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Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: wombiroller on June 10, 2008, 04:56:48 am
Hi rodercot,

What format are you ripping them to? If you're doing it in ISO this should be fine but you will need to rename them from .iso to .dvd for LMCE to identify them as DVD media.

Also - any reason why you don't just copy directly from the Core? Makes the whole process (including getting attributes) much better/quicker.

Cheers,
WR.
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: colinjones on June 10, 2008, 06:25:58 am
wombiroller - you don't need to rename them anymore, LMCE recognises .iso's now.... but agreed, yes you should definitely use LMCE to do the rip (assuming they are not some of the rare instances were it can't rip them)
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: wombiroller on June 10, 2008, 02:02:17 pm
wombiroller - you don't need to rename them anymore, LMCE recognises .iso's now.... but agreed, yes you should definitely use LMCE to do the rip (assuming they are not some of the rare instances were it can't rip them)

Oops - thanks colinsjones - obviously missed that one.
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: Zaerc on June 10, 2008, 06:18:25 pm
Is there any particular reason why you're not just "ripping" (copying) the DVDs under lmce?
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: royw on June 11, 2008, 08:11:22 am
I reset the attributes and updates and then resync'd the entire Public/Other .* a couple times but still I still do not see them in Videos either in ALL-ALL or in Movies-DVD.
I set the cover art and attributes for all then reysync the entire other folder including all 9 shares but the movies still will not be seen in UI in the videos section (ALL-ALL)

I'd suggest setting one of the shares to use "Pluto's structure", then rip a dvd to public/data/videos.  Then see if this movie shows up as you expect in the UI.  If so, then copy/move one of your already ripped movies to public/data/videos, then synchronize the directory using pluto admin, Media Files Sync.  Hopefully your movie will now show up in the UI.

Also the directory names (public/other) should be lower case.

HTH,
Roy
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: royw on June 12, 2008, 01:32:00 am
I also read something on the wiki about file lock for dvd copying - when it is a good time to use this option?

I use it when I'm messing with files in a LMCE "owned" data directory from the CLI.  Usually batch moving, sometimes using 3rd party ripping tools (actually I usually do this in a non LMCE "owned" directory then lock and move the file(s)).

HTH,
Roy
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: royw on June 12, 2008, 07:10:30 pm
So I have most of my movies sync'd. All my movies are in tower/Movies/MovieName/Video_ts in the public/data/other directory. My question is two fold, I have a directory of movies that I want no one else to access or see. Where do I create that folder and how should I move the folder of movies over to the newly created folder.

I use "Pluto's Structure" in which case you would use user_1/data/... for your first defined user.

I haven't tried AVI files, hopefully someone else can help you.

While the dvd attribute lookup is cool, I'm not impressed with amazon's data (biased to currently for sale dvds, particularly the dual or triple packaging, lack of genre attributes, lack of title attributes, incorrect titles, etc...) so have given up on it and am replacing the file attributes with good data from DvdProfiler.

Have fun,
Roy

Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: freymann on June 13, 2008, 04:51:11 am
One more thing I am not sure if it is a bug with LMCE or with Amazon, if I am searching for a movie via title and it finds only one hit and then I click assign cover art it refreshes but does not attach the cover art to the title. The only reason I mention this is that I notice it will work sometimes but not all the time, I just research via an actor or director to get more then one hit to fic the problem.

 I had copied (via Samba shares) a Steve Miller Band .mpg file, which was a recorded television show on my MythBuntu system, into the public/movies/Music_Vids directory on my core, and in the admin web page > Files & Media > Media Files Sync, changed the attribute to "Music Videos" and saved. When I went to look again, it was back to the default. Tried again, same thing.

 I ended up having to change the owner on the file, on the core to root, then doing the above step, and it stuck. I wonder if this is a bug?
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: royw on June 13, 2008, 07:21:41 am
I ended up having to change the owner on the file, on the core to root, then doing the above step, and it stuck. I wonder if this is a bug?

Yes, all media needs to be owned by root:public.  Sorry, I had this mentally keyed to NFS share problems...

Example from my media drive in my core/hybrid:
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$ ls -l /home/public/data/videos/WDC_WD10EACS-00Z\ \(sdb1\)-CORE\ \[33\]/Action/The*
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root public 7910522880 2008-06-11 16:21 /home/public/data/videos/WDC_WD10EACS-00Z (sdb1)-CORE [33]/Action/The Medallion.dvd
-rw-r--r-- 1 root public      16384 2008-06-12 01:45 /home/public/data/videos/WDC_WD10EACS-00Z (sdb1)-CORE [33]/Action/The Medallion.dvd.id3
-rw-r--r-- 1 root public        847 2008-06-11 16:21 /home/public/data/videos/WDC_WD10EACS-00Z (sdb1)-CORE [33]/Action/The Medallion.dvd.keys.tar.gz

Also directory ownership + permissions should be:

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$ ls -l /home/public/data/videos/WDC_WD10EACS-00Z\ \(sdb1\)-CORE\ \[33\]/
drwxr-sr-x 2 root public       4096 2008-06-12 03:05 Animation

HTH,
Roy
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: tschak909 on June 14, 2008, 01:45:08 am
*hmm*

LinuxMCE has built in facilities to rip DVD movies... if you use those, no problem whatsoever....

-Thom
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: tschak909 on June 14, 2008, 02:18:54 am
please do not yell at the people who are trying to help...

look man, i'm sorry you're going through hell..

I'm not sure why your updatemedia process is tagging the .avi files as Doc Viewer....it shouldn't be in any case. I've been looking over the code, and I can't find any reason as to why this is happening as you describe.

