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Title: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on February 02, 2008, 02:02:48 am
Have been searching the forums and wiki for info on how to get this working on my HTPC case. The only references I can find seem to talk about devices (eg /etc/lcd0) and conf files that simply don't seem to exist on my 0710b3 build. Did a lsusb ... nothing there....

Anybody any idea on how to get this going? I realise that at the moment only Myth (and VDR?) use this and the rest of the time it just shows a clock or something else, but at the moment it just permanently displays a line of _____ and then a couple of different height bars on the far right and never changes even when the system is off! Gotta be able to get something better than that!

Cheers.

Col.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on February 02, 2008, 10:16:00 am
Oh my.. I just bought this case yesterday!

I'm gonna install it tomorrow, so it doesn't work well?

Head over to the ubuntu-forums, I know I saw a thread there which solved *all* the problems (that's why I decided to buy that case :))
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on February 02, 2008, 09:31:35 pm
Don't worry, guys, LMCE doesn't support VFD displays except a three models: Crystal Fontz USB/RS232, IRTrans - Dign VFD and Media Live LCD/Buttons. The rest can be just used by MythTV or VDR. IMHO it'd be great to have some generic VFD interface which will communicate with LCD server as a client. In that case it'd be doesn't matter what model of VFD you have.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on February 03, 2008, 12:39:19 am
Lol! Then what's not to worry!? :P

Now you're saying "yeah, tough luck, you bought a useless case" :P Well, I got the vfd to work now, still have nooo idea how to get that IR receiver to function, though...

*Edit: I got the VFD to work only on the system itself, so I can output my own messages to it, but nothing more (linuxmce doesn't support it, as he said...)
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: hari on February 03, 2008, 01:32:12 am
Lol! Then what's not to worry!? :P

Now you're saying "yeah, tough luck, you bought a useless case" :P Well, I got the vfd to work now, still have nooo idea how to get that IR receiver to function, though...

*Edit: I got the VFD to work only on the system itself, so I can output my own messages to it, but nothing more (linuxmce doesn't support it, as he said...)

should be easy to interface lcdproc from a GSD. iirc it only needs to implement two commands for basic usage (see the existing VFD code/device template)

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: totallymaxed on February 03, 2008, 02:05:18 am
Don't worry, guys, LMCE doesn't support VFD displays except a three models: Crystal Fontz USB/RS232, IRTrans - Dign VFD and Media Live LCD/Buttons. The rest can be just used by MythTV or VDR. IMHO it'd be great to have some generic VFD interface which will communicate with LCD server as a client. In that case it'd be doesn't matter what model of VFD you have.

Michael I agree it would be good to have a more generalised way to support various VFD's
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: gazlang on February 03, 2008, 01:54:28 pm
I have a soundgraph imon vfd screen on my case. Have it currently running "lcd-stuff" (weather and news feeds) when not watching tv, and myth tv outputs to it fine when tv is on.
You need to use lcd-proc to send to the screen though
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on February 03, 2008, 09:50:49 pm
How do you install lcd-proc? It isn't on my system now - tried apt-get install lcd-proc.... says there is no such package...
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on February 03, 2008, 10:02:23 pm
How do you install lcd-proc? It isn't on my system now - tried apt-get install lcd-proc.... says there is no such package...

Might be an incredible stupid suggestion but ... Have you updated your package list? :P

The first time you use apt-get on linuxmce the package list is rather empty... :)

I also believe it's called lcdproc

This thread really helped me, btw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306437&highlight=antec+fusion

At least I can manually print things out on the screen :D

When will somebody get to coding the thing, anyway? Does any developer want to SSH into *my* device (hey, they did this while developping plcbus drivers :))
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on February 03, 2008, 10:36:37 pm
Not a stupid question, I have no idea how to do that (nor that it needed doing!)

However, you are right, it is lcdproc, and when I tried that it worked fine.

