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Users / OMG, why do you make this so difficult?
« on: August 21, 2011, 02:01:19 am »
I know this is free software and you all put in a lot of time, BUT...
You really should warn people that this is very unstable, inconsistent, and difficult software BEFORE they waste time downloading and installing this LinuxMCE.
There are some really wonderful things in LinuxMCE that I would love to use, but can’t even get the installation/AVwizard to complete consistently without errors. I have wasted untold number of hours doing repeated installations following severely out of date Wiki instructions. I have had inconsistent results doing the exact same install. How can that be?
I know that my post will almost certainly be deleted. I hope you read all the way through before doing so.
I have read through the forums and found people who have had the same issues that I have had, and on many, no one has responded with help. I guess that poor sole gave up like I'm doing too. I have read the Wiki entries which are so far out of date, it's laughable. I read where someone is seeking help and some other moron suggests that they use the 10.04 – which is even more unstable than 8.04 and isn’t even available on the download page. What is it with this stuff?
There are multiple 8.04 versions to install, but you have to dig through forum posts to know which one to install. Install the wrong one and you waste even more time! Couldn’t the download page just say which one is stable? Is it really that complex?
The software hangs at different points especially background tasks during the AVWizard. Speaking of the AVWizard, why on earth do the background tasks display their status right on top of the AVWizard? Do you know how difficult it is to read the top of the page?
Why can’t the AVWizard just be something the user clicks on (same with the Admin interface?) Why do they have to be background started processes? After you get Ubuntu installed, you have to click (or incorrectly double-click as the install Wiki pages tells you) on the LinuxMCE icon (why isn’t it called LinuxMCE Install which would be more obvious.)
It’s pretty obvious to me that when you are doing builds, no one is actually following a checklist which includes following the installation instructions to make sure they still are correct. I’m sure that most of you are so deep into LinuxMCE that you never follow any of the Wiki. Why aren’t there installation instructions on the download page?
Why do you have to make this so difficult? My God, I have never, ever seen such out of date stuff in my life. 8.04 isn’t even released and Ubuntu 8.04 is so far out of support. Why even release 8.04? Put all of your energy into 10.04!
I would really love to help, but I fear that I would waste even more time out of my life and still not get anywhere. I have past UNIX/Linux experience, but I pity the poor fool who has none as still struggles through to a fruitless end!
I love it when someone has a question and someone else points them to user Wiki pages to see who else uses a particular piece of hardware. You can tell these other folks must have given up because their installation Wiki pages haven’t been changed in 5 years.
I’m really trying to not be as critical as I feel I should. You are all so proud and put out suspicious videos on YouTube showing how easy it is to install. IT’S NOT! Anytime anyone dares to make a critical suggestion, they get dumped on – “did you pay anything for this?” Of course not, we all know that if someone actually put out good money for this, there would be a lawsuit for sure using the YouTube videos of evidence of fraud.
I understand that with all of the complexities coupled with lots of types of hardware, it makes it very difficult. You really should tell people to forget using any advanced video card, just stick with VGA until you get it all working.
You really should warn people that this is very unstable, inconsistent, and difficult software BEFORE they waste time downloading and installing this LinuxMCE.
There are some really wonderful things in LinuxMCE that I would love to use, but can’t even get the installation/AVwizard to complete consistently without errors. I have wasted untold number of hours doing repeated installations following severely out of date Wiki instructions. I have had inconsistent results doing the exact same install. How can that be?
I know that my post will almost certainly be deleted. I hope you read all the way through before doing so.
I have read through the forums and found people who have had the same issues that I have had, and on many, no one has responded with help. I guess that poor sole gave up like I'm doing too. I have read the Wiki entries which are so far out of date, it's laughable. I read where someone is seeking help and some other moron suggests that they use the 10.04 – which is even more unstable than 8.04 and isn’t even available on the download page. What is it with this stuff?
There are multiple 8.04 versions to install, but you have to dig through forum posts to know which one to install. Install the wrong one and you waste even more time! Couldn’t the download page just say which one is stable? Is it really that complex?
The software hangs at different points especially background tasks during the AVWizard. Speaking of the AVWizard, why on earth do the background tasks display their status right on top of the AVWizard? Do you know how difficult it is to read the top of the page?
Why can’t the AVWizard just be something the user clicks on (same with the Admin interface?) Why do they have to be background started processes? After you get Ubuntu installed, you have to click (or incorrectly double-click as the install Wiki pages tells you) on the LinuxMCE icon (why isn’t it called LinuxMCE Install which would be more obvious.)
It’s pretty obvious to me that when you are doing builds, no one is actually following a checklist which includes following the installation instructions to make sure they still are correct. I’m sure that most of you are so deep into LinuxMCE that you never follow any of the Wiki. Why aren’t there installation instructions on the download page?
Why do you have to make this so difficult? My God, I have never, ever seen such out of date stuff in my life. 8.04 isn’t even released and Ubuntu 8.04 is so far out of support. Why even release 8.04? Put all of your energy into 10.04!
I would really love to help, but I fear that I would waste even more time out of my life and still not get anywhere. I have past UNIX/Linux experience, but I pity the poor fool who has none as still struggles through to a fruitless end!
I love it when someone has a question and someone else points them to user Wiki pages to see who else uses a particular piece of hardware. You can tell these other folks must have given up because their installation Wiki pages haven’t been changed in 5 years.
I’m really trying to not be as critical as I feel I should. You are all so proud and put out suspicious videos on YouTube showing how easy it is to install. IT’S NOT! Anytime anyone dares to make a critical suggestion, they get dumped on – “did you pay anything for this?” Of course not, we all know that if someone actually put out good money for this, there would be a lawsuit for sure using the YouTube videos of evidence of fraud.
I understand that with all of the complexities coupled with lots of types of hardware, it makes it very difficult. You really should tell people to forget using any advanced video card, just stick with VGA until you get it all working.