-Thom
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: tschak909 on June 14, 2008, 02:52:41 pm
The LinuxMCE file structure is pretty consistent here, although we do plan to improve it....

/home
   public
      data   
         audio
         video
         documents
         ....

and then for each user, user_1, user_2, user_3, which correspond to the first user entered into the web admin, the second user entered, the third user entered, etc.

/home
   public
      data   
         audio
         videos
         documents
         ....
  user_1
    data
        audio
        videos
        documents
        ....

-Thom
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: tschak909 on June 14, 2008, 06:09:18 pm
there is nothing hard coded in this way, believe it or not.... We do not honor filesystem structure in any way except for the top most levels (when using LinuxMCE Folder Structure) to merely cause updatemedia to look in those locations when media is scanned....

Right now, for audio, the ID3 tags are used to add Attributes to each and every media file, that it finds.

read that again.

We don't use the hierarchical position of the files on disk to determine what goes where, at all... When we rip, we do put things in Artist > album > track order, but this is coincidental.

You see, by default (and the default IS currently hard-coded), items are sorted by their Title attributes....

and in the case of audio, everything is sorted by artist (Performer), then Album, then track..but this can be changed with the sort options in the file list. (no there is currently no way yet to persist that.)

In the media subsystem, we only deal with attributes. The Filename sort option bypasses this.

I know it's a bit weird.. but once we get media identification debugged, this is the right way to do it. I do NOT _EVER_ want to see files and folders in a media subsystem..ever... and no, nothing you can do to convince me of that. :-)

-Thom
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: royw on June 14, 2008, 07:43:01 pm
I know it's a bit weird.. but once we get media identification debugged, this is the right way to do it. I do NOT _EVER_ want to see files and folders in a media subsystem..ever... and no, nothing you can do to convince me of that. :-)

You piqued my curiosity. Why?  Is it the hybrid usage with the necessary sync'ing between file system and db?  And what would you prefer instead?  Slurp all media files into a db?

I just reread what I just wrote and want to emphasize it is curiosity, not negativity.


Have fun,
Roy
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: tschak909 on June 14, 2008, 07:44:42 pm
because filesystem hierarchies are TERRIBLE. If we use the database, we can create a system that avoids the problem of, "oh crap, what folder did I put that in?" .. it just means that we need to make our metadata population better.

-Thom
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: royw on June 15, 2008, 01:02:57 pm
So for the folder which I am referring to that i need to move. In the webadmin I would grap the folder with all its files and move it to user_1/videos is that correct.
On the other issue of moving the video folder, was I correct in using the user_1 video folder. I have not moved those files yet. I just want to be sure that is where I need to move it to.

I believe it should be user_1/data/videos

HTH,
Roy
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: freymann on June 15, 2008, 02:44:36 pm
When I click on GOLD it takes me into the tracks on the album but from the GOLD (album window) for that artist there is no option to just select play from one of the albums under that artist. I hope this makes sense.

 I found that rather confusing at first too.

 When you have found your music, by finding Abba and seeing the list of albums, you have to click on an album to display the tunes, then click on MORE across the bottom and then PLAY ALL.

 When your tunes are playing, if you hit F7 or click on the middle gyro mouse button to bring up the menu again, on the far left, click that media button and you can find the RANDOM option up top.

 I believe, if you want to add more music to the queue, while somehting is playing, you have to do the MORE and PLAY ALL buttons to add them to the list. This sometimes works for me and other times it just replaces the current queue with what I selected.

 I have no idea how you manage playlists in LinuxMCE, but that's something I really haven't sat down and tried to figured out yet.

 I don't know how you tell it to play "all of Abba's songs", I find it wants to be told to play a specific song or an entire album.

 Is there a wiki page with user instructions on how to access music? or photos for that matter, I have no idea how you make it play all photos in a folder...

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On the other issue of moving the video folder, was I correct in using the user_1 video folder. I have not moved those files yet. I just want to be sure that is where I need to move it to.

 If you put them into the /home/user_1/data/* directory, they will 'private' files owned by the first user you added to the system.

 If you want files to be public, they should be into /home/public/data/*

 I also find that you need to fiddle with the owner:group and set them to root:public if you want some of the attributes to work, even if I've copied them into the public folders using the Samba shares. When in the media file sync admin area, if I try to set the attribute to "Music Video" or "Movie" it doesn't 'stick'. I go look at the ownership and I see plutu_gerry:public. I change it to root:public, try again, and it works.

 I don't know if that's the way it's supposed to work or not, seems kinda odd that you'd have to go fiddling with permissions in order to set attributes in the admin pages.
Title: Re: Adding NEW DVD Movies
Post by: freymann on June 15, 2008, 03:42:14 pm
Thanks Freyman,

 That is the answer I have been looking for. I will try that later. I agree I would assume that we should not have to edit any permission once the server is on-line with the system. This would be a bomb waiting to go off for a non-technical person. somewhat like me.  Did you get cover art for all your albums and tracks within those albums or did you have to apply attributes individually to each song.

 Glad to help!

 As to the music cover art, I have a large collection of MP3 files (20GB) that I've pruned over time to include the proper ID3 tags. Most of this originated on my Windoze system, under Media Player, so there are a variety of images in each directory that Media Player understands, but when this collection was transferred into LinuxMCE, sometimes I see cover art and sometimes I don't. The same collection, when managed with RhythmBox under Ubuntu appears as it should with cover art.

 My collection is too large for me to bother with it under LinuxMCE. As long as I can find and play the tunes, I'm happy with that. All the ID3 tags seem to be working so using the filters works... with one little problem, under Genre, I have too many types that don't fit in between the top and bottom, so I can't select "Country" for instance, but I see other Genre's I don't care about it listed.