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Users / Re: Strange orbiter error in web interface
« on: June 02, 2008, 08:51:18 pm »
You know, I'm taking this much too personally.  Sorry about that -- I guess having a crashed core got me a bit emotional.  Mea culpa.

I didn't touch the database manually.  I ran one script,  That's it.  Everything that followed happened as a result of running that one script.

As for the shout, I guess I wasn't getting my own point across very well -- that this one action caused everything which followed and I was simply asking for guidance in how to best proceed from those who have more linuxmce experience than me rather than plunging in blindly and causing more problems.

The only mucking about I did manually were the steps I took to restore things back the way they were.

So, how is one supposed to perform an upgrade using the gutsy-upgrade-scripts package?

Users / Re: Strange orbiter error in web interface
« on: June 02, 2008, 08:12:55 pm »
The update caused my system to be corrupt.  Did you read that last post or are you just so convinced that I must be an ignoramus that you can't be bothered?

Manually reverting everything back to the pre-upgrade state has resulted in a perfectly functioning 0704 system again.  I repeat:  THE UPGRADE CAUSED MY PROBLEM, IT DIDN'T RESULT FROM A CORRUPT SYSTEM!

Installation issues / Re: Web upgrade doesn't complete -- next steps?
« on: June 02, 2008, 07:23:41 pm »
Resolved the problem.  See Install thread for details.

Users / Re: Strange orbiter error in web interface
« on: June 02, 2008, 07:22:28 pm »
By the way, there was no problem in my database -- but one of the scripts that produced the page for the admin interface had been bollixed by the crashed install and thus I was seeing what was referenced below.  Everything now works as intended and I'm going to seriously rethink my approach to upgrading this time.

So the "minor detail" wasn't in any way the cause of the problem but was, in fact, another symptom.  So you're right, I should have mentioned it.  But it wasn't the cause....

As for running random scripts, I ran the prepare script, which in the case of an Internet download has no code that refers to rebooting to continue the upgrade -- that code is under the DVD branch of the if.  I naturally assumed I'd have to take manual steps to start the upgrade.


Users / Re: Strange orbiter error in web interface
« on: June 02, 2008, 07:06:14 pm »
Just to close the topic --

1.  I logged on via a Kubuntu live CD.
2.  I gathered a list of all the .pbackup files on the system and moved every one of them to the non-pbackup name:
     # find . -name "*.pbackup" > ~/
     modified the above file so that each line was of the form:  mv file.pbackup file
     executed the above file.
3.  This allowed the box to reboot, and only minimal intervention was required to restore the network configuration back to where it worked again.

Users / Re: Strange orbiter error in web interface
« on: June 02, 2008, 04:26:31 pm »
I didn't actually mean to start the update.  I ran (or whatever the script name was; it ended in prepare) and that was all.  When I rebooted the core, it just started the process on its own.  Maybe that's as intended, but given the lack of documentation for the upgrade package, the "prepare" file led me to believe (and a cursory read of the script itself confirmed) that it would just download the needed files.  I had thought it'd be up to me to start the actual upgrade at a convenient time.

I may have done this to myself, but it wasn't at all my intention.  And I'm surprised that the scripts would have started modifying files without first ensuring that all the downloads were in place and intact!

(That's not a slam, just a slight critique).


Installation issues / Web upgrade doesn't complete -- next steps?
« on: June 02, 2008, 05:03:40 am »
I attempted to upgrade my 0704 installation to 0710 via the web.  Unfortunately, after several reboots during the process, my core has a bunch of empty files in /etc and other directories (making this particularly knotty, /etc/passwd is one of the empty files) and keeps trying to continue the failed upgrade each time I reboot it.

I'd like to get back to my functioning 0704 before re-attempting the upgrade from DVD this time.  I think I can handle writing a find command to replace all the files with their *.pbackup versions, but how do I stop the incessant upgrade process given that I'm going to have to do all this from a live CD?

I also seem to have a corrupt mysql database, as I can no longer access the orbiter page via the admin web interface.  Will this be solved by the upgrade, or is there an easy way to regenerate the proper table contents?

Also, when I do the upgrade, is it safe to leave my data drives attached, or is there a chance that these disks would be wiped out by the installer?  What if I just do a new install of 0710 over my 0704?

That's a lot of questions, but I'm willing to work at this.  Thanks!


