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Title: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: Raul102801 on December 15, 2008, 06:50:56 pm
Has anyone been able to successfully use this remote? I am looking into purchasing one and was trying to decide between GYR4101US Air Music Remote and the GYR3101US which I have seen in the Wiki but I wanted to make sure that it would be fully functional before I jump in.

Any experiences with any of these remotes?

Thanks
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: dbs on March 04, 2009, 08:34:47 pm
I too am interested in this remote as it appears to be an enhanced 3101 with a small LCD screen and 100 ft. range vs. 30 ft. on the GYR3101US.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823172020 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823172020)

http://www.amazon.com/Gyration-GYR4101US-Air-Music-Remote/dp/B0018DH696/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=office-products&qid=1236193494&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Gyration-GYR4101US-Air-Music-Remote/dp/B0018DH696/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=office-products&qid=1236193494&sr=8-3)

As an aside, while Newegg is my go-to place I often find better price/shipping at Amazon or Buy.com if you're willing to wait a bit longer. zipzoomfly also has some super deals at times.

d
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: bobua on March 05, 2009, 02:42:17 am
i just picked it up from fry's today, it certainly doesn't autodetect it, but that's as far as I've gotten so far
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: wombiroller on March 05, 2009, 03:27:27 am
This might be a good place to start?
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Gyration-based_MCE_Remotes#Gyration_GYR4101
&
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Gyration-based_MCE_Remotes#Linux_Installation
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: bobua on March 05, 2009, 04:51:41 am
decent luck so far, the remote does let me move the cursor around and click.

I'm a complete linux noob, but I've managed a few things.  created a custom .xmodmap file to get some of the stuff working(after googling vi commands, holy shit somebody get me notepad.exe).  I'm not exactly sure how the fiire remote is supposed to work, so I have no idea when I don't have something mapped or there is no mapping.  For example, there is no volume up and down as far as I can tell, just a 'volume' button and then you move the remote\cursor accordingly.  That works well enough, along with the stop, chapter up and chapter down buttons.  Fast forward and reverse suck pretty hard though.

reverse gots to << 2x and brings up the cursor and blue meter at the bottom, but I can't get it to do anything, pressing reverse again\moving the cursor do nothing, same thing with fast forward >> 2x  I can't seem to change the rate.  The play button also doesn't work, the only way i can stop ff or rewinding is by using the chapter buttons.  Pause doesn't work either.

I figured out how to use xev to get the codes, but now I have to figure out what exactly I am supposed to map them to

edit:  seems one of the function keys, f7 i think, is what I really want mapped for the gyro option to fast forward or rewind, hopefully i can just map both of those to f7.  Not sure what to map the play button to though.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: tschak909 on March 05, 2009, 08:59:46 am
You will not be able to do it that way. A specific device template needs to be made for that remote, and specific support for that remote needs to be written into Orbiter. That remote sends LOTS of custom HID packets, so no matter how much you xmodmap things, you will not get the full experience out of the remote using that method.

I can do the development, if someone is willing to pay me.

-Thom
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: krys on March 05, 2009, 04:00:32 pm
You will not be able to do it that way. A specific device template needs to be made for that remote, and specific support for that remote needs to be written into Orbiter. That remote sends LOTS of custom HID packets, so no matter how much you xmodmap things, you will not get the full experience out of the remote using that method.

I can do the development, if someone is willing to pay me.

-Thom


I would pitch in if someone decides to pay Thom, LMCE needs a gyro remote that is still on the market. I am sick of this fiire chief nonsense. I own one of these gyration remotes and it is soooo smooth, only issue is some of the buttons cant be decoded properly and someone smarter than me (Thom) needs to do the dev. So, lets get a tally of who is interested in splitting the cost and having Thom set one of these up.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: Dale_K on March 05, 2009, 04:27:52 pm
I don't have one of these, I currently use Fiire remotes.  But, given the shaky ground Fiire seems to be on, I'd like to have a ready to go backup in case I couldn't get a Fiire Chief if needed.

I don't know what the cost is of something like this but I'd be willing to pitch in $100 via paypal.  If others pitch in too we should be able to cover Thom's time.

Get on board folks, time to start paying for all this excellent support.

Message me with payment info Thom, and I'll shoot the cash to ya.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: tschak909 on March 05, 2009, 07:44:46 pm
The issue is, this will take a considerable amount of time due to the required research. It's at least 30 hours worth of work.

