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Title: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: socabomb on July 23, 2008, 01:54:01 am
Hi guys,

There is not anything in the wiki or elsewhere about the WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT that i can find.  Anybody know anything about it, such as linuxmce support or perhapes one around the same price point? 

Thanks.


http://www.homecontrols.com/cgi-bin/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/12155/sesent/00/Wayne-Dalton-Z-Wave-Thermostat
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on August 14, 2008, 12:12:15 pm
this could work with the existing driver. If you decide to buy one i'll add support for it to the new driver.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: yannko on February 18, 2009, 02:37:48 pm
Anybody using this thermostat succesfully in lmce? I would like to integrate this device in our system, it would be great if anybody had some feedback about it!  :)
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on February 18, 2009, 02:42:17 pm
buy one and provide remote access..
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on February 18, 2009, 05:39:42 pm
Looks like a good deal, I might be interested and I wouldn't mind giving you remote access Hari. would I be able to use it as a regular thermostat while you were setting up the zwave side (assuming that it might take you a bit).
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on February 18, 2009, 06:22:10 pm
should only take a few evenings..
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on February 18, 2009, 06:28:19 pm
am I correct in assuming that it is compatible with the MCV z-wave dongle? are the thermostat and the dongle all that I would need?
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/MCV_Z-Wave_Dongle
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: yannko on February 18, 2009, 07:20:36 pm
Is it only compatible with US frequencies, or a European version exists? (I didn't find it so far). If a 868 MHz is on the market, we would try to integrate it in our system. I would keep you aware in that case Hari.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on February 18, 2009, 07:56:34 pm
Horstmann makes units for european frequencies..
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on February 18, 2009, 11:41:17 pm
Hari: I am going to go ahead and order. I will get with you when I get the unit installed, probably mid next week or so and you can hack away.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on February 18, 2009, 11:43:47 pm
cool, catch me on linuxmce-devel when you have the stuff installed..
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on March 04, 2009, 03:36:56 pm
Just an update guys, I got the thermostat installed over the weekend and it works well manually. However there are different zwave control setting types and you have to be mindful when pairing this device. Basically there are three ways you can control this thermostat, Full Control (you guessed it you can control all features such as heat/cool/ tempup/dwn etc), Partial control (uses standard lighting dimmer commands to just raise and lower target temp), and on/off control (just allows you to turn it on/off). Now the first time I bound the thermostat I accidentally was on the wrong type of control and LMCE recognized the thermostat as a light control. I had to re-bind and now it is recognized properly as a thermostat. I only had a small amount of time to play with it but I immediately noticed that the buttons on orbiter are not working properly with this thermostat. Heat/Cool buttons seem to be fine, but all the rest seem to send the wrong command or dont do anything to the thermostat at all. So I will dig into the template and see what I can find out.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on March 04, 2009, 07:00:31 pm
you forgot to add that i had to inspect the serial comms from the old driver just to find out that you did not read the manual :-)
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on March 04, 2009, 11:15:55 pm
Is it only compatible with US frequencies, or a European version exists? (I didn't find it so far). If a 868 MHz is on the market, we would try to integrate it in our system. I would keep you aware in that case Hari.
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Horstmann_AS2_RF

this one is for EU frequencies...
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on March 05, 2009, 04:00:11 am
you forgot to add that i had to inspect the serial comms from the old driver just to find out that you did not read the manual :-)

Yes I would still be at square 1 if it wasnt for Hari's diagnostic services!
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: nate015 on March 06, 2009, 01:17:07 am
Does anyone know how to have it convert to Fahrenheit?

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Can be absolute, like 20, 18, etc., or relative, like +2, -2, etc. The temperature is always in degrees celsius, and the application is expected to convert to Fahrenheit if necesssary.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: qball4 on March 19, 2009, 02:41:47 am
Any progress on this thermostat krys?

Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on March 19, 2009, 02:31:59 pm
its installed, Hari has not had the time yet to write his version of the driver, and I am not sure at this point how exactly to get the buttons on the orbiter to correspond to the correct functions on the thermostat. I just set up a test core with 810 so that Hari can make sure that it will work with the new release. I will keep you guys posted.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: emachala on March 20, 2009, 02:07:46 pm
yes im at the same point as you krys i have 5 WD thermo's  but only some functions are mapped with drivers...  My question is that when it does work properly... ie the temperature up and down function will it also relay current temperature of each thermo   
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on March 20, 2009, 02:21:39 pm
as krysallen was so nice to provide remote access this should work over the next days. The DCE command handling is already there, i need to implement a few z-wave commands and we are set.

