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Title: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 18, 2009, 12:55:59 am
Given that the DVB version is now available (albeit quiet expensive!) is getting support for it just a matter of creating a device template, or will it require recoding of the driver and LMCE wrapper part? (assuming it is implemented as a DCE device... should have checked before posting, will go have a look now :) )

Edit: Oops, doesn't implement DCE... hmmm...
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: hari on February 18, 2009, 01:06:40 am
is it finally available? It was announced for years..
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 18, 2009, 01:54:47 am
Yes, its available in Australia for AU$299 (AU$249 on special this month only!), and I am aware of some people that have already taken delivery in Sydney. Apparently, it is also available in the UK, but the price of GBP189 seems extremely high... perhaps Totallymaxed knows something more about that in the UK?
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 18, 2009, 02:34:20 am
Fantastic, about time.

Do you know where in Australia these can be purchased from?

Regards,
Josh
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 18, 2009, 02:35:02 am
You can get that info at www.hdhomerun.com.au

Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 18, 2009, 02:37:04 am
Great, thanks for that.
I've been keeping an eye on www.silicondust.com, but that still says coming soon.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: darrenmason on February 18, 2009, 02:57:04 am
I read some comments on the Silicondust forums that they are not working with MythTV yet. Don't know if same issues are found with VDR. Might be worth holding off for a bit.

These would be a lot more attractive if they had an aerial pass through or even just one antenna input instead of two.

Colin - if these units implement the same API as the US ones then the HDHomeRun code should in theory be fine - the template may just need extending to recognise these units (perhaps).
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 18, 2009, 03:03:36 am
I just purchased one, so I will let you know how it goes when I receive it.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: Ray_N on February 18, 2009, 03:55:51 am
Very nice!   
    Looks like a cool device...now what does this mean for the pcHDTV card? At first glance it looks like they serve the same purpose for us LMCE people (may be a great stand-alone solution for people without LMCE).

   Now, if we had a situation where the cableTV cables were in say...the basement, but we want the Hybrid/Core in the third floor would this device be the solution, instead of having to re-route the cableTV cables to the Hybrid/Core up on the third floor.

   Also, since the HDHomeRun device has two inputs, could this same thing be accomplished with two pcHDTV cards in LMCE?
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 18, 2009, 04:18:29 am
Ray,

Two PCI cards would do the same job (or a dual tuner card), but there are very few DVB-T cards currently supported, so its less of a gamble & certainly more versatile than a PCI card
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 18, 2009, 04:25:13 am
Very nice!   
    Looks like a cool device...now what does this mean for the pcHDTV card? At first glance it looks like they serve the same purpose for us LMCE people (may be a great stand-alone solution for people without LMCE).

   Now, if we had a situation where the cableTV cables were in say...the basement, but we want the Hybrid/Core in the third floor would this device be the solution, instead of having to re-route the cableTV cables to the Hybrid/Core up on the third floor.

   Also, since the HDHomeRun device has two inputs, could this same thing be accomplished with two pcHDTV cards in LMCE?

This is a DVB device, given that you are in PR, it won't be of any use to you. The ATSC equivalent has been available for a long time... that one is currently supported pnp in LMCE, the DVB one is not (so lemming is going over the cliff on this one :) )
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 18, 2009, 04:34:00 am
Sorry about that, probably shouldn't skim read  ;D
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: Ray_N on February 18, 2009, 04:40:12 am
hehehe...Thanks...I guess I should have done my homework too...I had no idea what DVB-T was. Quick google led me to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-T  Very nice world map at the bottom. Now I know we use ATSC...  ;D

Thanks guys,
R
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 18, 2009, 05:07:15 am
Sorry about that, probably shouldn't skim read  ;D

That's OK lemming, you can be the pioneer and add support for us DVB/VDR users!
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: tschak909 on February 18, 2009, 08:51:37 am
I have been using the HDHomeRun plug and play with LinuxMCE for a long time. They are fantastic devices, with very solid tuners (two of them), and they just work.

What will need to happen is to see what the differences are operationally between the ATSC and DVB versions to see if they can be folded into our existing scripts and packages that we install for HDHomeRun support.

-Thom
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on February 18, 2009, 10:59:52 am
Yes, its available in Australia for AU$299 (AU$249 on special this month only!), and I am aware of some people that have already taken delivery in Sydney. Apparently, it is also available in the UK, but the price of GBP189 seems extremely high... perhaps Totallymaxed knows something more about that in the UK?

Hi Colin,

My information is that the DVB model is not available here yet in the UK... you Aussie's must be the 'Guinea pigs' ;-)

Where did you see that UK price of 189UKP?

Allthe best

Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 18, 2009, 01:16:53 pm
nope, they shipped to UK and AU at the same time apparently, NZ was a week behind (frankly, that's being generous :) )

http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3556&start=105
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on February 18, 2009, 01:42:56 pm
nope, they shipped to UK and AU at the same time apparently, NZ was a week behind (frankly, that's being generous :) )

http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3556&start=105

Hmmm... no one here has them. I have googled for them and also called several companies... none have seen any at all yet.

Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 18, 2009, 02:17:47 pm
dunno then, didn't research the uk suppliers much, just saw those posts in the link I sent... apparently they found a supplier, but to be fair we are talking product landed in the last few days (both in AU and UK)... check the AU thread on that forum, one guy at least actually has product "in hand" and working in Sydney so it must exist :)
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on February 25, 2009, 06:32:05 pm
is it finally available? It was announced for years..

SilconDust just added the UK reseller to their site;

http://pctvok.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=28 (http://pctvok.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=28)

Now to get it to work with vdr....


Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on February 25, 2009, 10:21:41 pm
is it finally available? It was announced for years..

SilconDust just added the UK reseller to their site;

http://pctvok.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=28 (http://pctvok.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=28)

Now to get it to work with vdr....


Andrew

Cool! I imagine modding the pnp to work with DVB-T should be pretty straight forward, but do you think there will be a great deal of effort to get it working with VDR?

Col.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on February 25, 2009, 10:31:49 pm
is it finally available? It was announced for years..

SilconDust just added the UK reseller to their site;

http://pctvok.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=28 (http://pctvok.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=28)

Now to get it to work with vdr....


Andrew

Cool! I imagine modding the pnp to work with DVB-T should be pretty straight forward, but do you think there will be a great deal of effort to get it working with VDR?

Col.

To be frank I am not sure yet whether the vdr part will be easy or hard...

Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 26, 2009, 12:30:13 pm
Well mine just arrived & only 3 days after my payment cleared.

Had it working well with my Windows Media Centre in about 2 minutes, very impressed with how well it works.

I will put it on my LMCE test network on the weekend & let you all know what happens.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on February 26, 2009, 04:07:35 pm
Well mine just arrived & only 3 days after my payment cleared.

Had it working well with my Windows Media Centre in about 2 minutes, very impressed with how well it works.

I will put it on my LMCE test network on the weekend & let you all know what happens.

Great. Do you use MythTV or vdr as your PVR in LinuxMCE?

All the best

Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 27, 2009, 11:07:16 am
Andrew,
It changes with each reinstall  :)

But I will try it with both
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on February 27, 2009, 12:00:35 pm
Just added a wiki page for it
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Silicondust_HDHomeRun_DVB-T (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Silicondust_HDHomeRun_DVB-T)

Most info bastardised from the existing HDHomeRun Wiki page, updated with relevant info.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: Crawtech on March 10, 2009, 07:56:56 am
Hi All
Has any one managed to get the HDHomeRun DvB-T working in 710 yet under myth or VDR ?????
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on March 10, 2009, 12:59:23 pm
Unfortunately I have had a severe lack of spare time.
In the short time I did have, I tried VDR & Myth, I had no luck with VDR, but a bit with Myth.
Got to the point of scanning for channels, but it didn't detect any.

Will have more of a play when I get the chance.

Josh
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version.... (AU)
Post by: Crawtech on April 02, 2009, 07:50:44 am
Hi All
Just an update
I have the HDHomeRun dvb-t working in LinuxMCE 810 alpha 2 what I did was
1  wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu-testing/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythbuntu-weekly/mythbuntu-weekly_1-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu2_all.deb
2 then install that package

this adds mythbuntu-weekly.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d

3 apt-get update

4 apt-get install mythtv-backend mythtv-frontend mythtv-database

this pulls those and a few other packages from mythbuntu

5 then go into mythtv setup and add the tuner's and scan for channels and away it went
 
Problems
 no sound in HD sound is fine in SD 

 
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: lemming86_au on April 06, 2009, 07:30:13 am
Great new ihas, I will try that out when I have some spare time.

FYI, the issue with the sound also happens if you use VLC with this device, so it may not be an issue with LinuxMCE/Myth as such.

Regards,
Josh
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: gumis on April 06, 2009, 03:49:17 pm
Any news about DVB-T version and Linux MCE 7.10?

Is it supported/difficult to setup?
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: tschak909 on April 06, 2009, 06:41:27 pm
As we have stated before in numerous threads, Nothing new will be provided for LinuxMCE 0710. That branch is closed.

-Thom
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: pcbastard on April 07, 2009, 07:27:39 am
Nice bitchslap.

How polite.  How would you like to be answered on a newbie question?

Quick, someone find a woman or two that can respond for Thom.  Tie his hands up and destroy all his keyboards!!!!

Leo, the eternal newbie defendant.

Still love you though.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: Zaerc on April 11, 2009, 08:07:01 pm
Nice bitchslap.

How polite.  How would you like to be answered on a newbie question?

Quick, someone find a woman or two that can respond for Thom.  Tie his hands up and destroy all his keyboards!!!!

