recognize that the cable had been connected and the receiver was not found when going through the Setup Wizard.

That said, played around with lsusb and found that linux was discovering that the cable was being connected.  Following that, I played with the ruby codes and surprisingly typing in the code:  "/usr/pluto/bin/TestSerialPort -p /dev/ttyUSB2 -P N81 -b 9600 -t "MVUP\r"" caused the receiver's volume to increase.

1) Receiver is controllable  (check)
2) usb to serial cable is compatible with LMCE (check)

Here's where I'm stuck.  As described here: my usb to serial device is being listed as a pci0000 something and not /dev/ttyUSB2.  After applying the hack, no devices are listed in the drop down menu, so I saved the backup file on top of the which gave me the list of available port.  When I try the only pci device not used (have one used by zwave and one used by usbuirt) it doesn't send a signal to the receiver.

So I went to this:

I Just want to give an update on my status with Insteon setup, the 7.10 with direct serial port to the hybrid worked without any problem first try, my LinuxMCE 810 Alpha 2.21 with USB2Serial adapter, now is working, with the following modifications:
1) changing default value of "#37 COM port on PC" to "/dev/ttyUSB0"
2) select "pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0+5" from the drop down list of the device data COM Port on PC
3) Created (for Plug n Play) per Wiki instructions

I attached the data exchanged between LinuxMCE with PLM module if someone interested.

from here:

I think if I could get past step 1 of ccousdi's post then everything would work. 

Retyping the questions:
1) How/where do I do step 1 above?
2) How do I test if it is working- if I select TV from the menu should the receiver change to input TV?  This doesn't seem to make sense as that the core has the tv tuners and I am really only going to want LMCE to change the volume on the receiver, turn it off and change the speakers that the audio is output to.

BTW, my house has the patio directly outside of the family room.  So I want to get a set of wireless speakers and change the media scenario in LMCE which causes the receiver to output to the wireless speakers and the speakers in the family room.  I'm hoping that any lag between the transmitter and receiver in the speakers is negligible and there will appear to be no sync issues.

Any suggestions or posts that I missed in the forums that talks about doing this?

Installation issues / Re: SOLVED: Generating orbiter screens loops
« on: June 19, 2009, 10:19:24 pm »
Good to hear you got things working.  710 is rock solid and 810 is too, with a few minor glitches that have been solved or I've learned to ignore such that I don't miss anything.

At a risk of getting shot, I run 4gb pc6300 ddr2 ram in my core.  Yes, it's considered overkill.  Yes, it's a 32bit machine so only 3.5 is recognized, but with either frys or newegg running 4 gig memory deals for $30 or less, why not?

As for the MDs, I think 256 is the minimum, but I've had trouble with this.  I had a Fujitsu B2545 touch screen laptop that I converted into a picture frame- I think Krys has some good illustrations of the way he did it.  But back to the point, this requires pc100 sodimm- I don't even think 512mb was made, and if so it is prohibitively expensive.  It worked excellent as an audio only MD to power the ceiling speakers in my kitchen.  For whatever reason, now with 810 I get a "failed to start X" error when the machine should get to Sarah.  I've looked into it a little, but gave up until 810 is official.

For me, with MDs, I run with whatever I have around- usually between 1gb and 2.

Installation issues / Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
« on: June 18, 2009, 06:00:17 pm »
As that it worked the first time, but has had problems since, can you run memtest86 for a couple hours?  Maybe you've got bad memory and by chance it didn't show up the first time, but since then you've hit a bad spot.

The memtest86 is already on one (probably all) of the disks that you burned and after a couple hours would tell you if that's the problem- worth a shot, right?

Installation issues / Re: WebDT Orbiter Generation Function/Bug??
« on: June 10, 2009, 06:01:29 am »
As a follow up to this, I added another MD to the system and when I started the 2 webdt's that registered as the same, they both started up with the "the device listed as xx is not correct do you wish to correct this" (obviously not the correct message, but those have been through it know what it says).

I needed the system tonight to show it off, so didn't try and register them as the same. 

Long story short, maybe the system will fix the problem given enough time...

Users / 810 Mythtv crashes only on Core
« on: June 07, 2009, 04:11:29 pm »
This may be what was experience and led to Trac #195:

I did a fresh 810 install and configured the Hauppauge PVR-150 on my M3A78-EM:

Whenever I click "TV" from the main screen the my loading bars will go to 100% each, then the screen will go black for 4 seconds after which time the cursor will appear (the single arrow, not the 4 arrow cursor) and 2 seconds after the UI screen will appear with the 4 arrow cursor hovering over the now playing box.

When I try to run mythtv from the desktop it errors out with a "segmentation fault (core dumped)"

When I went to "computing" "mythtv setup" "general" there was no Security Pin.  I entered "0000', but this does not seem to make any difference.

What I find even more odd is that mythtv works great on 2 other MDs.  There is only the one PVR-150 for the system and it is installed on the core.

Any ideas?

