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Title: SOLVED: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 16, 2009, 11:16:55 am
Okay, i was hoping i wouldnt have to use the forum but i'm out of options i gues. i searched google, wiki pages and this forum but i cant find a post thats the same as my problem.

Last week i started using LinuxMCE. First install (with the 710 8gb dvd) went just fine. No hickups of any kind. It was my first install and got a lot of video files and mp3 files i didnt want in my mce box so i did a reinstall with the 710 3.9gb dvd. DVD copy and audio video wizard all went fine. After the avw mce tries to start the router and wants to generate the orbiter screens. stage 1 just went fine, stage 2 doesnt. in stage to it gets to 1%, the next time it gets to 69% but never till 100% and a black screen with "I cannot read the orbiter configuration" and that it wil regenerate in 15-30 min. i just juggled with the single and dual layer dvd but didnt got a working mce.

This weekend i let it just generate the orbiter over night and in the morning i had a lovely woman telling me to give her my name  ??? The linuxmce box worked fine but when i wanted to create a new orbiter i again got stuck in the generating of the orbiter time after time. so i did a reinstall. and again i got stuck in the messages:

"I cannot read the orbiter configuration"
and
"I will try to regenerate, this takes 15-30 min"

my pc configuration"

A7N8X-E Deluxe
AMD 3200 XP+
GeForce 6200 (256MB) AGP

Any help would be great. im not a linux n00b, just not to familiar with umbuntu. normaly i use opensuse or suse linux

some log of OrbiterGen.log:

Code: [Select]
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.657 const 0x98a89a0 5362 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.657 Generating screen: 5362 ver: 21/Y room: 0 ea: 0, orb: 20 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.658 Regenerating:  cached screen not in DB <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.670 const 0x98aa058 5100 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.671 const 0x98aa600 5103 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.671 const 0x98ab250 5106 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.672 const 0x98abec0 5109 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.672 const 0x98acb08 5270 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.672 const 0x98ad750 5268 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.673 const 0x98ae3c0 5271 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.673 const 0x98af030 5363 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.676 const 0x98afca0 5101 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.679 const 0x98b0c48 5101 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.682 obj: 5103 regen cache 0 A31 NULL <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.683 const 0x98b2070 5104 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.686 const 0x98b3168 5263 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.688 const 0x98b42a8 5107 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.690 const 0x98b50e0 5112 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.693 const 0x98b61d8 5113 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.696 const 0x98b7070 5262 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.699 const 0x98b8248 5098 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.699 obj: 5262 regen cache 1 A13 0 NULL NULL <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.758 WARNING! No variation for style: 7 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.759 WARNING! No variation for style: 8 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.759 WARNING! No variation for style: 9 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.760 WARNING! No variation for style: 10 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.760 WARNING! No variation for style: 11 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.761 WARNING! No variation for style: 12 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.793 Warning!  Text Object: 1719 no text <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.843 Rendering screen 1255.0.0 in 20 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:39.353 Generation started <0xb5b026e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:39.359 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5b026e0>
05 06/16/09 2:12:39.359 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143559 <0xb5b026e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:39.359 skipping <0xb5b026e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:01.232 Generation started <0xb5af26e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:01.238 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5af26e0>
05 06/16/09 2:13:01.238 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143581 <0xb5af26e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:01.238 skipping <0xb5af26e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:31.527 Generation started <0xb5ac66e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:31.532 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5ac66e0>
05 06/16/09 2:13:31.533 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143611 <0xb5ac66e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:31.533 skipping <0xb5ac66e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:04.344 Generation started <0xb5b826e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:04.349 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5b826e0>
05 06/16/09 2:14:04.354 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143644 <0xb5b826e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:04.354 skipping <0xb5b826e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:37.288 Generation started <0xb5ab96e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:37.294 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5ab96e0>
05 06/16/09 2:14:37.294 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143677 <0xb5ab96e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:37.294 skipping <0xb5ab96e0>
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 16, 2009, 01:08:44 pm
by the way, i also see a lot of SpawnDaemon_RegenOrbiterOnTheFly.sh####.log files

