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Title: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: tschak909 on February 01, 2009, 09:24:25 am
Guys, we are short staffed, and need serious help from any automotivated hackers.

(1) the latest alpha build will not start orbiter.
(2) we need some sort of feedback mechanism for showing that things are happening in the background, now that the Launch Manager is gone.
(3) Look at the bugs in Trac and help smash them
(4) Learn the device template and package system so that we can support more hardware!

and so on.

Please guys, there are only a few of us that are spending our waking hours working on this thing. WE NEED HELP!

-Thom
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: totallymaxed on February 01, 2009, 09:42:27 am
Guys, we are short staffed, and need serious help from any automotivated hackers.

(1) the latest alpha build will not start orbiter.
(2) we need some sort of feedback mechanism for showing that things are happening in the background, now that the Launch Manager is gone.
(3) Look at the bugs in Trac and help smash them
(4) Learn the device template and package system so that we can support more hardware!

and so on.

Please guys, there are only a few of us that are spending our waking hours working on this thing. WE NEED HELP!

-Thom


Thom,

We will try and make sure we contribute some development time each week to helping with the 8.10 coding effort and as of next week we will have 2 dedicated Cores for LinuxMCE 08.10 testing setup on a permanent basis.

Andrew
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: Itsik on February 01, 2009, 02:24:53 pm
Thom.

Let me know how I can help with device templates. I'll do my best.

Itsik
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: eNoodle on February 02, 2009, 06:13:34 pm
(4) Learn the device template and package system so that we can support more hardware!

I'm willing to contribute something to the community. As I do not have that much experience with Java/C/C++ I would try to build some more device templates for tuner cards. I don't know anything about the package system, do you have some good starting points for that? The device templates itself shouldn't be too hard, there should be enough samples to start and learn from.

eNoodle
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: tschak909 on February 02, 2009, 06:47:23 pm
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Packages

-Thom
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: ddamron on February 02, 2009, 08:25:11 pm
Hi Thom, I'm trying to get up to speed again.

I'll help where I can.

Dan
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: cirion on February 02, 2009, 11:13:48 pm
(1) the latest alpha build will not start orbiter.
Hi Thom.

What do you mean by the Orbiter not starting?

After updating my 8.10 LMCE a few days ago, I got a new kernel, and after the reboot X did not start.
I was already using a newer NVIDIA driver, so I assumed it was because of that driver that it did not work.
I just reinstalled the driver and the Orbiter works fine...

Could it be that the Nvidia driver in 8.10 needs rebuild?

For anyone wondering, I am using the 180.22 Nvidia driver, hoping to get VDPAU working when I have time...
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22.html
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: tschak909 on February 02, 2009, 11:19:38 pm
There were issues with packages that needed to be added as dummies, and a few other little bits. Zaerc has been fixing it over the last few days, and I'm doing a test install as we speak to see if it installs from scratch.

-Thom
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: jondecker76 on February 03, 2009, 12:15:32 am
I installed alpha-latest (Alpha2) from scratch today and it worked without a hitch - great job guys
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: hari on February 03, 2009, 12:19:27 am
Kudos to Zaerc.

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: colinjones on February 03, 2009, 01:37:07 am
Great going guys! Well done. When the first beta's come out, will the update system be enabled and allow online progression from beta1 to beta2 etc? And ultimately to release version?
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: jondecker76 on February 03, 2009, 02:21:22 am
I'm not really "in the know" about this, but I would think so.. We can update manually in Alpha already. Added to that, if they use a similar "beta-latest" scheme like they are doing now, I don't see why it wouldn't work
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: los93sol on February 03, 2009, 07:45:24 am
Anyone who will be working on device templates, lots of users have emailed me asking if I've gotten my vista-15p security panel working so there is at the least a decent installed base of users that would like to use it.  I haven't gotten my head around it, any developers interested please pm me.
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: bulek on February 03, 2009, 08:14:59 am
I'm not really "in the know" about this, but I would think so.. We can update manually in Alpha already. Added to that, if they use a similar "beta-latest" scheme like they are doing now, I don't see why it wouldn't work

Hi,

can you please point me on more info on how to manually upgrade Alpha ?

