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General => Users => Topic started by: qwertybob482 on December 12, 2008, 07:18:37 am
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I am new to the whole forum thing, as this is my first post, but what I was wondering was if there were any good cameras to use for home surveillance or where to look for such items with decent reviews (I am also new to the searching the web for products too).
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LinuxMCE works best with IP cameras, I use the Panasonic BL-C111A and its sister variants.
-Thom
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LinuxMCE works best with IP cameras, I use the Panasonic BL-C111A and its sister variants.
-Thom
how is the quality of the video at night?
-edit- and thank you for the quick response
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Yet another topic I've been considering, but haven't looked into.. Does wired vs wireless matter? Is there a specific feature that is required for LMCE integration, ie HTTP or FTP transfer?
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Currently, LMCE uses a pull method to pull individual frames from a given camera device.
All the camera DCE device has to do, is respond to the Get Video Frame command, and return a single JPEG frame.
For the IP cameras, this is typically by doing an HTTP GET to a URL that returns a single jpeg frame.
For V4L connected cameras, the Motion application is wrapped, and individual frames are returned in response to Get Video Frame.
Either way, Orbiter triggers successive Get Video Frame commands to display camera pictures, and the Security Plugin triggers Get Video Frame in response to security events if a sensor is linked to a camera as a related device.
-Thom
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lmce switches on the light when taking camera pictures.
br, Hari
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Funny enough, the Lighting Plugin ALSO implements Get Video Frame, for just this reason.
-Thom
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Currently, LMCE uses a pull method to pull individual frames from a given camera device.
All the camera DCE device has to do, is respond to the Get Video Frame command, and return a single JPEG frame.
For the IP cameras, this is typically by doing an HTTP GET to a URL that returns a single jpeg frame.
For V4L connected cameras, the Motion application is wrapped, and individual frames are returned in response to Get Video Frame.
Either way, Orbiter triggers successive Get Video Frame commands to display camera pictures, and the Security Plugin triggers Get Video Frame in response to security events if a sensor is linked to a camera as a related device.
-Thom
Good info. Am I right in assuming wireless/wired makes not difference other than camera setup? Sounds like I can even use a standard USB webcam for those cameras that sit at/near a MD via v4l. This is something I've wanted to play with, but for some reason I had it in my mind that I needed an IP camera.
On the other hand, I didn't realize it was frames only, no video.
On a semi-related topic, can you use the same camera for both security stuff as well as video calls such as "answering" the front door via video? I guess I should search the wiki more, these are topics I haven't looked into much.
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I just got a BL-C131A and am trying to get it working on LMCE 710. Can someone walk me through the steps they've taken to get this little bugger working.
I've gotten it functional through a regular web browser. and I've tried adding it to the system using the steps in the wiki under "IP Cameras" but that didnt' work. I've added it as a child device under the motion wrapper plugin, no luck. I've also added it under the "survelliance camera" section, with it saying that its controlled by the core.
one thing i know i'm probably doing wrong is the entry into the path setting. I put it in.
/CgiStart?page=Single&Resolution=320x240&Quality=Standard&Mode=JPEG&RPeriod=65535&Size=STD&PresetOperation=Move&SendMethod=1&Language=0
which is what i copied off the browser when logged into panasonics web interface. I've seen short path inputs, and tried them, but still nothing
I'm desperate for help!!
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Small addition to previous posted info,
motion can wrap USB, v4l and ip cameras. The advantage of using motion is "motion detection" and recording apropriate videos.
HTH,
regards,
Bulek.
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Are the panasonic ip cameras plug and play?
the wiki article on "monitor survelliance cameras" says that most ip cameras are.
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Yes, they are.
-Thom
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As a follow up to the plug n play question. I got my system to see my panasonic ip camera via plug n play, but first strange thing that it did was recognize the wrong ip address. after fixing it in the admin, i reloaded the router and hoped to see an image on my core/hybrid md. still nothing. what's also peculiar is that when i exit out of that screen, the orbiter seems to crash and restart itself, a process that takes about 30 seconds to complete. My guess is the two issues are connected. any ideas?
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As a follow up to the plug n play question. I got my system to see my panasonic ip camera via plug n play, but first strange thing that it did was recognize the wrong ip address. after fixing it in the admin, i reloaded the router and hoped to see an image on my core/hybrid md. still nothing. what's also peculiar is that when i exit out of that screen, the orbiter seems to crash and restart itself, a process that takes about 30 seconds to complete. My guess is the two issues are connected. any ideas?
A lot of ideas, but they all need your effort :-).....
1. explore a bit about how IP cameras work
2. there is probably some URL defined in LMCE device that expresses URL of picture provided by camera. Try that URL outside camera and check....
3. try to learn also from other ip cameras that are supported under lmce...
HTH,
regards,
Bulek.
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Thank you for the point in the right direction.
slow_mo
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Success!!
went back to the wiki pages to read over again the "IP Cameras" article to see if there was anything I missed, than took your advice to see if I could simulate an image capture using a web browser. Once getting that to work i created an analog IP camera under the motion wrapper, and after some more tweaking, and a router reload, it worked. Now i can keep an eye on my 7 week old baby! I posted here my setups for my Panasonic IP camera.
in the configuration field:
netcam_url http://192.168.80.***/cgi/SnapshotJPEG?Resolution=320x240&Quality=Standard
netcam_userpass [username]:[pswd]
Next question is how to I configure LMCE to be able to utilize the pan/scan functionality of this particular IP camera? there are not setup fields in the device screen that seem to relate to moving the camera lens.
Can anyone give me a place to start for this problem?
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Success!!
went back to the wiki pages to read over again the "IP Cameras" article to see if there was anything I missed, than took your advice to see if I could simulate an image capture using a web browser. Once getting that to work i created an analog IP camera under the motion wrapper, and after some more tweaking, and a router reload, it worked. Now i can keep an eye on my 7 week old baby! I posted here my setups for my Panasonic IP camera.
in the configuration field:
netcam_url http://192.168.80.***/cgi/SnapshotJPEG?Resolution=320x240&Quality=Standard
netcam_userpass [username]:[pswd]
Next question is how to I configure LMCE to be able to utilize the pan/scan functionality of this particular IP camera? there are not setup fields in the device screen that seem to relate to moving the camera lens.
Can anyone give me a place to start for this problem?
Not sure, haven't used such camera yet, but... When you click on pan/zoom buttons, then probably proper DCE command is sent to camera device (or parent) and motion probably doesn't do anything on this command....
HTH,