Code: [Select]
tail: Warning: "+number" syntax is deprecated, please use "-n +number"
1       06/16/09 03:26:44       /usr/pluto/bin/RegenOrbiterOnTheFly.sh (server) ^[[1;00mGenerating Orbiter on the fly nr. 20^[[1;00m
3       06/16/09 03:26:44       /usr/pluto/bin/RegenOrbiterOnTheFly.sh (server) ^[[1;31mFailed to generate Orbiter nr. 20^[[1;00m

and there is a 20_LaunchOrbiter.sh.log with a lot of xerror events:

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========== NEW LOG SECTION ==========
1 06/16/09 03:50:01 20 (spawning-device) Starting... 2
1 06/16/09 03:50:01 20 (spawning-device) Found /usr/pluto/bin/LaunchOrbiter.sh
05 06/16/09 3:50:11.996 will overwrite wm window id // void X11wrapper::Assign_WmWindow(Window) <0xb5f2cb90>
05 06/16/09 3:50:11.998 Using masked UI? YES <0xb5f2cb90>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.357 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.359 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.359 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.359 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.359 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.359 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
--> more of the same here i cut out
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.397 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.398 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.398 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.399 Xlib: ErrorHandler_Grabber() // static int X11wrapper::ErrorHandler_Grabber(Display*, XErrorEvent*) <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.503 Orbiter reloading... <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.503 Orbiter quiting... <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.503 Got an on quit.  Pushing an event into SDL <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.503 Got an on quit.  Pushing an event into SDL <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:37.503 void ClientSocket::Disconnect() on this socket: 0x83fdd10 (m_Socket: 17) <0xb67ac6e0>
01 06/16/09 3:50:37.505 Directory: C20/ doesn't contain the orbiter's .info file.  Requesting files from the server. <0xb67ac6e0>
01 06/16/09 3:50:37.506 Unable to get Orbiter data <0xb67ac6e0>
05 06/16/09 3:50:38.105 Socket::ReceiveData m_Socket 14 m_bQuit_get()1 <0xb4e04b90>
05 06/16/09 3:50:38.105 Socket::ReceiveString2 ReceiveData failed m_Socket: 14 Command_Impl1 Dev #20 <0xb4e04b90>
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 16, 2009, 04:23:34 pm
i installed the nvidia driver - no luck
i run dpkg --configure -a and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (dont know why but found it on the forum) - no luck

Question: do i NEED to install the nvidia driver or is it optional?

Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: totallymaxed on June 16, 2009, 04:38:32 pm
Okay, i was hoping i wouldnt have to use the forum but i'm out of options i gues. i searched google, wiki pages and this forum but i cant find a post thats the same as my problem.

Last week i started using LinuxMCE. First install (with the 710 8gb dvd) went just fine. No hickups of any kind. It was my first install and got a lot of video files and mp3 files i didnt want in my mce box so i did a reinstall with the 710 3.9gb dvd. DVD copy and audio video wizard all went fine. After the avw mce tries to start the router and wants to generate the orbiter screens. stage 1 just went fine, stage 2 doesnt. in stage to it gets to 1%, the next time it gets to 69% but never till 100% and a black screen with "I cannot read the orbiter configuration" and that it wil regenerate in 15-30 min. i just juggled with the single and dual layer dvd but didnt got a working mce.