I then followed the instructions in that link you gave... but it fails at:

cat imon-2.6.patch | patch
make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=$PWD modules
sudo make install

Saying that the directory "linux" doesn't exist - which it doesn't on my system. In there there are "linux-headers..." and "linux-headers...-generic" and I tried both of those instead (problably screwing something up!) but still comes back with errors...
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on February 03, 2008, 11:51:06 pm
True, true, the original compile failed on my box too, but that's a pretty old thread, meant for a previous ubuntu version. If you read the entire thread (which is a pain, I know) then you can find a solution... Errr, hold on, I'll try to give you my method:

Install lirc and the lirc-modules-kernel version-generic

After this you need to load the lirc_imon module:

modprobe lirc_imon (add "lirc_imon" to your /etc/modules file to start it at boot)

Now it has made a /dev/lcd0 file, except I wasn't able to write to it... so I had to chmod it (and I have to do this after every boot):

chmod 666 /dev/lcd0

And now you can output to the display! (But only up to 32 chars, otherwise it'll give you some error)

echo -n "Hello" > /dev/lcd0


I'm using LMCE 0710 beta 3. I know I need to fix a lot more (like that knob or that infrared thing or the chmod thing) but that's for later
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on February 04, 2008, 07:44:39 pm
Quote
How do you install lcd-proc? It isn't on my system now - tried apt-get install lcd-proc.... says there is no such package...

Run
Code: [Select]
apt-get install lcdprocIt'll install LCDproc for you. Sure if you have iMON VFD display you should install iMON IR driver (it's included into standard LIRC package).
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on February 05, 2008, 12:45:13 pm
True, true, the original compile failed on my box too, but that's a pretty old thread, meant for a previous ubuntu version. If you read the entire thread (which is a pain, I know) then you can find a solution... Errr, hold on, I'll try to give you my method:

Install lirc and the lirc-modules-kernel version-generic

After this you need to load the lirc_imon module:

modprobe lirc_imon (add "lirc_imon" to your /etc/modules file to start it at boot)

Now it has made a /dev/lcd0 file, except I wasn't able to write to it... so I had to chmod it (and I have to do this after every boot):

chmod 666 /dev/lcd0

And now you can output to the display! (But only up to 32 chars, otherwise it'll give you some error)

echo -n "Hello" > /dev/lcd0


I'm using LMCE 0710 beta 3. I know I need to fix a lot more (like that knob or that infrared thing or the chmod thing) but that's for later

I did:

sudo apt-get install lirc
 - it asked for confirmation to install and I hit Y
sudo apt-get install lirc-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
 - it ran, didn't ask me to confirm, but did seem to complete with no errors, and said that there was 1 newly installed package
sudo modprobe lirc_imon
no error, just completed

But I do not have a device at /etc/lcd0 or anything beginning with L or l other than loop0 and log....
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: gazlang on February 05, 2008, 02:40:32 pm
See this site:
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/LCDproc

I used this to get my vfd working.

Don't have to chmod after every boot, just:

sudo crontab -e

-and add the following line:

@reboot /usr/local/sbin/LCDd -c /home/mythtv/lcd/LCDd.conf

do this instead of the 'Starting LCD PROC from Boot' given on the link

Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on February 05, 2008, 09:06:23 pm
Ugh, rhis is all so very confusing, getting these to work on linux is one thing, getting them to work on lmce is something completely different!

Anyone having any thoughts about this?
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on February 05, 2008, 10:22:58 pm
Ugh, rhis is all so very confusing, getting these to work on linux is one thing, getting them to work on lmce is something completely different!

Anyone having any thoughts about this?

It's exactly the same thing to install LIRC and VFD under Linux and under LMCE. Note if you add "Infrared remote controls you will use" on the media director page and this remote is LIRC based then LIRC will install automatically and the file /etc/lircd/lircd.conf will be created with content from remote's property 'Configuration'. So, in that case you should just add proper remote.

In case of iMON you have to:
- create a new device template in category Peripherals --> Remote Control --> LIRC;
- add a new property - #59 Configuration for that template and copy there iMON LIRC.conf;
- add iMON remote to your MD;
- reload router.

If you don't see /dev/lirc0 this means:
- your IR receiver is disconnected (for example, it doesn't fit good in the USB port);
- you have some error in the lircd.conf (check /var/log/message or /var/log/syslog);
- kernel module for your IR receiver is not loaded (check sudo lsmod|grep <name_of_your_ir_module>. If you don't find it then try to load - sudo modprobe -v <name_of_your_ir_module>).

To verify that your remote works correctly you can use utility irw which displays everything you send from the remote.

In any case, please, see system logs and dmesg output of your core. It gives you the reason why your remote doesn't work. If everything works fine you can configure remote for MythTV or VDR.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on February 05, 2008, 11:31:20 pm
Michael

The Antec VFD we are talking about here does not have a remote functionality at all. Apparently it just uses the iMON VFD functionality only. Your instructions seem to require the full iMON LIRC remote functionality to work. Can you give any pointers on how to make this work for the Antec VFD without remote functionality?