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: qball4 on March 20, 2009, 08:03:44 pm
Hari - you're amazing!

So it would be safe at this point to order a couple and replace the ones I currently have?
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on March 20, 2009, 08:38:19 pm
yes im at the same point as you krys i have 5 WD thermo's  but only some functions are mapped with drivers...  My question is that when it does work properly... ie the temperature up and down function will it also relay current temperature of each thermo   
Yes, I believe that will be possible
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: qball4 on May 12, 2009, 11:10:52 pm
...I immediately noticed that the buttons on orbiter are not working properly with this thermostat. Heat/Cool buttons seem to be fine, but all the rest seem to send the wrong command or dont do anything to the thermostat at all.

Are the orbiter button issues worked out with the WD thermostat now? If not, is it a device template issue or a driver issue? (In other words, is it a problem I can help solve or should it be left to an expert like hari)

Thanks,
Matt
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on May 13, 2009, 08:46:02 pm
I think I did implement most of the needed commands on the dce side. It just lacks polling of the actual states and sending events to the climate plugin in that case. That will be implemented soon.

Dunno if the orbiter sends the proper commands. It would help if somebody could look at the output of the dce router log (e.g. with TailDCERouter.sh) and provide me with the exact dce message that gets sent for each action on the orbiter.

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: ccoudsi on June 25, 2009, 07:13:51 am
Hari,

I just installed 810 on a new HD, I'm using “Mi Casa Verde“ USB Dungle, I  have connected 3 Zwave devices, light switch, motion detector, and WaynDalton http://www.homecontrols.com/cgi-bin/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/12155/sesent/00/Wayne-Dalton-Z-Wave-Thermostat (http://www.homecontrols.com/cgi-bin/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/12155/sesent/00/Wayne-Dalton-Z-Wave-Thermostat)

All devices work as expected except the Thermostat as you know, only commands that work are "Heat" & "Cool"
I attached my DCERouter.log, FYI.
Please let me know if there anything I can do to help you out.

Cheers,
Charlie

Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on July 03, 2009, 08:34:41 pm
from the log i see you use +1 and -1 as values for set temp. That is not yet supported. You have to use absolute celcius values.

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: ccoudsi on July 13, 2009, 10:18:15 pm
Hari,
I'm so sorry I missed your reply.
Where do I need to change, so I can use abosolute celcius values??
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on July 13, 2009, 10:19:54 pm
You need to change the jumpers on the actual thermostat to Celcius (see manual) and you can create a scenario for setting an absolute temperature once thats done. Ex: set temp 25 degrees C
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: ccoudsi on July 14, 2009, 04:08:27 am
Krys,
I did that and when I set the temperature to 20 degrees the unit gets the commands but does not change the target, the target is always set for 24 degrees, and current temperature is 32 degrees, here's my log:
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linuxmce@dcerouter:/var/log/pluto$ tail -f DCERouter.log                                                                             
07      07/13/09 18:52:18.596           Received Message from 18 (Asterisk / Office) to -1001 (unknown / ), type 2 id 75 Event:Extensions Status, retry none, parameters: <0xa4de1b90>                                                                                                                       
07      07/13/09 18:52:18.596             Parameter 13(Text): SIP/204:Registered <0xa4de1b90>                                                         
07      07/13/09 18:52:27.344           Event #75 has no handlers <0xa4de1b90>                                                                         
07      07/13/09 18:52:27.344           Received Message from 18 (Asterisk / Office) to -1001 (unknown / ), type 2 id 75 Event:Extensions Status, retry none, parameters: <0xa4de1b90>                                                                                                                       
07      07/13/09 18:52:27.344             Parameter 13(Text): SIP/206:Registered <0xa4de1b90>                                                         
08      07/13/09 18:52:59.341           Received Message from 2 (DCERouter / Office) to 87 (Standard Thermostat / ), type 1 id 193 Command:Off, retry none, parameters: <0xb0df9b90>                                                                                                                         
08      07/13/09 18:52:59.343           Received Message from 2 (DCERouter / Office) to 87 (Standard Thermostat / ), type 1 id 184 Command:Set Level, retry none, parameters: <0xb0df9b90>                                                                                                                   
08      07/13/09 18:52:59.343             Parameter 76(Level): 20 <0xb0df9b90>                                                                         
05      07/13/09 18:52:59.372           Socket::ReceiveData 0xb647e2f0 failed, bytes left 0 start: 3360000 1: 0 1b: 0 2: 0 2b: 0 m_Socket: 35 Incoming_Conn Socket 35 127.0.0.1 <0xb0df9b90>                                                                                                                 
05      07/13/09 18:52:59.372           Socket::ReceiveString2 ReceiveData failed m_Socket: -1 Incoming_Conn Socket 35 127.0.0.1 <0xb0df9b90>         
05      07/13/09 18:52:59.372           TCPIP: Closing connection to -1003 (Router Dev #0) 0xb647e2f0 m_Socket: -1 <0xb0df9b90>                       
05      07/13/09 18:52:59.372           Router::RemoveAndDeleteSocket 0xb647e2f0 -1003 <0xb0df9b90>                                                   
07      07/13/09 18:53:03.676           Event #75 has no handlers <0xa4de1b90>
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: ccoudsi on July 15, 2009, 11:00:43 pm
Hari, Krys,
Any ideas what can cause this behavior with my setup??
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on July 16, 2009, 09:28:20 am
you are sending "set level" instead of "set temperature".