This weekend i let it just generate the orbiter over night and in the morning i had a lovely woman telling me to give her my name  ??? The linuxmce box worked fine but when i wanted to create a new orbiter i again got stuck in the generating of the orbiter time after time. so i did a reinstall. and again i got stuck in the messages:

"I cannot read the orbiter configuration"
and
"I will try to regenerate, this takes 15-30 min"

my pc configuration"

A7N8X-E Deluxe
AMD 3200 XP+
GeForce 6200 (256MB) AGP

Any help would be great. im not a linux n00b, just not to familiar with umbuntu. normaly i use opensuse or suse linux

some log of OrbiterGen.log:

Code: [Select]
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.657 const 0x98a89a0 5362 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.657 Generating screen: 5362 ver: 21/Y room: 0 ea: 0, orb: 20 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.658 Regenerating:  cached screen not in DB <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.670 const 0x98aa058 5100 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.671 const 0x98aa600 5103 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.671 const 0x98ab250 5106 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.672 const 0x98abec0 5109 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.672 const 0x98acb08 5270 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.672 const 0x98ad750 5268 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.673 const 0x98ae3c0 5271 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.673 const 0x98af030 5363 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.676 const 0x98afca0 5101 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.679 const 0x98b0c48 5101 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.682 obj: 5103 regen cache 0 A31 NULL <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.683 const 0x98b2070 5104 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.686 const 0x98b3168 5263 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.688 const 0x98b42a8 5107 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.690 const 0x98b50e0 5112 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.693 const 0x98b61d8 5113 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.696 const 0x98b7070 5262 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.699 const 0x98b8248 5098 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.699 obj: 5262 regen cache 1 A13 0 NULL NULL <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.758 WARNING! No variation for style: 7 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.759 WARNING! No variation for style: 8 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.759 WARNING! No variation for style: 9 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.760 WARNING! No variation for style: 10 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.760 WARNING! No variation for style: 11 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.761 WARNING! No variation for style: 12 <0xb5b096e0>
01 06/16/09 2:12:23.793 Warning!  Text Object: 1719 no text <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:23.843 Rendering screen 1255.0.0 in 20 <0xb5b096e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:39.353 Generation started <0xb5b026e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:39.359 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5b026e0>
05 06/16/09 2:12:39.359 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143559 <0xb5b026e0>
10 06/16/09 2:12:39.359 skipping <0xb5b026e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:01.232 Generation started <0xb5af26e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:01.238 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5af26e0>
05 06/16/09 2:13:01.238 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143581 <0xb5af26e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:01.238 skipping <0xb5af26e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:31.527 Generation started <0xb5ac66e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:31.532 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5ac66e0>
05 06/16/09 2:13:31.533 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143611 <0xb5ac66e0>
10 06/16/09 2:13:31.533 skipping <0xb5ac66e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:04.344 Generation started <0xb5b826e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:04.349 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5b826e0>
05 06/16/09 2:14:04.354 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143644 <0xb5b826e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:04.354 skipping <0xb5b826e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:37.288 Generation started <0xb5ab96e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:37.294 Locking orbiter before Generating 20 <0xb5ab96e0>
05 06/16/09 2:14:37.294 *****SEEMS THIS ORBITER IS BEING GENERATED 1245143559 now 1245143677 <0xb5ab96e0>
10 06/16/09 2:14:37.294 skipping <0xb5ab96e0>

Hmmm...well since you got a 'good' install from your original DVD iso... iw ould suggest going back to that one and reinstalling again. Maybe the 2nd iso is damaged or incomplete in some way.

All the best

Andrew
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 16, 2009, 05:47:09 pm
The original DVD that worked the first time didn't work the 2nd and 3th and 4th time :( would it matter that I use a rewritable DVD to burn the ISO on, could that be a problem?
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 17, 2009, 08:13:48 am
Last night i tried again with the first iso dvd ... After installation i got the same "I cannot read orbiter configuration" message. I did the dpkg --configure -a and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. that was a little succes. stage 1 and stage 2 completed for generating the orbiter screens but afterwards it directly wanted to regenerate te screens with the same cannot read message.

So i installed the nvidia drivers of nvidia.com and now it just loops in a black screen with the message "Your resolution has changed, i'll try to regenerate your orbiter" followed by a message it wil take 15-30 minutes ...

i tried al the UI options in the AVW.