EDIT: BTW, I have followed instructions from several sources now on the forums including this thread, all quite different. So I have no idea what state my VFD is in! However, I do note that the display has now changed from what it was fixed on for the last 4 weeks... It still doesn't display anything meaningful, but they do seem to be some recognisable unicode characters (mainly "n" with circumflexes and the like, type accents above them!)
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on February 05, 2008, 11:45:23 pm
Yours does not have the IR function? Huh, that's strange ... Is it the Antec Fusion V2?
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on February 06, 2008, 01:09:49 am
Correct - it isn't supposed to have IR function, it isn't in the specifications. All it says is that there is room to mount your own IR in the front panel if you want. However, according to another person on the forums (can't remember who) has already confirmed this by taking it to pieces - there is no room for one, and in fact apparently the firmware does not include the IR code anyway.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on February 06, 2008, 11:21:13 pm
Well, that is the Antec Fusion V1 then, the V2 does have an IR receiver (I swear :))

Getting it to work is something completely different, of course :P
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on February 06, 2008, 11:29:21 pm
OK, now I'm completely confused! I didn't realise the distinction was the V1/V2 thing.... I do have the V2 so I guess I must have the IR. Not that I really need to use it as I have a Fiire remote. But it sounds like I need to use a different process to install from what you are saying.

I wish I could go back to the beginning and undo all the changes I have made (no idea what they were now!) and find a definitive HowTo for my version. But even then, it seems like the display really isn't going to do anything interesting unless I write a whole load of event intercepts with code to drive it. A task for which I am supremely unqualified!
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on February 07, 2008, 08:43:21 am
colinjones, if your VFD doesn't have any relations with IR it should be enough just install lcdproc. If it doesn't support iMON VFD get the sources from here - http://venky.ws/projects/imon/#standalone (http://venky.ws/projects/imon/#standalone). But install lcdproc first because it'll add startup scripts into /etc/init.d. After you'll do it check dmesg command output. Additionally, you can specify in the LCDproc.conf option to send log messages into syslog. Be sure that startup script LCDd gets correct config file!
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on June 07, 2008, 01:12:48 am
Skerit/anyone with Antec Fusion V2...

Having another look at this... followed http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/LCDproc and I seem to have all the modules installed OK, my problem seems to be that the lcd0 device doesn't get created. dmesg indicates that the lirc_imon driver is loading but it doesn't say anything about finding the device, as it should. When I try lsusb the device doesn't appear on any of the usb buses...

Can someone try lsusb for me and tell me if you see it ok? I definitely plugged it in, and periodically it gets garbage characters on it (blank at the moment) so not sure if it is faulty or if there is something else I should do to try and kick start it....
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: ddamron on June 07, 2008, 02:39:29 am
If anyone wants to donate a VFD for testing, I'm very familiar with GSD/Ruby coding and I don't think it would take too much effort.
It needs either a serial or USB interface... and documentation...
Regards,
Dan
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: skerit on June 07, 2008, 04:15:28 am
I'm sorry I can't be of assistance right now, I don't have LMCE installed, just regular ubuntu with a heavily modified VDR for my DVB-S card :)
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on June 07, 2008, 10:30:15 pm
Dan - if nobody beats me to it, I am willing to donate mine. I have to ensure its actually working first - per my last post it doesn't seem to appear on my USB bus. But if so (maybe a loose connector?), when I pull my core to pieces next week to do some work, I'll see if I can disconnect the whole unit and send it to you. I believe it has a 4 pin-header connector...
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: Itsik on June 08, 2008, 06:58:50 pm
Ugh, rhis is all so very confusing, getting these to work on linux is one thing, getting them to work on lmce is something completely different!

Anyone having any thoughts about this?

It's exactly the same thing to install LIRC and VFD under Linux and under LMCE. Note if you add "Infrared remote controls you will use" on the media director page and this remote is LIRC based then LIRC will install automatically and the file /etc/lircd/lircd.conf will be created with content from remote's property 'Configuration'. So, in that case you should just add proper remote.

In case of iMON you have to:
- create a new device template in category Peripherals --> Remote Control --> LIRC;
- add a new property - #59 Configuration for that template and copy there iMON LIRC.conf;
- add iMON remote to your MD;
- reload router.

If you don't see /dev/lirc0 this means:
- your IR receiver is disconnected (for example, it doesn't fit good in the USB port);
- you have some error in the lircd.conf (check /var/log/message or /var/log/syslog);
- kernel module for your IR receiver is not loaded (check sudo lsmod|grep <name_of_your_ir_module>. If you don't find it then try to load - sudo modprobe -v <name_of_your_ir_module>).