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: ccoudsi on July 17, 2009, 06:09:29 am
Hari,
Here's the problem if you create a scenario using \Webadmin\Wizard\Scenarios you get the problem I had, if you click on the left side "Show devices tree" then click on "my scenarios" then create a climate scenario then it will be Ok, I attached 2 screenshots to explain what I'm talking about
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on July 17, 2009, 11:03:17 am
so the wizard messes the scenario? And you had to create it manually? /me confused..
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: ccoudsi on July 17, 2009, 05:07:11 pm
That's correct, the wizard uses the "set level" command instead "set temperature"
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on July 17, 2009, 06:08:24 pm
ouch, good to know. can you please add a trac ticket.

br, hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on July 17, 2009, 10:21:03 pm
i wasnt aware the wizard created anything... I did mine manually in web admin.
-Krys
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: Murdock on July 20, 2009, 04:17:44 am
Thank you for the information, I've been looking at this as well for purchase.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on August 16, 2009, 11:56:59 pm
I'm now on a clean 810 Alpha2.29 Core.  My Tricklestar Z-Wave is up and running.  I have two Wayne-Dalton Thermostats ready to install.  The question is:  Does the W-D thermostat work correctly in the Fahrenheit mode yet?  If not, is it a template, config or a driver problem and what can I do to help?

I can't use it in the celcius mode because, although I could adjust to it, the rest of the household would go bonkers.

Thanks and let me know what needs to be done so I may help if I can.

Regards,
Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on August 17, 2009, 09:40:37 am
the set-temperature command would need another parameter for the used unit. The z-wave code (and other interface devices) could then handle it.

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on August 17, 2009, 06:06:55 pm
the set-temperature command would need another parameter for the used unit. The z-wave code (and other interface devices) could then handle it.

br, Hari

Hari, thanks for getting back to me so quickly.  

Before I go into my other questions regarding fahrenheit, is the Wayne-Dalton Z-Wave Thermostat fully functional in the Celsius mode using a Tricklestar USB dongle?  If not known, I'll be glad to test it further by changing it from the present fahrenheit, standalone mode to the Celsius mode, including it in my LinuxMCE Tricklestar mesh.  In reading the forum trail, the info kinda died, without really confirming for sure that all of the bugs were out for Celsius and I'm not sure what Z-wave dongle it was being installed with.  I guessed it might have been the MCV.

On the previous topic about fahrenheit, when you say another parameter, is this more source code, a fahrenheit routine per say, that needs to be added to the driver or is it already built in and just needs template structure reworked to be able to accept this farhenheit option in the template configuration and then pass it to the driver?

In other words, is this further driver development, template development or just testing with different parameters?  I've done programming in the past and would be willing to set up the proper programming environment for LinuxMCE if I could contribute more than just using/testing and just giving feedback.  There's enough of us doing that already and expecting a few of you to fix everything for everyone.

Thanks again,
Charles

Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on August 18, 2009, 06:27:15 pm
the dongle/remote does not matter, and we should be able to fix any glitches fairly quick.

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on August 18, 2009, 07:23:20 pm
the dongle/remote does not matter, and we should be able to fix any glitches fairly quick.

br, Hari

Thanks Hari, off to the hospital, a friend is having 2 operations today.  I will be installing this pm.