Leo, the eternal newbie defendant.

Still love you though.
Somehow I don't see you answering these questions, until then you can keep this kind of bullcrap to yourself, thanks in advance...
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: colinjones on April 12, 2009, 03:17:53 am
pcbastard - please note Zaerc's comment... your response was pointless in the literal sense, and unhelpful. Thom's remarks were both accurate and not in any way negative, please do not contribute in this way as it lowers the tone of discussions.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on April 12, 2009, 11:59:56 am
Any news about DVB-T version and Linux MCE 7.10?

Is it supported/difficult to setup?

As Thom says the 0710 branch is closed and is not being updated/extended now. However that does not mean that you cant work on support for the HDHomeRun DVB-T and work with others to do so under 0710. Then move those over to the 0810 branch later.

All the best

Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: dlewis on April 26, 2009, 06:48:38 pm
I've removed the harmful comment.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: fastie81 on July 22, 2009, 01:14:47 am
Hi Guys

To come back to the question..
Is this working now with sound on the mythbuntu weekly build?
Any one got any news on this?
Chris
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: gumis on May 11, 2010, 09:32:29 pm
Hi guys,

any updates on HD HomeRun DVB-T under 8.10?
I'm thinking about buying this nice piece of kit for my LMCE setup to get Freeview HD in UK.
Does anyone know if any modifications are needed or would it just work straight from the box with MythTV?

thanks.
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on May 11, 2010, 11:55:46 pm
Hi guys,

any updates on HD HomeRun DVB-T under 8.10?
I'm thinking about buying this nice piece of kit for my LinuxMCE setup to get Freeview HD in UK.
Does anyone know if any modifications are needed or would it just work straight from the box with MythTV?

thanks.

We have the HDhomerun working under Dianemo/Cascade & MythTV-0.21 with patches. We're just starting to test MythTV-0.23 and we expect the HDhomerun support to be good in that release. Whether the HDhomerun is PnP under 0810 yet I am not sure.

Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: fastie81 on May 12, 2010, 01:42:49 am
Hi guys,

any updates on HD HomeRun DVB-T under 8.10?
I'm thinking about buying this nice piece of kit for my LinuxMCE setup to get Freeview HD in UK.
Does anyone know if any modifications are needed or would it just work straight from the box with MythTV?

thanks.


Hi gumis

I have been running this on LMCE810 and Mythtv0.22 for the last 6 months. it works. Not great but it works. The problems I having is that in New Zealand the channels that are broadcast are different so myth and vpdau is finding it hard to switch between the codecs. Like I said it is working if I don;t channel hop. I am sure this will get better with 0.23.
This is a create piece of hardware so I would say buy it.
C
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: totallymaxed on May 12, 2010, 01:49:39 am
Hi guys,

any updates on HD HomeRun DVB-T under 8.10?
I'm thinking about buying this nice piece of kit for my LinuxMCE setup to get Freeview HD in UK.
Does anyone know if any modifications are needed or would it just work straight from the box with MythTV?

thanks.

Hi gumis

I have been running this on LMCE810 and Mythtv0.22 for the last 6 months. it works. Not great but it works. The problems I having is that in New Zealand the channels that are broadcast are different so myth and vpdau is finding it hard to switch between the codecs. Like I said it is working if I don;t channel hop. I am sure this will get better with 0.23.
This is a create piece of hardware so I would say buy it.
C

Right...you guys in New Zealand have h.264 encoded DVB-T. 0.23 will probably help you as it has better h.264 support built in. MythTV-0.22 is really a pretty crappy version...loads of bugs and internal problems (which is why we've stayed on 0.21 in  Dianemo/Cascade)...however 0.23 is really massively improved and we are transitioning to that version now. I expect that 0810 will do the same pretty soon too.

All the best

Andrew
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: fastie81 on May 12, 2010, 02:16:47 am

Right...you guys in New Zealand have h.264 encoded DVB-T. 0.23 will probably help you as it has better h.264 support built in. MythTV-0.22 is really a pretty crappy version...loads of bugs and internal problems (which is why we've stayed on 0.21 in  Dianemo/Cascade)...however 0.23 is really massively improved and we are transitioning to that version now. I expect that 0810 will do the same pretty soon too.

All the best

Andrew

Hi Andrew

I have been using avenard repo as I think it was the default when you install LMCE. I just looked on his website that he is dropping the support for 8.10. Is there any other repo I can use for 0.23 to get my testing going as you said there is loads of stuff that would make it better for me on this release. Do you know if LMCE would start adding the myth to its own repo?
I hope there will be good news.. :)
Title: Re: HDHomeRun DVB-T version....
Post by: tschak909 on June 07, 2010, 07:52:07 am
We no longer use the avenard repository for this reason, and have started bundling MythTV 0.23 ourselves, this is why there was a massive change to the /etc/apt/preferences file to fix the abusive versioning policies that avenard used.

-Thom