To verify that your remote works correctly you can use utility irw which displays everything you send from the remote.

In any case, please, see system logs and dmesg output of your core. It gives you the reason why your remote doesn't work. If everything works fine you can configure remote for MythTV or VDR.

Sorry for hijacking this but I tried following the guide on your blog nite_man but lirc did not install and obviously nothing happened.
Am I missing something ?

Thnx
Itsik
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: tkmedia on June 09, 2008, 04:38:06 pm
I can tell you for sure that the v2 has ir. i have not set up the vfd but i have set it up to power on the MD.


Tim
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on June 27, 2008, 07:05:34 am
OK, the internal cable wasn't connected properly! Now that's fixed I can see the device in lsusb and I can see /dev/lcd0...

I followed the steps in the mythtv article above, but I'm still having problems. I was able to redirect echo to the device. But when I try to:

/usr/local/sbin/LCDd -c /home/linuxmce/lcd/LCDd.conf

I get....

Could not open driver module /home/linuxmce/lcdimon.so: /home/linuxmce/lcdimon.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Driver [imon] binding failed
Could not load driver imon
There is no output driver
Critical error while initializing, abort.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 18, 2009, 09:17:49 pm
Colin, do you have the VFD display working on your Fusion V2?  If so, which install did you use?

Thanks
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: Steve on April 18, 2009, 11:34:58 pm
If anybody is having trouble with the imon vfd, I just got mine working.

do an apt-get install lcdproc
goto /etc/LCDd.conf and change the driver which is set to curses to imon
then reboot
I have not tested the ir yet I dont have the imon pad.
but will keep people posted if need be.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on April 19, 2009, 06:55:15 am
Colin, do you have the VFD display working on your Fusion V2?  If so, which install did you use?

Thanks

Got it working briefly, but haven't reinstalled it again since as without something to drive it there isn't much point in having it! I believe some have got it to display data from some devices (not sure, maybe for DVD's?) but realistically we need someone to tackle a real DCE device to drive it properly. The actual daemon is pretty smart, and you can create multiple "screens" with priorities and so on and it will manage how to display them and when. It would be really nice if we had a DCE device that drew information from the system (probably by intercepting media events and so on) and used them to construct screens that displayed information .... all perfectly possible... in fact as it is a TCP control interface, you could even create a single central DCE plugin on the DCERouter that would connect to all the remote LCDProcs and drive them all...
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: tschak909 on April 19, 2009, 07:21:11 am
Already handled in the system, look at VFD_LCD and the LCDBase stuff. ;)

-Thom
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 26, 2009, 08:29:08 pm
Matrex, not finding the following:

apt-get install lcdproc

The VFW is working though, manually...

If I go to root/dev/ and edit the lcd0 file with Kate, the minute I save it, it shows up on the VFW.
Also if I reboot the machine, it works again like that, without me having to reload anything.
This beagn to work after lirc installed.
When I downloaded the Mythtv stuff and untared it, I could not do a make because it said nothing to make.
Have the tars changed?

I just don't have the lcdproc or the LCDd.conf stuff probably because I haven't successfully completed the above.
I also have the Fusion V2, which supposidly has the IR receiver built in.

Any suggestions?

Charles
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: Steve on April 26, 2009, 09:34:40 pm
You should not have to untar and build anything. lcdproc is in the repositories. I just confirmed with synaptic.
I think you are going about it the wrong way.
Are you trying to install install mythtv ver .22 on top of the one that was installed with linuxmce?
That will not work. will probably break mythtv plugin.
As far as upgrading mythtv I can't help you with that.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 26, 2009, 09:40:13 pm
No I'm simply at the Konsole of my diskless media director of which is in the Antec Fusion case.
This is what I'm doing:

root@moon77:/# apt-get install lcdproc

and the response:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package lcdproc
root@moon77:/#

I'm not that fluent at Linux yet.

Charles
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 26, 2009, 10:25:12 pm
Matrex, If I'm now following you, I don't have synaptic on this Media Director.  Going to add-programs, it is greyed out and not available to me.  This linuxmce 710, 2.6.22-14-generic installed with Adept instead and lcdproc is not found.

Charles
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: tschak909 on April 26, 2009, 11:21:48 pm
*wonders-why-nobody-is-actually-trying-to-code-a-proper-DCE-driver?*

*hmm*

-Thom
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: Steve on April 27, 2009, 12:18:23 am
It should show up with adept. Unless your repository list was changed somehow. I just mentioned synaptic cause that is what I use that I am acustomed to.