Best Regards,
Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on August 18, 2009, 09:46:10 pm
Rocketlynx:
There are many of us who now own this thermostat and I believe most of us are interested in the Farenheit conversion. I for one would be willing to chip in to send one of these units to a dev to have the work done the correct way so that the thermostat would be fully functional ie: works in both F and C and allows the user to see the current temp from the orbiter and (+,-) one degree and set a specific temp.

At one point Hari and I had worked out a recipient for this deal and he agreed to do the coding if we sent that person a thermostat for testing (unfortunately that person doesn't have central heat and air). So what I recommend is if Hari is still willing, would be to buy a test unit send it to whoever Hari selects and let him do the work since he is the expert in this field.

Hari: let us know if you are still interested and if the conditions are agreeable

Anyone who has this thermostat: state if you would be interested in donating to see this thing fully functional.

-Krys
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on August 19, 2009, 01:21:23 pm
I don't care where it is installed when I can get SSH access to the core..

br, hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on August 19, 2009, 01:47:59 pm
I don't care where it is installed when I can get SSH access to the core..

br, hari
OK Hari, You got it.  Just tell me how soon you want it and I'll make sure you can SSH in.

Never doing this before for LinuxMCE, I presume you need my external IP, and also, my main password, I guess.

Tell me what ports or port range I open up and forward to my Core's internal IP assigned by my external router.  I can do that ASAP (I've done port forwarding in the past but I'm not sure what ports I need for LinuxMCE's Core).  And lastly, is this just TCP or UDP or both?

If you contact me at my LinuxMCE personal message email address, I'll get the email on my Blackberry ASAP so there won't be any delay in communucating with each other.

Thanks again and Best Regards,
Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: Murdock on September 12, 2009, 06:15:36 pm
Hello all - Any updates on this item?
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on September 13, 2009, 01:13:06 am
Hello all - Any updates on this item?
I haven't heard any.  My offer still holds, Hari said if he could get SSH access, he would look at it but I'm sure he's as busy as everyone else is, working on 810's Alpha2 problems.  I'll open it up whenever he or someone else has the time.  I have two Wayne Daltons working but needing Fahrenheit in a bad way before I can re-include them back into my Z-Wave mesh.

Thanks,
Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on September 14, 2009, 01:47:19 pm
I've added temp readouts recently, the proper events should be sent now. Did anybody test the latest version on 0810?
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on September 14, 2009, 04:21:28 pm
I've added temp readouts recently, the proper events should be sent now. Did anybody test the latest version on 0810?

Hari, although I need Fahrenheit, I'll set my temps for Celsius and rebind them today and check it out.

Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on September 14, 2009, 04:33:34 pm
ill see if i can update today and check mine out
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on September 14, 2009, 06:13:46 pm
I've added temp readouts recently, the proper events should be sent now. Did anybody test the latest version on 0810?

Hari, although I need Fahrenheit, I'll set my temps for Celsius and rebind them today and check it out.

Charles
don't get me wrong, no offense, but everybody uses the metric system.. besides.. you get it. So I don't really feel like adding fahrenheit support, I have no use for it. I will assist by doing the z-wave dce device side. But somebody needs to extend the DCE command set temperature, the web admin, the orbiter and add a system wide option for it.

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on September 14, 2009, 06:51:38 pm
I've added temp readouts recently, the proper events should be sent now. Did anybody test the latest version on 0810?

Hari, although I need Fahrenheit, I'll set my temps for Celsius and rebind them today and check it out.

Charles
don't get me wrong, no offense, but everybody uses the metric system.. besides.. you get it. So I don't really feel like adding fahrenheit support, I have no use for it. I will assist by doing the z-wave dce device side. But somebody needs to extend the DCE command set temperature, the web admin, the orbiter and add a system wide option for it.

br, Hari
No offense taken Hari, and thanks for getting back to me.  Yes you are correct, I do get it.  But no one else in the house does without confusion.  Here in the US, and quite possibly we're behind the rest of the world, everybody grew up referencing temperatures using the Fahrenheit table.  So the "Celsius" world for most folks that I know is annoying because there exists constant translation, it doesn’t happen naturally for them.

I've done programming in the past so I don't mind getting my hands dirty if need be.  I've been preparing to set up a development core for LinuxMCE anyway and this will just give me the reason to not put it off any longer.

Again, I appreciate all that you and many others have contributed to the LinuxMCE project.  It's a wonderful and feature rich product.

