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Title: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: vgoxon on May 01, 2009, 07:31:43 pm
Hello all,

I hope my posting is ok and not out of line!

We have/are developing a range of IP controllers and would be happy to work with any one who maybe interested in using them with
LinuxMCE.

The unit i think maybe of interest is called T1, this has

1x Ethernet
4x RS232 ports
1x RS485 port
1x Relay
6x IR outputs

We also make devices that sit on he RS485 such as relay boxes, audio switchers and dimmers (dimmers are coming soon)

All units are euro DIN mount but can be put into desk top or rack mount style boxes.

please PM me if you would like to work with us.
thanks
g
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: tschak909 on May 01, 2009, 10:17:48 pm
There really is no need to talk private message. This is something that benefits the whole community.

Welcome :)

Writing a device driver is very easy with this system, once a proper development environment has been set up. Device drivers can be written in either C++, or Ruby, and once written, can be checked into our source code tree and database for folding into the general release.

I would imagine that this device would be implemented exactly the same way as our existing GC-100 device, (as a C++ device.) and would be glad to assist in any way possible to write a driver.

-Thom
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: vgoxon on May 02, 2009, 09:51:56 am
Thanks, thats all good then, yes the product is very much like a gc-100, we are adding some onboard
logic real time clock and IR storing, our IR learner is part of the unit which is handy.

I will have a protocol document out by next week i hope, so will send that around or post a down load link and people can tell us what they think.

g

Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: dlewis on May 02, 2009, 01:44:42 pm
Good stuff vgoxon... I'm looking forward to seeing your documentation.
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: los93sol on May 12, 2009, 04:40:42 am
Any speculation on a pricepoint?
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: tschak909 on May 12, 2009, 08:19:27 am
I would buy multiple units if you guys managed to price it much more competitively than the GC-100.

-Thom
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: krys on May 12, 2009, 04:16:16 pm
I second what Thom said... especially if you were able to customize each unit, or just offer different varieties.
-Krys
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: vgoxon on May 27, 2009, 03:35:41 pm
Hi Guys,

Sorry it's taken longer to get a doc sorted then i wanted.
On the cost bases it's the old numbers game, small batches cost sadly, but working on getting the price down, at the moment
the bigger one, 6x ir,4x 232,1x485,4x relay,4 x io is in the $500 ( i know!)

What would be a great help is if you guys could tell me what type of interface and numbers of them on a box and maybe we can
come up with something, it maybe I'm sticking on loads you don't want/need and not adding things your dreaming of!.

I have a light interface document for people to have a look at, it's very simple, can i post it here or should i just put a link to it?
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: Marie.O on May 27, 2009, 03:59:42 pm
What would be a great help is if you guys could tell me what type of interface and numbers of them on a box and maybe we can
come up with something, it maybe I'm sticking on loads you don't want/need and not adding things your dreaming of!.

I'd say single port RS232 plus IR ist needed mostly. Reason? Most people have a media director near by if more devices are controlled. And a lot of people (my guess), would need to control single devices away from the MDs.
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: gollywog on May 28, 2009, 07:28:53 am
I would agree with Posde.

This would mean one piece of cat5 to say a AC unit and stick a IR emitter on it :)

Gollywog
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: hari on May 28, 2009, 09:46:30 am
for 100EUR you get a 400Mhz ARM with 3,5" touchscreen running Linux with 3 serial ports (and plenty of other IO). I'm just looking into relais shield and consumer infrared extensions. A price of 500$ is quite steep..

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: wierdbeard65 on May 28, 2009, 01:33:42 pm
for 100EUR you get a 400Mhz ARM with 3,5" touchscreen running Linux with 3 serial ports (and plenty of other IO). I'm just looking into relais shield and consumer infrared extensions.

Off-topic, I know, but where have you seen these? Are they suitable to use as orbiters (either mobile or fixed)?

Thanks!
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: vgoxon on May 28, 2009, 09:48:59 pm
for 100EUR you get a 400Mhz ARM with 3,5" touchscreen running Linux with 3 serial ports (and plenty of other IO). I'm just looking into relais shield and consumer infrared extensions. A price of 500$ is quite steep..


Is this the old friendlyarm system again?, it's not a bad bit of kit, but watch out for the life cycle, if it's just a few here or there it's not so bad, we will have a 3.5" ts out shortly on IP, price around $300. If it's not please say what it is, sounds good.

Yes $500 is steep!,  so a new build is underway, wireless or wired ip, 2x ir 2xrs232 2xrelay  temp sensor and 6 button inputs, price... hopefully $100 ish. when i say ish i mean in the range of 10% so more inline with the market i would hope!, the wifi might be a drop more as a few more parts.


Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: hari on May 28, 2009, 10:13:37 pm
the mini2440 is a very good design. I'm not aware of any quality issues with the board itself.

br, Hari
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: Marie.O on May 28, 2009, 10:54:07 pm
Yes $500 is steep!,  so a new build is underway, wireless or wired ip, 2x ir 2xrs232 2xrelay  temp sensor and 6 button inputs, price... hopefully $100 ish. when i say ish i mean in the range of 10% so more inline with the market i would hope!, the wifi might be a drop more as a few more parts.

That price point sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices now taking orders!
Post by: vgoxon on July 14, 2009, 12:27:21 am
Hi All, Been busy working away and have some news!