Installation issues / Re: Upgrading from the web with the script...
« on: June 01, 2008, 10:47:27 pm »
I tried this method too, and after an unplanned reboot, some of the upgrade started but didn't complete, and I now have an unuseable 0704 installation.  Many files were replaced (the .pbackup versions are there, but passwd is one of the altered files, and even trying to boot single-user doesn't work!) and I'm honesty not sure what to do next to get this all fixed.  The box boots, but doesn't do anything and isn't in a state where I can even get in and start poking around.  I found the .pbackup files by using a Kubuntu live cd -- am I going to have to manually replace all of these to get back where I was?

Any ideas?  Please?  Since this box was the core of my network, none of my machines that were using it for DHCP are booting properly and it's just one of those failures that impacts the whole network, entertainment and otherwise.

I am downloading the amd64 DL DVD image, but it looks like it'll be at least another 24-48 hours for that to complete (why wasn't it given a torrent, by the by?)



Users / Strange orbiter error in web interface
« on: June 01, 2008, 05:50:11 am »
I've just started getting this error when navigating to the orbiter page in pluto-admin:

Fatal error: mysql error: [1030: Got error 28 from storage engine] in EXECUTE(" SELECT IF(FK_DeviceCategory=2,'mobile_orbiters',IF(Device.FK_DeviceTemplate=62,'on_screen_orbiters','standard_roaming_orbiters')) AS OrbiterGroup, Device.*, DeviceTemplate.Description AS TemplateName, DeviceCategory.Description AS CategoryName, FK_DeviceCategory, Manufacturer.Description AS ManufacturerName, IsIPBased, RegenInProgress,RegenStatus,RegenPercent, DeviceData.Description AS ddDescription, ParameterType.Description AS typeParam, Device_DeviceData.IK_DeviceData, Device_DeviceData.FK_DeviceData, ShowInWizard, ShortDescription, AllowedToModify, DeviceTemplate_DeviceData.Description AS Tooltip FROM Device INNER JOIN DeviceTemplate ON Device.FK_DeviceTemplate=PK_DeviceTemplate INNER JOIN DeviceCategory ON FK_DeviceCategory=PK_DeviceCategory INNER JOIN Manufacturer ON FK_Manufacturer=PK_Manufacturer L in /var/www/pluto-admin/include/adodb/ on line 77

I noticed that my remote orbiter on my laptop suddenly stopped working and my core had trouble rebooting.  It was when I went to check it on the admin site that I discovered the above problem.

I've no idea what happened to corrupt my database, but is there any easy way to fix this?  Would upgrading to 0710 take care of it (I'm running 0704 right now)?


Bret Wortman

Users / Re: Extra file pointers in database - how to remove?
« on: February 08, 2008, 03:41:30 am »
I can't navigate to them that way (believe me, I tried), I think because the paths are like "./movies/file.avi" and I haven't figured out how to get them to show up in the media files sync pages.  I expect this is going to take some SQL code and I just don't want to do things halfway and completely bollocks the database....


Users / Extra file pointers in database - how to remove?
« on: February 07, 2008, 02:13:24 am »
I tried to force some updating in my database by manually running the UpdateMedia script, but I passed it a directory string beginning with a dot ("."), and now these (and other) files are lingering in my database and I can't delete them through the usual Orbiter menu mechanisms.

Any thoughts on how to remove these?  Thanks!


Installation issues / Re: Other ways to change UI1 to UI2?
« on: January 15, 2008, 02:02:17 am »
You might be able to change it through the Admin interface -- change the settings under Orbiters and pick the one you want.  It appears that on my system, at least, these values are all set elsewhere and aren't modifiable through the web interface, but YMMV.

Installation issues / Re: Other ways to change UI1 to UI2?
« on: January 14, 2008, 04:55:41 pm »
I should have realized the number keys were my answer.  I have no plea other than foolishness.

Thanks for the pointers and gentleness!  It worked like a champ....


Installation issues / Other ways to change UI1 to UI2?
« on: January 10, 2008, 02:59:00 am »
I've got a MD PC attached to a TV in a room where there's no easy way to get a VGA monitor to it.  By the same token, if I move it to my office, there's no easy way to get an sVideo cable connected to it and a TV.  To change from UI1 to UI2, the only way I know to do it is to re-invoke the wizard, but that requires both VGA and, after I tell it to switch to sVideo, ... sVideo.  Is there another way (I'm not afraid of command-line) to tell the MD to switch to UI2?


Bret Wortman

Users / Re: Incorrect free space on samba-shared drives under windows xp
« on: December 19, 2007, 02:59:38 pm »
Actually, I think this is due to a reflection of the free space on /, not the specific drive and may just be part of how LMCE shares these devices out.  If I find a workaround, I'll post it.

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