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Title: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on October 19, 2009, 03:04:37 pm
hey,

i want to buy a Dlink DNS-323 NAS for my lmce (810). My Question is: Can i run my core 24/7 and turn the NAS on when i want to watch the movies on them and after watching turning it off or has the NAS also be online 24/7?

thanks.
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: pigdog on October 19, 2009, 03:12:32 pm
Yes.  You can turn it off&on.
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: Kooma on October 19, 2009, 03:20:56 pm
Another question related:
Does one need to buy a dedicated NAS, or can one just use two additional disks in RAID mode installed in the core? To me, this was an idea that partly justified starting a long building process of a full LMCE system.
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on October 19, 2009, 03:29:36 pm
cool. thank you for the quick answer. :)

i now use 1 disk for the lmce system and another four disks for my videos (in the core, but without RAID). The reason why i want to buy a NAS is, i want to build a smaller Core...
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: pigdog on October 19, 2009, 03:55:54 pm
Hi Kooma,

You can add disks to the Core as well.

Each approach, NAS or Core has their own set of merits/detractions.
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on November 05, 2009, 02:30:53 pm
hey,

i just bought the DLink DNS-323, installed it and everything works fine. But can i connect my laptop (externeal network 10.10.0.*) to the Nas (internal lmce-network 192.168.80.*)?? I wan't to have lmce use the volume_1 and the other pc's in the external network the volume_2 for backups.

thanks
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: tschak909 on November 05, 2009, 03:16:25 pm
Why do you guys make this so bloody difficult?

Just merge everything onto a single network.

hmm.

*bites-his-tongue-so-he-doesn't-rip-all-you-control-freak-geeks-a-new-one*

-Thom
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on November 05, 2009, 03:41:50 pm
thom, sometimes it must be difficult....  ;) no, the reason is, i must use two different networks. i know it would be much easier when i only have one network...

Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: Thingie on November 09, 2009, 02:24:58 pm
hey,

i just bought the DLink DNS-323, installed it and everything works fine. But can i connect my laptop (externeal network 10.10.0.*) to the Nas (internal lmce-network 192.168.80.*)?? I wan't to have lmce use the volume_1 and the other pc's in the external network the volume_2 for backups.

thanks


For my work I have to install a lot of networks with different IP-ranges and they still have to communicate with each other. To solve this problem we use Netopia routers. In the router you can define additional subnets which allows different IP-ranges to communicate with each other. This means that if you have for example a network 192.168.80.* and one 192.168.1.* you can define in the router how these two networks communicate with each other. It's even possible to let the PC in the 192.168.80.* range talk directly with the pc in the 192.168.1.* range. Multiple subnets are possible. I suppose there are other manufacturers who have this option in their routers, but I only know of Netopia.

http://www.netopia.com (http://www.netopia.com)

hope this helps for all the guys with their special network setups.

grtz

Thingie
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on November 09, 2009, 02:36:57 pm
hi Thingie,


thank you for the info.

avajon
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: colinjones on November 09, 2009, 09:30:11 pm
Avajon - why "must" you use two different networks? I see nothing in your post that suggests the reason. Before you respond, please read every word in - http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Network_Setup then explain why this doesn't work for you.

Thingie - I don't follow the point of your post. Moving traffic between different subnets is routing. Any device that didn't do this would not be a router! So what has Netopia got to do with anything? And what is wrong with the LMCE Core? It is a router too! And just like every other router in existance, it could route the traffic from the external network to the internal network, if you so desired, and were prepared to poke swiss-cheese holes in the Core's firewall. But that misses the point, as per the link above, everything you want to communicate with each other should be on the same network. And in normal circumstances there are no reasons not to do this.
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on November 10, 2009, 10:07:56 am
hi colinjones,

i know the core is also a router and i read the Network_Setup Wiki Page. The reason why i must use two different networks is: my core isn't online everytime, so i have to use my wlan-router for my external network, so all the laptops (wife's laptop also) have internet - also when the core is offline...

By the way, i have managed the routes and everything works now as expected. thank you to everyone.

avajon
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: colinjones on November 10, 2009, 01:07:36 pm
is your broadband router on all the time?? then why not your core? a fundamental design principle of LMCE is that the core IS on all the time... it should not be turned off, so that it can do its job ... if you allowed it to perform as it is supposed to, then you would never have had this issue. if power consumption is an issue, then it is very easy to build an ultra-low-power core, so that this isn't an issue... realistically there isn't a reason why you "must" turn your core off, it is a preference, and I believe an ill-advised choice. rethink your strategy and you will have an easier life :)
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on November 10, 2009, 01:23:08 pm
yeah power consumption is the issue - i also want to build a ultra low power core, but it's expensive... :)
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: colinjones on November 10, 2009, 08:56:57 pm
Have you considered using one of the new Atom 330/ION platforms? Add a second NIC using a USB device, and you'll have a viable Hybrid, with low power consumption for less than 300 Euro http://geizhals.at/a475769.html (if I was able to speak German, I could probably find a cheaper version still!)
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on November 11, 2009, 09:47:31 am
i thought i could use the atom 330/ion platform for media directors and not for hybrid?? Is the cpu strong enough for a core???
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: colinjones on November 11, 2009, 12:08:59 pm
For almost all purposes, yes! LMCE doesn't really require a huge amount of power to run. For most people the core really only runs a few extra heavy duty tasks such as MySQL and UpdateMedia, and these are not going to overly tax a dual core Atom. Most of the other extra stuff is lightweight and not "real time" anyway, meaning if they are running slower than ideal, you won't really notice anyway. Most of the heavy duty stuff is GPU work for media, and ION is more than sufficient. These things have been discussed before on the forums (I believe that Andrew's team has done some testing) and the general consensus is it will be fine. If you go ahead, make sure you post feedback (here and on the wiki). Just make sure you have at least 1GB RAM and a HDD that is large enough to deal with the OS plus any MD images you intend to run.
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: avajon on November 11, 2009, 12:11:32 pm
thanks for the detailed info. sure, if i buy it i will post my feedback with it!
Title: Re: Question about DLink DNS-323
Post by: nite_man on November 11, 2009, 04:45:59 pm
I'm using DNS-321 with LinuxMCE. But it's up 24/7 because there a torrent client runs. LinuxMCE has annoying problem. Time to time it loses external storage such NAS or USB. As result you cannot access your media there during  a few minutes. So, if your NAS will be switched on after core you couldn't see your media on the Orbiter immediately. At least I have such problem on my 0710 hybrid/core.

Regarding DNS-323 itself. It's ok more or less. But noisy a bit. And it's impossible to find small quiet fan.