Best Regards,
Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on September 14, 2009, 07:07:48 pm
ok, cool, get your env prepared. I'm just adding a "unit" parameter to the set temp command. Merkur offered help with extending the web admin:
18:20 < merkur2k> im sure i can handle the web admin side, i just cant test it

br, Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on September 14, 2009, 07:27:11 pm
ok, cool, get your env prepared. I'm just adding a "unit" parameter to the set temp command. Merkur offered help with extending the web admin:
18:20 < merkur2k> im sure i can handle the web admin side, i just cant test it

br, Hari

Thanks, hopefully by tomorrow, my test core will be up and running.  In the mean time, I'll switch my 2 Thermostats on my working system to Celsius to test your added temp readouts.  Also, as I said before, I'll be glad to open my system up to a developer to dig into if they so desire, especially if I get into trouble.
 
Thanks, Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on September 14, 2009, 11:29:33 pm
I've added temp readouts recently, the proper events should be sent now. Did anybody test the latest version on 0810?

Hari, I've got one of my Wayne Daltons set to Celsius and bound to my Z-Wave mesh and LinuxMCE recognizes it properly as a standard thermostat.  I've tested the My Scenario buttons and they all command the thermostat properly and it responds as requested.  However, the scenario buttons for +1 and -1 degree fail and both set the thermostat immediatley to 2.0C when pressed. 

Also, the Climate Floorplan never shows a change, it shows the thermostat at On/Cool (25) no matter what the setting or the thermostat is really set for or currently reading.  Is the floorplan display and functions still not finished?

Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: donpaul on September 23, 2009, 03:26:42 am
Any progress on the thermostat? I was going to order a couple, but will hold off if they aren't supported in LinuxMCE yet.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on September 23, 2009, 04:18:53 pm
I've added temp readouts recently, the proper events should be sent now. Did anybody test the latest version on 0810?

Hari, I've got one of my Wayne Daltons set to Celsius and bound to my Z-Wave mesh and LinuxMCE recognizes it properly as a standard thermostat.  I've tested the My Scenario buttons and they all command the thermostat properly and it responds as requested.  However, the scenario buttons for +1 and -1 degree fail and both set the thermostat immediatley to 2.0C when pressed. 

Also, the Climate Floorplan never shows a change, it shows the thermostat at On/Cool (25) no matter what the setting or the thermostat is really set for or currently reading.  Is the floorplan display and functions still not finished?

Charles

Charles,
I know that Hari told me at one point that only absolute values have been programmed at this point ie: 23, 42, 12. relative values have not yet been implemented, +1, -1 etc.

Donpaul,
Hari has done some work on the zwave driver for the thermostat and it can be turned on/off, switched between heat/cool, and you can set it to an absolute temperature (for temp adjustment the thermostat must be in Celsius mode, and the temp sent must be in Celsius). Hari has no desire to do the work to convert from C to F as he is in Europe and doesn't need it. SO, long story short... the ground work has been laid and currently the thermostat is partially functional, all we need now is someone with some programming experience to step up and tie up the loose ends. Unfortunately no one as of yet has been able to tackle this project.
-Krys
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on September 23, 2009, 05:50:10 pm
+1 / -1 needs a bit more work on my side, my brain is already preparing the code. Regarding F/C, I don't even have a working thermostat here right now.

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rocketlynx on September 23, 2009, 09:34:00 pm
I've added temp readouts recently, the proper events should be sent now. Did anybody test the latest version on 0810?

Hari, I've got one of my Wayne Daltons set to Celsius and bound to my Z-Wave mesh and LinuxMCE recognizes it properly as a standard thermostat.  I've tested the My Scenario buttons and they all command the thermostat properly and it responds as requested.  However, the scenario buttons for +1 and -1 degree fail and both set the thermostat immediatley to 2.0C when pressed.  

Also, the Climate Floorplan never shows a change, it shows the thermostat at On/Cool (25) no matter what the setting or the thermostat is really set for or currently reading.  Is the floorplan display and functions still not finished?

Charles

Charles,
I know that Hari told me at one point that only absolute values have been programmed at this point ie: 23, 42, 12. relative values have not yet been implemented, +1, -1 etc.