-Thom
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: ivanp on March 05, 2009, 07:51:55 pm
I am also willing to pitch in with 100$. Really small amount for the product all the guys did.

Here in Croatia 1 hour time is around 50$ so as Thom said, around 30 work hours, we need definetly more guys to pitch in!
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: Dale_K on March 05, 2009, 10:04:03 pm
The issue is, this will take a considerable amount of time due to the required research. It's at least 30 hours worth of work.

-Thom


Eek!  I don't think I could foot the whole bill.  I'll boost my contribution to $200, what's your total estimate on this Thom?  Maybe if we can put a hard number on it we can get the offers rolling in.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: bobua on March 06, 2009, 05:04:09 am
I'm good for $100

I never understoon why the fiire chief got all the support while something like the gyration(hasn't it been around longer?  at least the company) doesn't.  You can pick up the gyration at walmart, last I checked fiire wouldn't even sell you the chief unless you bought one of their media centers.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: krys on March 09, 2009, 04:40:23 am
bump to see if there is anyone else willing to pitch in
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: bobua on March 10, 2009, 03:12:06 am
bump
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: rkcastor on December 24, 2009, 02:44:19 pm
So is this discussion dead or are there people out there still desiring the development of this remote's functionality?
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: krys on December 28, 2009, 04:18:57 pm
I own one and would pitch in
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: DragonK on June 30, 2010, 01:22:48 pm
Hi All,


So what happened to this remote? It working with 0810?
Would contribute too if needed.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: ThinkCentre on October 05, 2010, 01:20:12 am
This thread doesn't seem to want to go away. I think this remote is becomming a market leader in gyro remotes.

I'm also looking at a gyration remote and can't see the GYR3101 being offered anymore only the GYR4101. What is the situation with this remote, is it functional, will I be able to set it up with limited technical experience? Does the gyration RF keyboard that comes with the remote work too?

The reason I want this type of remote is so I not only have the "one button for all actions" option but also the full range of dedicated buttons (for example channel change, volume, ff..) i'm hoping my old man will be able to use it and I don't think he can grasp the idea of the one button thing. Plus the remote comes in a package with a keyboard that I think could be really handy.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: tschak909 on October 05, 2010, 01:21:37 am
I do not have one to test.

-Thom
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: esev on October 05, 2010, 03:29:33 pm
I haven't had time to get them completely working, but I have three of these in my setup. I found that backporting this patch https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/101673/ (https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/101673/) got the kernel to recognize almost all of the keys on the remote.

I haven't had time to look into how to map the key presses to something useful in LinuxMCE, but using the "GO Cordless GC1005M" template almost everything works.  The one annoying thing that doesn't work currently is the green menu button in the center, but I think that's just a matter of mapping the right key in the device template.

I haven't even tried to get the LCD to do anything useful.  It would be nice if it could operate as a mini-orbiter.  But I suspect it would take a lot of reverse engineering to get working properly.

I'll post the changes I made to the HID driver tonight when I get home from work.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: esev on October 06, 2010, 02:36:42 am
Attached is the patch from the previous message applied to the 2.6.27.17 kernel.  If I remember correctly, all buttons except for the ones at the top (TV, PC, CAB/SAT, AUX, etc) are recognized and interpreted by the kernel with this driver.  That should make it 'easy' for someone to create a template for the remote in LinuxMCE.  I haven't had time to work in this recently, but maybe someone else can pick up where I left off...

** edit 2010/10/07 - removed the attachment.  See the Trac ticket for the latest version
http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/838 (http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/838)
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: Murdock on October 06, 2010, 05:25:29 am
I'd recommend opening a trac ticket and posting this data to it at svn.linuxmce.org
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: esev on October 06, 2010, 05:52:30 am
Thanks for the suggestion.  I opened a ticket.  If I find time to work on this I'll post updates on the ticket.

http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/838
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: esev on October 07, 2010, 07:30:26 am
With TSHACK and MerkWerk's help on IRC tonight I managed to get this remote working on my system.  I've updated the trac ticket with the technical details of what needs to be done.

I also created a page for the remote on the on the wiki.  The Wiki page is a work in progress, but it contains step by step instructions for getting the remote working with the current version of 0810.
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Gyration_GYR4101US (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Gyration_GYR4101US)

Please provide feedback if you are (or aren't) able to get this working on your setup.
Title: Re: Gyration GYR4101US Air Music Remote
Post by: ThinkCentre on October 07, 2010, 02:31:38 pm
Great work! You guys are AWSOME!!