Thanks in advance,

regards,

bulek.
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: jondecker76 on February 03, 2009, 08:44:34 am
if you are running Alpha1, you need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change references from alpha1 to alpha-latest, then do an apt-get update and an apt-get upgrade. This will essentially take you to alpha2. Now that we have alpha-latest as a pointer to the latest alpha version from now on we won't have to monkey with sources.list.

Just to be clear:
---These are NOT instructions to upgrade to 0810 Alpha from 0710---
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: tschak909 on February 03, 2009, 09:45:44 am
Yes, whatever you do... DO NOT DO THIS TO a 0710 SYSTEM!

!!! YOU WILL BREAK IT IN HALF !!!

-Thom
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: cirion on February 03, 2009, 09:48:57 am
if you are running Alpha1, you need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change references from alpha1 to alpha-latest, then do an apt-get update and an apt-get upgrade. This will essentially take you to alpha2. Now that we have alpha-latest as a pointer to the latest alpha version from now on we won't have to monkey with sources.list.
I tried uppgrading my 8.10 alpha1 with this, and the update stops on pluto-storage-devices_2.0.0.44.0901260810_i386.deb.
Code: [Select]
Unpacking replacement pluto-storage-devices ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/pluto-storage-devices.postrm: line 27: /usr/pluto/bin/Utils.s                          h: No such file or directory
dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 27: /usr/pluto/bin/Utils.sh: No such file or d                          irectory
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/pluto-storage-devices_2.0.0.44.09                          01260810_i386.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 27: /usr/pluto/bin/Utils.sh: No such file or d                          irectory
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/pluto-storage-devices_2.0.0.44.0901260810_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Should I try a clean install, or do anyone want me to try something first? (It's just a testserver so I can delete it any time)
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: posde on February 03, 2009, 09:54:59 am
if you are running Alpha1, you need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change references from alpha1 to alpha-latest, then do an apt-get update and an apt-get upgrade. This will essentially take you to alpha2. Now that we have alpha-latest as a pointer to the latest alpha version from now on we won't have to monkey with sources.list.
I tried uppgrading my 8.10 alpha1 with this, and the update stops on pluto-storage-devices_2.0.0.44.0901260810_i386.deb.
[..]
Should I try a clean install, or do anyone want me to try something first? (It's just a testserver so I can delete it any time)

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_alpha1#Upgrading_pluto-storage-devices (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_alpha1#Upgrading_pluto-storage-devices)
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: cirion on February 03, 2009, 10:26:28 am
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_alpha1#Upgrading_pluto-storage-devices (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_alpha1#Upgrading_pluto-storage-devices)
That did nothing for me.... Trying a clean install :)
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: jondecker76 on February 03, 2009, 11:21:34 am
if you are going to do a clean install, do a clean install of alpha-latest, not alpha1

Just follow the instructions in the wiki for installing alpha1, but use the filename
new-installer-alpha-latest.tar.gz
in place of the old
new-installer-alpha1.tar.bz2
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: cirion on February 03, 2009, 03:30:16 pm
if you are going to do a clean install, do a clean install of alpha-latest, not alpha1

Just follow the instructions in the wiki for installing alpha1, but use the filename
new-installer-alpha-latest.tar.gz
in place of the old
new-installer-alpha1.tar.bz2
I edited the installer to use alpha-latest instead of alpha1...
Are there more changes in the new installer?
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: Zaerc on February 03, 2009, 04:21:03 pm
...
I edited the installer to use alpha-latest instead of alpha1...
Are there more changes in the new installer?
there are no more changes then that, as you can see here (http://trac.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/changeset/21660).
Title: Re: Note to all hackers, we need help.
Post by: Zaerc on February 05, 2009, 12:07:12 am
Kudos to Zaerc.

best regards,
Hari

You're welcome, but it was mostly the efforts of the tireless testers and a bunch of others (you know who you are, I'd mention names but then I'll probably forget someone that'll feel left out) that made it possible.  Now we just have one hurdle left and that is to get Tschak's Game plugin going.  Then we'll probably need to fix a few more things here and there and it's onwards to the betas! 

So far so good... not bad for a couple of amateurs eh? ;)