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General => Users => Topic started by: krys on April 02, 2009, 04:24:44 pm

Title: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: krys on April 02, 2009, 04:24:44 pm
I was thinking that when 810 is released, it might be nice to change up the forum a little and wanted to know if anyone else shared my opinion. It seems to me that our channels aren't very specific, which makes it harder to find info. So i would suggest something along the lines of:
1. General Discussion/ Users
2. Media
3. Lighting
4. Climate
5. Telecom
6. Security
7. Developers
8. Install issues
9. Feature Requests Roadmap
10. 710/ Archive

I think the 810 release would be the perfect time to implement this because we could start with a blank slate, put all of the current info into the archive, and then new posts going forward would be related to the new release (avoids the question of "are you talking about 710 or 810?"). I think this would help out with organization and might keep down all the repeatative questions, also it might be a little less overwhelming for new members to the forum. Plus now that we have moderators it will be much easier to move threads into their proper channel if they are started in the wrong place.
Just a thought.
-Krys
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Pnuts on April 02, 2009, 05:04:59 pm
I fully support this idea   :)

Possibly add an additional forum called watercooler or some such as an off topic place for members to build rapport with each other.

and dont forget to kep the marketplace.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: hari on April 02, 2009, 07:00:16 pm
i second that.
br, hari
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Anthony_Molg on April 02, 2009, 07:15:08 pm
agree
 :)
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Steve on April 02, 2009, 07:23:29 pm
I was thinking about suggesting basically the same thing but with me being new to the forums I figured I would be ignored. cause half of the people I think are using 810 and the other half are using 710. You just aren't sure how to answer people based on thier questions. That is a great idea!
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: ddamron on April 02, 2009, 07:27:07 pm
I agree with this too.

BR,

Dan
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: rages on April 02, 2009, 08:11:56 pm
good idea
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Seer on April 02, 2009, 10:36:52 pm
I agree with the kyrs and with Pnuts.  I 2nd the "Water cooler" or "Off Topic" forum as well.  It might also be a great place to put the "photos of my setup" kinda thing.  Nothing makes people want HA more than seeing other people's kick-ass house setup!
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: colinjones on April 02, 2009, 10:43:56 pm
No objection.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: lmce3000 on April 02, 2009, 10:45:27 pm
Good Idea Krys.

John.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Itsik on April 03, 2009, 06:48:58 am
good idea ...
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: simon_b on April 03, 2009, 08:05:38 am
great idea, even if when browsing thru different threads in current "user" section, people can find ideas/solutions for the issues, they didn't started dealing with yet
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: posde on April 03, 2009, 08:31:46 am
I do not like to have too many subforum. I suggest to limit it to three maximum four sub-boards. Otherwise the admins will have a hell of a time to put stuff into the right categories.

Look at the archive, what Pluto used to have. IMHO those are too many boards.

Code: [Select]
Users (containing general discussions)
-- Media
-- Automation
-- Telecom
Developer
Wishlist
Marketplace
-- For Sale
-- Want to Buy
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: b4rney on April 03, 2009, 12:36:29 pm
I'm not sure. I quite like the very active users category and looking through varied posts.

The problem with splitting it is that some channels will have only a few posts and be rarely visited. Replies may be slow. People will continue using 'users' for all posts.

I think combining lesser used channels might help. I like the idea of splitting 710 (archive) vs 810.
Barney
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: totallymaxed on April 03, 2009, 12:55:07 pm
I agree too... sounds like a good idea.

Andrew
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: dlewis on April 03, 2009, 04:31:54 pm
You've got my support.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Ray_N on April 03, 2009, 06:47:13 pm
   While I'm all for the 0810 vs 0710 split, I agree with b4rney.
   Too many sub-forums may be too much of a management issue that may unnecessarily dilute moderators time from doing other things. For example, I would not want colinjones taking time away from giving his awesome advices because he's trying to sort-out postings into correct sub-forum. And yes, when people come over, they will most likely just post to "Users". Generally, people are not so "categoristic" when posting asking questions versus when looking for stuff.

   So we have two different ideas going on here in this thread. Just so we don't confuse, when people say "I agree with that"...
1) Start 0810 forums, and archive 0710.
2) Add several sub-forums.