Donpaul,
Hari has done some work on the zwave driver for the thermostat and it can be turned on/off, switched between heat/cool, and you can set it to an absolute temperature (for temp adjustment the thermostat must be in Celsius mode, and the temp sent must be in Celsius). Hari has no desire to do the work to convert from C to F as he is in Europe and doesn't need it. SO, long story short... the ground work has been laid and currently the thermostat is partially functional, all we need now is someone with some programming experience to step up and tie up the loose ends. Unfortunately no one as of yet has been able to tackle this project.
-Krys

OK Guys, Thanks for all of the responses.  I've got some programming experience so I'll be able to help as soon as I get time from my real job to set up my Development system.  I'm already using my Wayne-Daltons in the Fahrenheit mode, albeit, a little crippled.  I've got them set in the "F", Fahrenheit modes and I can send them Celsius commands and they respond with the appropriate Fahrenheit temp.  This is not the greatest way of doing things but it keeps all of the household from going "Bonkers".  

Now, for example if I want the downstairs thermostat to go to around 80F degrees at night, because all of our bedrooms are upstairs, I set up a timed event for the downstairs thermostat at 11:00pm, with a Set-Temperature of 27.  When the command goes out, the thermostat immediately responds and changes the target temp to "81F which is a rounded equivalent from 27.22C the equal of 81F".  

Since there is no exact conversion from two-digit Celsius  to two-digit Fahrenheit, you cannot get the exact temp you might want with this work-around.

The unit and LinuxMCE will round it to the closest Fahrenheit setting, hence, 25C = 77F, 26C gets you 79F and 27C responds with 81F on the thermostat.  Theoretically, to set 78 degrees Fahrenheit, you would need to send the command of 25.55C but this gets ignored and rounded down to 25C and the result is 77F.  

This results in many desired target temps being unachievable but this is only a temporary fix and I admit, this is a very awkward way of things behaving but it lets me use the Wayne-Dalton units temporarily in the Fahrenheit mode.

Also, since the +1 and -1 temp sets do not work in either Celsius or Fahrenheit modes, I have just created and array of many "My Scenarios" Orbiter buttons with many different temp settings for both my Upstairs and Downstairs Wayne-Dalton Thermostats.

This gets me by and I will hopefully be set up and working on a final fix with you guys by this weekend.  When I got my Thermoststs, I guess I thought the Orbiter templates read out the correct current temperatures when in the Celsius mode but when I saw that that also wasn't completed, I said, screw it, I'll stay in the crippled, Fahrenheit mode until we get it right for all who need it in either mode!

Charles
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: donpaul on September 24, 2009, 05:02:00 am
This gets me by and I will hopefully be set up and working on a final fix with you guys by this weekend.  When I got my Thermoststs, I guess I thought the Orbiter templates read out the correct current temperatures when in the Celsius mode but when I saw that that also wasn't completed, I said, screw it, I'll stay in the crippled, Fahrenheit mode until we get it right for all who need it in either mode!

Charles

Thanks Charles, that's awesome! My wife would bludgeon me daily if I made her use Celsius!
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: blackoper on October 22, 2009, 11:47:09 pm
Any updates on this? I really like this thermostat but am waiting until it has been fixed/ironed out.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: Sami on November 25, 2009, 10:11:35 pm
Horstmann makes units for european frequencies..


Hari,

to be honest I'm not a linux user but I was searching for a European z-wave thermostat and found your post, on another forum a user has actually bought the device but it won't communicate with the z-wave controller, it can only be controlled through the factory supplied unit.

do you know of any other alternatives ? or other methods , I heard that I can get a wifi based thermostat and still be able to control it from a controller that  supports z-wave & wifi ? is this possible ?  if I bought the hortsmann one do you think its possible to be able to control it ?

your help is appreciated.

sami
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rperre on November 30, 2009, 07:11:04 am
I keep seeing that there is no exact translation from Celcius to Fahrenheit, there is.....
To get Celcius you do (F-32)*5/9 gives Celcius
The other way around (C*9/5)+32 gives Fahrenheit

Maybe they meant no rounded numbers, but just calculate and round it off, or for all i care forget about the decimals and just set the thermostat to the calculated temp.

I just got mine in (thanks tkmedia) so i'll join the effort in troubleshooting.

Richard
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rperre on December 25, 2009, 07:35:19 pm
Would anybody mind updating the Wayne Dalton Thermostat wiki for setting this up.

I tried to manually add it after binding it to the Zwave dongle, but it doesn't seem to do anything?

I wanted to add in getting the +1 -1 working in Fahrenheit, since my family doesn't do any math anymore :)

Richard
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: rperre on December 28, 2009, 03:25:24 am
OK, installed the device and it's connected to my zwave dongle, everything well.