Thom,
       yeah somebody does need to start on codeing a proper DCE driver! But i'm not a developer.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 27, 2009, 12:36:03 am
Thom, I haven't done anything to the repository files or adept installer.  This a new clean install.  I checked both the adept on this media director and on the core add software and I can't find anything on lcdproc.  Can I obtain it another way to complete this?

Charles
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 27, 2009, 05:18:27 am
I humbly apologize for calling you the wrong name.  I won't use names again, please pardon the mistake.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on April 27, 2009, 08:28:12 am
*wonders-why-nobody-is-actually-trying-to-code-a-proper-DCE-driver?*

*hmm*

-Thom

There is a generic lmce-lcdproc (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=7512.0) interface which works fine with iMON VFD. I guess it should work with any generic VFD as well. It might be expanded instead of developing something from the scratch IMHO.

The Antec Fusion has iMON VFD display if I'm not wrong. It should work from the box using standard packages LIRC and LCDProc from Ubuntu repo. Just make sure that imon module is loaded because iMON IR and VFD use the same module. Then choose the proper driver (imon) in the /etc/LCDd.conf. That's it. You may switch on debug mode into syslog to see what's wrong if your VFD doesn't work. Then use lmcd-lcdproc to show LinuxMCE  info on the display.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: colinjones on April 27, 2009, 09:57:45 am
Thanks for reminding me niteman, problem is the links in that thread are now dead. I have PM'd drikc asking him to post new links for his device....
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: Lexje on April 27, 2009, 10:35:20 am
Don't worry, guys, LinuxMCE doesn't support VFD displays except a three models: Crystal Fontz USB/RS232, IRTrans - Dign VFD and Media Live LCD/Buttons. The rest can be just used by MythTV or VDR. IMHO it'd be great to have some generic VFD interface which will communicate with LCD server as a client. In that case it'd be doesn't matter what model of VFD you have.

Nite_Man,

I have a Dign case with the VFD/IR inside; I have even tried to get it going using M$ XP... I have not seen it even light up...
The IR reception part was working though....
I would feel much better if it would at least light up and indicate something...
Do you have any idea or pointer where to look?

Thanks a lot!

Erwin
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on April 27, 2009, 02:00:08 pm
Thanks for reminding me niteman, problem is the links in that thread are now dead. I have PM'd drikc asking him to post new links for his device....

I have both - i386 binaries (http://linuxmce.ru/download/30) and sources (http://linuxmce.ru/download/29) :)

Quote
I have a Dign case with the VFD/IR inside; I have even tried to get it going using M$ XP... I have not seen it even light up...
The IR reception part was working though....
I would feel much better if it would at least light up and indicate something...
Do you have any idea or pointer where to look?

Maybe it's broken somehow? If IR and VFD are put in one module then connection is ok if IR works. But check again the connection, power, wires and so on. Another possibility is driver. Did you install under XP specific driver for your VFD? Try to install lcdproc and lirc on your system, specify correct driver - imon, for example, in the LCDd.conf, switch on debug mode there and see the syslog. Also see dmesg output about your VFD device.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: Lexje on April 27, 2009, 03:58:32 pm

Quote
I have a Dign case with the VFD/IR inside; I have even tried to get it going using M$ XP... I have not seen it even light up...
The IR reception part was working though....
I would feel much better if it would at least light up and indicate something...
Do you have any idea or pointer where to look?

Maybe it's broken somehow? If IR and VFD are put in one module then connection is ok if IR works. But check again the connection, power, wires and so on. Another possibility is driver. Did you install under XP specific driver for your VFD? Try to install lcdproc and lirc on your system, specify correct driver - imon, for example, in the LCDd.conf, switch on debug mode there and see the syslog. Also see dmesg output about your VFD device.

Thanks for replying, I'll have to reinstall LMCE on this box to test. I remember I have done quite some testing on XP as I thought it would be a good idea to get it to work with XP before attempting Linux... :-)
I also do remember the Dign site is very obscure about drivers etc...

I'll keep you posted, but it may take some time..

Erwin
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 27, 2009, 08:52:43 pm
I need HELP.  I don't really need anyone to tell me again to just GET "apt-get install lcdproc"  It doesn't exist.  I read all of the wiki's and forum information as I was told to do.  Some use synaptic but I read it could damage my setup so it defaults to using Adept.  OK.  It isn't there...  If it's missing, could it get put back?  If I need to check or uncheck something or add a new source in the Adept setup, what is it?