I still dont want to give up because i think its a verry cool system if it works. Can anybody give me some advise in how to install. What would be the best to do? Install of a DVD or install a umbuntu distribution and manualy install linuxmce?
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 17, 2009, 08:43:36 am
i just read the installation guide and see that after the avw the home setup should come and after the home setup the generating of the orbiter screens. i dont get the home setup, just immediately the generating of orbiter screens ...
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 17, 2009, 02:05:20 pm
2nite i will do a install from cd. that should be much faster to install / reinstall and much easyer for me te troubleshoot  ;)
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: niz23 on June 17, 2009, 03:02:04 pm
dicenl,
2nite i will do a install from cd. that should be much faster to install / reinstall and much easyer for me te troubleshoot  ;)

No it wont!
The reason is that you first have to install kubuntu 0710. Then install LMCE0710 from the two CDs. It will install all needed lmce packages and you will be done. Takes some time. Like an hour or so. Or more.

Install with dvd is just a file decompress of the big gzipped file located on the dvd.
After that the lite installer fix mbr and stuff to be able to boot.
No ubuntu package handling and so.

Generally the dvd installer is the recommended way (The single layer variant without the extra demo video located on dvd).

/niz23
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 17, 2009, 07:39:57 pm
dicenl,
2nite i will do a install from cd. that should be much faster to install / reinstall and much easyer for me te troubleshoot  ;)

No it wont!
The reason is that you first have to install kubuntu 0710. Then install LMCE0710 from the two CDs. It will install all needed lmce packages and you will be done. Takes some time. Like an hour or so. Or more.

Install with dvd is just a file decompress of the big gzipped file located on the dvd.
After that the lite installer fix mbr and stuff to be able to boot.
No ubuntu package handling and so.

Generally the dvd installer is the recommended way (The single layer variant without the extra demo video located on dvd).

/niz23

yeah well i would like to only use the DVD but it just doesn't work for me and i cant figure out why. I did the 8 gb dvd, the 3,9 gb dvd so i only have the 2 (3 total) cd option left.

or do you have any suggestions that could get my dvd install to work? ill let you know if it works this time.
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 17, 2009, 09:23:53 pm
argh  >:( why why why!? there must be a problem sitting between chair and keyboard or there is a hardware problem or so. again got a no go! mce installer starts installing, after a few minutes it just restarts x and i can login x again with no running installer ...   :'(

i will stop posting in this topic since my problem isn't as discribed in the subject anymore. i'll try a different pc to install on

(just got the feeling there will be a guy jumping into my living room screaming "You Got Punked!! there is no such thing as a LinuxMCE"  ;D
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: pigdog on June 17, 2009, 10:03:50 pm
Hi,

Just to verify a couple of things...

For the 710 DVD did you do the md5sum check?

Did you try burning the image file at 2X or lowest speed possible?

Just saying this because alot of people had problems with downloads not matching md5sums and burning speeds.
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 17, 2009, 11:06:23 pm
i just did a checksum check. i turned out ok. i burned the iso first with ImgBurn on XP with 1 speed but i got IO errors while installing linuxmce so i burned it again with nero 8 at 2 speed. with nero i got no errors.

the stange thing is that after the avw the lady should ask me my home configuration (name, rooms, lights) but it skips to generating orbiter screens. so i gues i cant create the orbiter screens because there is no room configuration or no input data for generating the orbiter screens?

is there a way to manualy start the UI for configuring the rooms, lights and inputs?
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 18, 2009, 01:47:55 pm
anybody? just want to know if i can start the room configure UI by hand / commandline or so. Or is there a way to generate a default Orbiter #20 so mce can read some configuration?
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: tschak909 on June 18, 2009, 05:16:51 pm
I'm still unsure as to what could even be causing the problem in the first place.

I have been reading this thread since you first posted, and have tried to reproduce your problem, and haven't been able to.

You may want to try 0810 to see if you have the same problems.