Now can somebody sent me to the right direction of trying to get this +/- thing worked out and also to show Fahrenheit in lmce, i can read Celcius but the rest of the USA.......... 8-) it's showing 21 while it should be showing 70 :P

I looked at the code for the plugin and would like to try some stuff, but just wanted to know if somebody else is working on this at the moment.

If you can just give me a pointer, i'll figure out the rest.

Richard
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: krys on December 28, 2009, 04:15:42 pm
Hari has done all of the work so far, i think the rest of us either don't know how to finish it up or don't have the time. Hop on the developer channel in IRC and Hari ask some questions, or wait till Hari responds in this thread.
-Krys
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: acald on January 12, 2010, 03:04:03 pm
I'm new at LinuxMCE (have tried setting it up a few times and some device kills the install) but I am thinking ahead and I am very interested in having the thermostat working with it. 

And like and earlier commenter said, my wife would not be too pleased if all of the sudden the thermostat was in C°.

Thanks for all of the hard work.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: stefan on October 17, 2010, 02:19:27 pm
Hi Everyone,

I have this thermostat installed with LinuxMCE 810. It works fine with scenarios that I created and I use it in C. The only problem is that on the Orbiters the setpoint temperature stays at 255. Everything else is fine. So for example here's how it looks:
ON/AUTO/AUTO/255 (21.0)

On the thermostat itself the setpoint is correct (i.e. as set by the scenario). So I think it's a problem with how the value is displayed or stored internally.

Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: Murdock on January 17, 2011, 02:12:37 am
I received one for Christmas and just installed it today. The MCV dongle binding occurred without issue, LMCE picked it up as a climate control component. I understand that the functionality is not yet present in MCE to allow for Farenheit, though for everyone in the household i'm leaving it in farenheit mode.

I am seeing the same item as stefan is in terms of:
ON/AUTO/AUTO/255 (23.0)

The functionality additions in trac ticket 552 (http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/552 (http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/552)) looks like:

Is there still developer interest in this?

I'm looking through the 810 code now to look and see what the relavent areas are, if anyone could point me to the relavent sections I'd appreciate it.
Thank you,

Ryan

Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: nightcanton on February 06, 2011, 08:53:42 pm
I just bought one of these wd thermostats and have the MCV usb dongle.

I plug the MCV dongle into the server and it loads up the 'lighting wizard'.

I've tried to setup a climate device/scenario but can't get this to work.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: m3freak on February 08, 2011, 04:49:18 pm
I have one as well, however I can't yet install: I need to run a separate 24v wire to the thermostat for power.  I may need an electrician to do the install.

It's good to hear the thermostat mostly works in LinuxMCE.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: tkmedia on February 08, 2011, 06:03:50 pm
I have one as well, however I can't yet install: I need to run a separate 24v wire to the thermostat for power.  I may need an electrician to do the install.

It's good to hear the thermostat mostly works in LinuxMCE.

This may help save the cost of an electrician.

http://www.venstar.com/Thermostats/ACC0410/

Tim

Heads up on the WD thermostat they are discontinued..  Seems there was an issue with some draining batteries even with the 24v c wire connected.

Find a replacement here

http://lmcecompatible.com/#ecwid:category=280112&mode=product&product=839079

I have been using mine on battery power only for two months now.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: tkmedia on February 08, 2011, 06:08:03 pm
I just bought one of these wd thermostats and have the MCV usb dongle.

I plug the MCV dongle into the server and it loads up the 'lighting wizard'.

I've tried to setup a climate device/scenario but can't get this to work.

Any thoughts?

Battery operated devices work best in suc/sis mode
You can add a minimote or other zwave controller to you zwave net to enable sus/sis mode.
http://lmcecompatible.com/#ecwid:category=280103&mode=product&product=1319545


HTH

Tim
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: nightcanton on February 12, 2011, 04:01:57 pm
so is there a good how to to do this?  i've followed everything on this post, the mcv dongle wiki, and the wayne dalton thermostat intsall page but csant get it working.  thoughts?
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on February 13, 2011, 04:27:27 pm
so is there a good how to to do this?  i've followed everything on this post, the mcv dongle wiki, and the wayne dalton thermostat intsall page but csant get it working.  thoughts?
"can't get it working" is not a verbosive problem description... maybe you might want to elaborate a bit more?

br Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: nightcanton on March 06, 2011, 10:42:42 pm
I followed the steps in the wiki.  But I can't seem to even figure out if it is installed correctly.   Even when I go to the admin page I don't really see any way to setup the thermostat.