R
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: posde on April 03, 2009, 06:49:07 pm
Problem with archiving current forums is, that all of the links will be screwed. Not a good thing imho. Maybe just rename them.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Pnuts on April 03, 2009, 06:50:04 pm
I actually think the 810 vs 710 spilt would be better, but could we still get a watercooler type section for off topic chat and such?
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: dlewis on April 03, 2009, 07:03:34 pm
710 is still relevant, thus archiving anytime soon would not make sense...
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: krys on April 03, 2009, 07:20:32 pm
Well I say then that we leave it up to the MOD's or whoever would do the work of adding topics etc, there have been enough posts for them to get an idea. If they change it cool, if not no big deal. I am just concerned that as LMCE grows (which i believe it will) there will be more and more posts each day, and if they aren't categorized then we will have 3 pages of new posts under just the user section. I mean the stickies at the top of the users page take up about 50% of the first page as it is....
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Steve on April 03, 2009, 07:29:11 pm
I've got another idea, how about a section for people using UI1 and a section for UI2. or is UI1 not going to be in 810. I haven't got around to trying 810 yet so I don't know.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: tschak909 on April 03, 2009, 10:11:11 pm
No.

-Thom
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: darrenmason on April 04, 2009, 04:26:39 am
The old pluto forum broke down the sections in a somewhat similar way although it was sort of down to the main devices.
It has pros and cons.

It seems to be better for finding old posts that relate to a certain area when search doesn't give you what you want or gives you too much.
The disadvanatge is that when doing your daily browse you have to go through more areas because I am sure I am not the only one that tends to read nearly all the posts.

I don't have a problem with it now and would probably prefer it to stay as is - but I wouldn't really care that much if it changed.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: Steve on April 04, 2009, 06:31:43 am
Oh well, was just a thaught.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: patmankn on April 04, 2009, 08:44:31 pm
Actually i kind of like the setup like it is right now, To many subforums makes it hard just to browse all categories while watching TV on the couch. I prefer, just browsing the board, sneaking around others problems, as my own system is not that advanced yet. To divide up the forum with the new release is not the best idea, because some solutions might work on the new version as well.
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: colinjones on April 05, 2009, 02:05:50 am
Hi Darren,
The disadvanatge is that when doing your daily browse you have to go through more areas because I am sure I am not the only one that tends to read nearly all the posts.
True, but I am pretty sure you too use the "Show unread posts" option  ;), which I think becomes even more useful if there are a few more categories!
Cheers
Mark


The only time I ever use the individual forums is when I am posting a new thread... I only ever use the Show Unread Posts option, so the individual forums for me are kinda irrelevant!
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: wierdbeard65 on April 18, 2009, 01:45:28 pm
FWIW, I use Colin's method of access, so it is also irrelevant for me - but I have great sympathy for everyone else's points of view and can see a strong case for both approaches. Having a second set of boards for the new release seems like a good idea, though. Even if that reflects the current layout!

While you are at it, would it be possible to look at the wiki too? I often find that when I'm looking around it, I find things are not yet supported, then later discover the page is out of date and it is now supported in 7.x or whatever.

I'm not suggesting re-writing the whole wiki (far too much work!) but how about introducing a header to every page? This header would be a table listing the various versions of MCE and whether the page applies or not. Users would then be encouraged to add the header (and fill it in!) when editing a page. Any page without a header would then be "flagged" as pre-8.10.

Alternatively (or maybe as well) you could have a "Applies to 8.10" logo which is added to any page that is updated in the light of the new version.

One (or both) of these suggestions would prevent people (like me) asking questions relating to outdated wiki information...

Just a thought  ;D
Title: Re: New Forum Layout for 810
Post by: mami on April 20, 2009, 06:54:27 am
I was thinking that when 810 is released, it might be nice to change up the forum a little and wanted to know if anyone else shared my opinion. It seems to me that our channels aren't very specific, which makes it harder to find info. So i would suggest something along the lines of:
1. General Discussion/ Users
2. Media
3. Lighting
4. Climate
5. Telecom
6. Security
7. Developers
8. Install issues
9. Feature Requests Roadmap
10. 710/ Archive

I think the 810 release would be the perfect time to implement this because we could start with a blank slate, put all of the current info into the archive, and then new posts going forward would be related to the new release (avoids the question of "are you talking about 710 or 810?"). I think this would help out with organization and might keep down all the repeatative questions, also it might be a little less overwhelming for new members to the forum. Plus now that we have moderators it will be much easier to move threads into their proper channel if they are started in the wrong place.
Just a thought.
-Krys

I like this too. It's easier to post new questions and to find specific problems you have...
And a Off Topic too.

The one about wiki sounds intressting too.

/Mami