-Thom
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 18, 2009, 05:26:39 pm
tnx for your reply!! okay, and with the 0810 you mean the kubuntu desktop cd and install the mce with the 2 cd's right? 2nite i will start a install on a my other pc i wanted to use as media director to see if it might be a hardware problem. mean while i'll try to install 0810 on the other pc and what happens. ill keep you posted!
Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: jimmejames on June 18, 2009, 06:00:17 pm
As that it worked the first time, but has had problems since, can you run memtest86 for a couple hours?  Maybe you've got bad memory and by chance it didn't show up the first time, but since then you've hit a bad spot.

The memtest86 is already on one (probably all) of the disks that you burned and after a couple hours would tell you if that's the problem- worth a shot, right?

Title: Re: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 18, 2009, 07:19:36 pm
As that it worked the first time, but has had problems since, can you run memtest86 for a couple hours?  Maybe you've got bad memory and by chance it didn't show up the first time, but since then you've hit a bad spot.

The memtest86 is already on one (probably all) of the disks that you burned and after a couple hours would tell you if that's the problem- worth a shot, right?

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got a working LinuxMCE. Thank you jimmejames for pointing me in the right direction (and of course all that helped!!). When i first started my pc on wich i wanted to install mce i got a message about my memory. I just didnt pay any attention to it! i just figured it was because i just put some new hardware together for the pc to work for mce. After saving the bios the message (of course) dissapeard.

now i removed 512MB of the dual channel memory banks, reinstalled and and the lovely lady is speaking to me again  ;D

So after al the problem was indeed between chair and keyboard ... it almost always is isnt it. Again, many thanks for the support, i will keep watching (and probably use) this forum and help whenever i can!!

NB: is 512MB enough for a mediacenter with 2 MD's and a bit later a couple of z-wave modules or do you recomend 1024 or more??
Title: Re: SOLVED: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 18, 2009, 10:15:55 pm
not to sure it was my memory. i did a reinstall just to see if it still installs and i got the loop again. when it did install my computer case was open. after the loop i opend the case again and the harddisk was pretty hot. so it could be the memory or the harddisk (or just anything else for that matter)
Title: Re: SOLVED: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 19, 2009, 09:01:47 pm
just to wrap things up. the problem was most probably a memory dimm. when i put the memory back in my pc it didnt stat up at all. now i switched the 2 simms and the pc started up again and linuxmce keeps on starting as well. i also did replace the harddisk because it was verry hot (almost to hot to touch) and i dont want the mce to crash.

just wanted to let you all know.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: jimmejames on June 19, 2009, 10:19:24 pm
Good to hear you got things working.  710 is rock solid and 810 is too, with a few minor glitches that have been solved or I've learned to ignore such that I don't miss anything.

At a risk of getting shot, I run 4gb pc6300 ddr2 ram in my core.  Yes, it's considered overkill.  Yes, it's a 32bit machine so only 3.5 is recognized, but with either frys or newegg running 4 gig memory deals for $30 or less, why not?

As for the MDs, I think 256 is the minimum, but I've had trouble with this.  I had a Fujitsu B2545 touch screen laptop that I converted into a picture frame- I think Krys has some good illustrations of the way he did it.  But back to the point, this requires pc100 sodimm- I don't even think 512mb was made, and if so it is prohibitively expensive.  It worked excellent as an audio only MD to power the ceiling speakers in my kitchen.  For whatever reason, now with 810 I get a "failed to start X" error when the machine should get to Sarah.  I've looked into it a little, but gave up until 810 is official.

For me, with MDs, I run with whatever I have around- usually between 1gb and 2.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: dicenl on June 20, 2009, 11:11:27 am
tnx for al the info! so i just need some more or new memory. i think i'll go for 2 gig for the core than. i have 2 old pc's that wil run as md's (bedroom and kitchen). both got 1gb so that should be more than enough and when money comes falling out of the sky again .... i want to buy some thin clients. now i only need some z-wave equipment so i can play with those features as wel.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Generating orbiter screens loops
Post by: thezfunk on September 23, 2009, 02:20:40 am
Your problem is very similiar to mine but I just tested my ram and it is fine!  My issue is with the MD.  It's an ION board and I get through the avwizard but then it just gets into a orbiter regen loop.