We are doing a run of 50 T1 controllers, the spec is:
6 IR Outputs
1 IR receiver (for learning codes)
4 RS232 Serial Ports
1 RS485 Serial Port
4 x Relay (10amp 240v)
4 Contact closer inputs

These now have an open API which lets you use the ports as ip gateway type so send a code and it comes out, nice and easy, or there is now a web setup on board where you can learn IR codes manage serial strings ect then just call simple custom strings.

As these units a new we are offering them for £150 each, with life time firmware upgrades and support. Normal price will be £200. of the 50 there are still a few left, shipping will be 18 August. If you would like more information or to order one or some, please message me and we can make arrangement.
Thanks g
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: hari on July 14, 2009, 12:35:09 am
if you send me one as test sample I could prolly be convinced to do a proof of concept driver (see the Lantronix and the IRTrans ethernet template)

br, Hari
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: vgoxon on July 14, 2009, 01:02:57 pm
Hari,
Thanks for the offer, please PM me your address and i will send you one, i thought some one would offer a driver for sample and happy to do one for you as you've asked, really appreciate the support.

other wise we have 18 left of the 50, well 17 now.

cheers
g
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices now taking orders!
Post by: Marie.O on July 14, 2009, 03:52:34 pm
As these units a new we are offering them for £150 each, with life time firmware upgrades and support. Normal price will be £200.

... so a new build is underway, wireless or wired ip, 2x ir 2xrs232 2xrelay  temp sensor and 6 button inputs, price... hopefully $100 ish. when i say ish i mean in the range of 10% so more inline with the market i would hope!, the wifi might be a drop more as a few more parts.

How unfortunate that the price went from 100ish USD to 200GBP
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: hari on July 14, 2009, 04:38:59 pm
pm sent.

br, Hari
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: qball4 on July 14, 2009, 05:02:59 pm
200GBP = US$325

Love the concept, but in order to make the purchase worthwhile you really need to use ALL of the T1's features. At $100ish I'd pick one up in a heartbeat, though.

:Matt
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: bulek on July 15, 2009, 12:57:02 am
if you send me one as test sample I could prolly be convinced to do a proof of concept driver (see the Lantronix and the IRTrans ethernet template)

br, Hari
Hi hari,

I spotted you mention IRTrans template. Is it in 710 and 810 ? Any more info somewhere ?

Thanks in advance,

regards,

Bulek.
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: tschak909 on July 15, 2009, 01:13:51 am
For the last time, anyone asking:

WE ARE NOT DOING ANY DEV WORK ON 0710. WE ARE NOT COMPILING DEVICES FOR 0710. WE ARE NOT ACCEPTING DEVICE TEMPLATES FOR 0710. WE CAN'T.

Basically...

This means, all of you... yes... ALL OF YOU.... that are still on 0710, need to migrate to 0810 to get new features.

-Thom
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: hari on July 15, 2009, 06:37:57 pm
Hi Bulek,

I spotted you mention IRTrans template. Is it in 710 and 810 ? Any more info somewhere ?

The usb irtrans is plug and play in 0710, I've tested it. Pluto did the DCE device for it. Unfortunately ddamron is too lazy to send tschak the sample unit... (hari looks very angry @ ddamron)

The ethernet irtrans is for 0810 as tschak said. The device template itself is not really complicated. Should be fairly easy to create one on 0710 and compile the dce device against.

br, Hari
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: bulek on July 15, 2009, 10:44:59 pm
Hi Bulek,

I spotted you mention IRTrans template. Is it in 710 and 810 ? Any more info somewhere ?

The usb irtrans is plug and play in 0710, I've tested it. Pluto did the DCE device for it. Unfortunately ddamron is too lazy to send tschak the sample unit... (hari looks very angry @ ddamron)

The ethernet irtrans is for 0810 as tschak said. The device template itself is not really complicated. Should be fairly easy to create one on 0710 and compile the dce device against.

br, Hari
Thanks for info, I have Ethernet version so I guess will try on 8.10.

Regards,

Bulek.
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices now taking orders!
Post by: vgoxon on July 16, 2009, 10:13:56 pm
As these units a new we are offering them for £150 each, with life time firmware upgrades and support. Normal price will be £200.

... so a new build is underway, wireless or wired ip, 2x ir 2xrs232 2xrelay  temp sensor and 6 button inputs, price... hopefully $100 ish. when i say ish i mean in the range of 10% so more inline with the market i would hope!, the wifi might be a drop more as a few more parts.

How unfortunate that the price went from 100ish USD to 200GBP

It is indeed unfortunate, there is a cut down version coming as above (wireless or wired ip, 2x ir 2xrs232 2xrelay  temp sensor and 6 button inputs) but it is still going to be about £100, i know that's not $100, but at least the old £ is less in US $ then it was!.
If some one slaps an order on us for 250 units the price will come down, it's that old game, I'm going to Hong Kong in a few weeks partly going to check out some factories, so you never know.
the good news is we've pre sold a lot of t1's, so hopefully there is the demand that will in turn push the price down.
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: rperre on September 13, 2009, 07:12:14 pm
@hari

did you ever receive this device?

how is it working out,

Richard
Title: Re: IP Controllers and Network Devices
Post by: hari on September 14, 2009, 01:45:34 pm
nope, nothing recevied yet.

br, Hari