I took 2 screenshots and can take more if needed.  I would greatly appreciate the help.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on March 07, 2011, 02:03:06 pm
I followed the steps in the wiki.  But I can't seem to even figure out if it is installed correctly. 
the screenshots look ok. What exactly is your problem?

br Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: nightcanton on March 20, 2011, 12:23:08 am
So are you saying based on the screen shots the MCV dongle looks to be installed?

If so, then my next question is to actually connect the thermostat and configure it.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: hari on March 20, 2011, 06:56:25 pm
So are you saying based on the screen shots the MCV dongle looks to be installed?

If so, then my next question is to actually connect the thermostat and configure it.
it is already connected (device #44). Regarding configuration please consult the manual of the device.

br Hari
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: nightcanton on May 01, 2011, 11:16:40 pm
So I got it connected.  Both the Zwave mcv dongle and the thermostat are installed and paired. (The Zwave symbol on the wayne dalton themostat is blinking.)

Now I'm trying to change the scenarios but no matter what I don't see a change in the thermostat itself.  Thoughts on the picture?
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: blackoper on May 06, 2011, 04:10:41 pm
so it appears the InTouch CA8900 is the same exact model as the wayne-dalton WDTC-20 but with the much lower price of $45 at some retailers. Looks exactly the same except for the rebranding. I may pick one up
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: tkmedia on May 06, 2011, 06:10:18 pm
so it appears the InTouch CA8900 is the same exact model as the wayne-dalton WDTC-20 but with the much lower price of $45 at some retailers. Looks exactly the same except for the rebranding. I may pick one up

Not sure if this one has the same defect of killing batteries as the WDTC-20 which has been discontinued due to that fact.



Tim
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: blackoper on May 18, 2011, 05:09:32 pm
Not sure if this one has the same defect of killing batteries as the WDTC-20 which has been discontinued due to that fact.



Tim

It was only killing batteries before i could hook up the 24vac connection to it. Now that I've got the power to it, it isn't even using batteries. If the power goes out it goes through batteries about every two days.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: posde on May 18, 2011, 05:29:56 pm
It was only killing batteries before i could hook up the 24vac connection to it. Now that I've got the power to it, it isn't even using batteries.

I wonder how much energy it uses over the course of a year.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: Newguy2 on May 18, 2011, 06:09:01 pm
So I got it connected.  Both the Zwave mcv dongle and the thermostat are installed and paired. (The Zwave symbol on the wayne dalton themostat is blinking.)

Now I'm trying to change the scenarios but no matter what I don't see a change in the thermostat itself.  Thoughts on the picture?

Go to Advanced=>Configuration. Scroll down to scenario commands. Go to device=>select Standard Thermostat=>click add.  next to standard thermostat=>set temperature.  put the desired C° Temperature in "the Value To Assign (string) box".   If your thermostat is set to read F°, just put the C° equivalent in the "Value To Assign (string) box.  Do a quick reload router and reload orbiters. 
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: blackoper on June 06, 2011, 06:46:19 pm
I wonder how much energy it uses over the course of a year.

with two 2900 mAh batter at 1.5 volts, it last around two days. Each AA battery provides 4.35 watts total so that gives us 4.35 watts per day. Divide by 24 to get watt hour and that would be .18 watts/hr. Total comes out to about 1.58 KWH a year. For me that costs a total of .10 cents yearly
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: posde on June 06, 2011, 07:36:06 pm
That calculation expects 100% effectivity from the PSU.
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: blackoper on June 07, 2011, 04:07:55 pm
That calculation expects 100% effectivity from the PSU.

Ok we will assume 50% effieciency... .20 cents a year  :D
Title: Re: WAYNE-DALTON Z-WAVE® THERMOSTAT
Post by: davegravy on January 07, 2012, 11:43:37 pm
Sorry for digging up this old thread, but a few Qs:

1) did +/- relative adjustments ever get implemented? it doesn't work on my unit, so I assume not, but I also don't see a trac ticket.

2) Is there an event that triggers correctly when measured temperature changes? I see one in the advanced event editor, but it never  triggers.

3) Is there a console command (MessageSend?) which will return the current thermostat measured temperature?

4) Is there a console command (MessageSend?) which will return the current thermostat set-temperature?

I'd like write a script to poll these values and log my furnace's duty cycle.