Installation issues / Re: WebDT Orbiter Generation Function/Bug??
« on: June 06, 2009, 08:24:17 am »
I thought I was A) Drunk or B) forgetful, but then completely redid my system with the latest alpha and got the same result (was too lazy to walk into the basement to reload the router and planned to do it with the new WebDT....)  That's how I rediscovered.

I have 2 more unconfigured webdts, and will try again tomorrow to obtain the same results. 

At the end of the day, however, I don't think we should (and by "we" I mean you, because I've had pascal, and that's about it) change it.  How many times are you going to be going around the house and turning on orbiters and configuring them as a bulk.  I do this with MDs when doing a new installation, but for a "off-the-shelf" product, how many end-users are going to be setting this system up from startup?

Drinking again tonight, so don't have a coherent argument other than the above, but there have to be reasons why allowing 2+  (haven't tried this with a third orbiter) orbiters to be essentially the same device?!?  Yes...  No....  ??

Installation issues / WebDT Orbiter Generation Function/Bug??
« on: June 06, 2009, 05:13:27 am »
Before posting on Trac, wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this:

If you boot a WebDT for the first time and go through the process you are eventually prompted to do a quick reboot before using the device.  If you complete the process (except the reload phase) and start another non-configured WebDT, the second WebDT's first displayed screen will ask you to reload the router rather than the WebDT configuration screens.  If you reboot at that point then both WebDTs will function as though they are the same- only one is registered under "orbiters" in the admin pages (I think it is the first one, but haven't gone to the effort of matching MAC addresses).  This maybe a problem for multiple reasons, but for me it's a problem because the orbiters are in different rooms and as that only one is listed under orbiters, only one room can be selected for display on startup (I have my orbiters default to the room they are in when they start).

There is a very simple fix- delete the listed orbiter in the admin pages and reload the WebDTs.  There maybe a reason for allowing several WebDTs to essentially be the same (redundancy or ????), but it seems to be a bug.

Any thoughts?

Developers / Re: New boot splash graphics
« on: June 03, 2009, 05:34:15 pm »
Thom made a great looking one for the WebDTs, is there any reason not to be consistent across the core/MDs/orbiters?

Feature requests & roadmap / Re: Suport for other ditros?
« on: May 27, 2009, 05:50:00 am »
I'm not sure what all you're trying to do, but my GF runs the win orbiter on her vista box- can increase the volume of the playing song, turn off the music, etc by opening an orbiter on her desktop (just timed it, takes about 5 seconds from a double click to be a functional orbiter).  An orbiter is not a MD- she can't play music or videos on her machine, but can control the MDs/core like any other orbiter.  Then, when she has want she wants, she can close the orbiter and open a browser or whatever.

Also, if you put your media on a NAS (maybe even on the core, but haven't tried this) you can access your media using your favorite program and play the media as though LMCE wasn't there- for those times that you don't have a MD in the room. 

I don't know what OS's the orbiters support- as it so happens I'm having trouble dling the win orbiter from 810, but that's another matter.  It would seem to me that building a orbiter that fits your desired OS would be a lot easier and less time consuming than trying to port LMCE to a different OS, but I'm not a programmer and certainly not trying to discourage anyone from expanding LMCE.

Users / Re: MCV zwave and 810 alpha2
« on: May 27, 2009, 01:04:13 am »
I experienced the same and yes, rebooting seems to fix the problem.  I've noticed, however, that even after configured (installing then rebooting) that if the MCV stick is removed from the USB to program another light and then plugged back in to the computer it still says failed to start.

Basically, I've found that whenever I do anything to the MCV z-wave stick that requires removal from the usb slot, I need to reboot the core with the MCV stick in the usb slot.  Adding the stick after a reboot yields the same "failed to start message".


if libdvdcss is installed on the core, each subsequent MD creation will contain the libdvdcss as well.

Is this new in 810?  710 was/is not like this- I don't have to tell you, but you have to install it on each MD.  Will 810 copy over the addons you install on the core over to newly created MDs or is this an alpha thing that will be changed later?

... and if libdvdcss2 wasn't (on the core and MD) don't forget the other packages. (w32codecs or w64codecs (on 710 64 bit) and the other I can'y remember of the top of my head but the wizard asks if you want all three.  They have to be selected and are checked when loaded.


810 doesn't yet- at least on mine.  Unlike 710, you cannot select those from the list during the setup and have them installed, you have to to it manually.  There is another post about logging into a MD as the root- I wonder if he/she was trying to install the software directly on the MD rather than go through the core.  I ran into this myself and eventually just went the /usr/pluto/diskless/moon ## way to get done on the MDs what I needed done from the core.

BTW- even if libdvdcss2 is installed on the core, it must be installed on the MD that you want to watch an encrypted DVD on.  That is to say, that if you installed libdvdcss2 on the core, but not a MD, and put a DVD in the MD's DVD player you will get a similar response to what you (speedyone) experienced- the screen would blip black for a moment and then kick back to the main screen.  Usually (maybe every time) a message is displayed in the upper left hand corner stating that the dvd is unreadable or something isn't installed.  FWIW.

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