I did an apt-get update.  It isn't there.  Here are my Adept repository sources and I haven't changed them:

Kubuntu Software
download from the internet
Canonical-supported Open source software (main) - checked
Community-maintained Open source software (universe) - checked
Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted) - checked
Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse) - checked
Source Code - not checked
Download from:  set to Main Server

Third-Party software
software sources
file:/usr/pluto/deb-cache/ ./ - checked
http://linuxmce.com/ubuntu/ ./ - checked
http://deb.linuxmce.com/ubuntu/ 20dev_ubuntu main - checked
http://deb.linuxmce.com/ubuntu/ replacements_ubuntu main - checked

Kubuntu Updates
important security updates - checked
recommended updates - checked
pre-release updates - not checked
unsupported updates - not checked

Automatic Updates
check for updates - checked
download all updates in the background - not checked
only notify about available updates - checked

This was the adept setup on a clean install. What's wrong?
Please, I need help. Thanks
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on April 27, 2009, 09:21:53 pm
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I need HELP.  I don't really need anyone to tell me again to just GET "apt-get install lcdproc"  It doesn't exist.

lcdproc is a standard Ubuntu package. The reason why you cannot install it is end of support of Kubuntu 7.10. That means all its packages are available via archive repos but not via "live" ones. You may google about it or ask people on the Ubuntu forum.
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 27, 2009, 09:38:22 pm
Thank you for your quick response, I really appreciate it.
Charles
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: nite_man on April 28, 2009, 04:20:31 pm
Thank you for your quick response, I really appreciate it.
Charles

Try to change original urls in your apt-get source list to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: rocketlynx on April 29, 2009, 07:21:27 am
Got it fixed! 
Thanks to all who helped me with my Antec Fusion V2 VFD installation.  For those using LinuxMCE 710, the command line, "apt-get Install lcdproc", is seriously outdated.  On my clean install of lmce 710, the source for this apt in the package manager, Adept, doesn't exist. 
After Googling for help on old ubuntu package lists, I found this on Credentiality Blog.

Topic:  fix broken ubuntu gutsy apt-get sources.list
url:  http://credentiality2.blogspot.com/2009/04/fix-broken-ubuntu-gutsy-apt-get.html

I added this link found on the above blog to Adept's third party software:
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse and then enabled it.
After Adept automatically updated it's source list I did not do an Adept fetch update because it can damage the installation.  Instead I went to the Konsole on the Media Director and did:  apt-get install lcdproc.  It installed without any errors.  I then edited  /etc/LCDd.conf and changed Driver=curses to Driver= imon.  After a reboot I had info on the VFD display when the Orbiter started.

I then started Mythtv and in setup checked the LCD option and began to get Mythtv info on the Display.  When it's not displaying Mythtv info the time is present.

That's it. 

Note:  Don't forget to go back in Adept and disable the old-releases link to insure that you don't possibly destroy your setup!
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: dlewis on April 29, 2009, 04:40:11 pm
Got it fixed! 
Thanks to all who helped me with my Antec Fusion V2 VFD installation.  For those using LinuxMCE 710, the command line, "apt-get Install lcdproc", is seriously outdated.  On my clean install of lmce 710, the source for this apt in the package manager, Adept, doesn't exist. 
After Googling for help on old ubuntu package lists, I found this on Credentiality Blog.

Topic:  fix broken ubuntu gutsy apt-get sources.list
url:  http://credentiality2.blogspot.com/2009/04/fix-broken-ubuntu-gutsy-apt-get.html

I added this link found on the above blog to Adept's third party software:
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse and then enabled it.
After Adept automatically updated it's source list I did not do an Adept fetch update because it can damage the installation.  Instead I went to the Konsole on the Media Director and did:  apt-get install lcdproc.  It installed without any errors.  I then edited  /etc/LCDd.conf and changed Driver=curses to Driver= imon.  After a reboot I had info on the VFD display when the Orbiter started.

I then started Mythtv and in setup checked the LCD option and began to get Mythtv info on the Display.  When it's not displaying Mythtv info the time is present.

That's it. 

Note:  Don't forget to go back in Adept and disable the old-releases link to insure that you don't possibly destroy your setup!

Please create a wiki site. Thanks!
Title: Re: VFD front panel display (Antec Fusion)
Post by: Steve on April 30, 2009, 08:29:03 pm
Sorry rocketlynx I should have reallized the source list was dead. At the time I posted they were still working.
Glad you found the fix and got yours working.