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General => Installation issues => Topic started by: dan g on January 17, 2008, 01:49:36 pm

Title: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: dan g on January 17, 2008, 01:49:36 pm
Cons and pros  ::)

DVD Installation
Pros:
1. reduced time per installation
2. has mixed 64b and 32b diskless images

Cons:
1. erases entire HDD

CD Installation
Pros:
1. doesn't erase entire HDD, let you install Kubuntu an the available free space

Cons:
1. take a huge amount of time
2. doesn't have mixed images for 32b or 64b (if the hybrid is 32b the MD is also 32b even if it has 64b architecture)
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: skerit on January 29, 2008, 08:56:37 am
Another DVD pro is that you can *completely* install a system, where when you use the CDs you need to have Kubuntu installed already. (Err, I hope I got that right this time :P)
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: booster on January 29, 2008, 09:35:13 am
So please remove: 'Boot from this CD to try Kubuntu without affecting your sytem' from the DVD distribution or this problem may happen again:
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=4051.0
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: schaferj on February 01, 2008, 07:15:43 pm
Also,
I don't believe the DVD install will allow you to select - "start with KDE and select MCE if needed" rather than the default "start with MCE & select KDE if needed".

However, you can change this with steps at http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Clean_Core

joseph
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: SilkBC on February 20, 2008, 07:14:50 am
Another con for DVD installation: you have no control over how the system is partitioned :-(

-SilkBC
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: OuZo on March 28, 2008, 10:39:40 am
i like the DVD install... i just wish that fglrx drivers were included...
i added them manually & adjusted the resolution...
LMCE keeps trying to generate screens...
i messed up my xorg.conf :( lucky i have backups...

i installed with a WinFast XP2000 PVR tunner, which was not detected... & a webcam, but im guessing i ether need to add drivers manually or they are not supported
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: torabian on March 28, 2008, 09:38:58 pm
I have just read this topic and think it is relevant to my problem. I installed using the cd's. I have an amd64 Core and an i386 diskless md. The MD disk install fails almost immediately, I'm now guessing it is due to the stuff detailed in this topic. Can someone tell me what I need for a 32bit diskless MD??

Thanks,


Andrew
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: Zaerc on March 29, 2008, 12:44:22 pm
I have just read this topic and think it is relevant to my problem. I installed using the cd's. I have an amd64 Core and an i386 diskless md. The MD disk install fails almost immediately, I'm now guessing it is due to the stuff detailed in this topic. Can someone tell me what I need for a 32bit diskless MD??

Thanks,


Andrew
See: http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3876.msg22754#msg22754 and possibly: http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=4261.msg24585#msg24585
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: kid on April 06, 2008, 10:49:59 pm
Hello
How to install Lmce for Msi Media Live.Stoping install " mount: unknow device nvidia_raid_member"!???? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: Zaerc on April 07, 2008, 02:20:45 pm
Hello
How to install Lmce for Msi Media Live.Stoping install " mount: unknow device nvidia_raid_member"!???? ??? ??? ??? ???
Please do everyone (including yourself) a huge favor and read: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: bemficag on April 23, 2008, 02:39:23 am
I'd like to know if the ultimate release (DVD Linuxmce 0710) is already done?
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: linuxdog on June 08, 2008, 01:10:01 pm
Hi,

I'm new to Linux MCE and I just want to double-check this...if I use the DVD image, my ENTIRE HDD will be erased, or can I just select a particular partition to wipe?

I currently use a PC with Ubuntu and Vista and was hoping to install Linux MCE (Kubuntu), as a third.
It dounds as if I'll need the CD install, but it would be great if someone could confirm that please.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: Zaerc on June 08, 2008, 02:01:43 pm
Hi,

I'm new to Linux MCE and I just want to double-check this...if I use the DVD image, my ENTIRE HDD will be erased, or can I just select a particular partition to wipe?

I currently use a PC with Ubuntu and Vista and was hoping to install Linux MCE (Kubuntu), as a third.
It dounds as if I'll need the CD install, but it would be great if someone could confirm that please.
Thanks in advance.

Yes, if you do not want to wipe the whole drive you should use the CD installer instead.
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: sdgenxr on September 06, 2008, 02:39:05 am
Ok, I was able to install LMCE from the DVD, but find that I would prefer to use only a portion of my HD.  My problem is that the CD does not seem to launch or install anything close to how the wiki states it should.  First, the CD does not self launch from Kubuntu, and I can not right click and install as suggested by the wiki, and lastly I can not get it to launch from the terminal. 

Any ideas?
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: colinjones on September 06, 2008, 03:04:20 am
When you open the CD what does it have inside? If it is just an .iso file then you haven't burned the CD properly. The .iso is a complete CD image, so you need to burn it as such, not simply write the .iso file onto a cd.
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: sdgenxr on September 06, 2008, 03:15:49 am
On the CD there is one file (mce-installer_2.0.1-1_i386.deb) and one folder (deb-cache)

I guess my biggest concern over DVD installation is redundancy of data with two hard drives.  If were to copy my music and videos to the HD with linux MCE, what directory would they go in?
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: eightbysixx on October 18, 2008, 12:40:08 am
Upfront apologies if this is a dumb question, but it has me scratching my head.

I am installing the 32 bit version from DVD.  I do not see or appear to be given the option of installing as a Core.  2 installs in a row have yielded Hybrid installs.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: tschak909 on October 18, 2008, 03:50:17 am
there is currently no clean core install. To have a core after install, simply stop the media director services, and uncheck it in the launch manager window.

We hope to put a clean core option back in soon.

-Thom
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: Pet-240 on November 06, 2008, 04:22:13 pm
I am in the same boat as sdgenxr, using the cd's on a fresh Kubuntu 710 install, the installer won't install and the cd will not auto start as described in the destructions, so after going to the extreme of extracting then burning another set of cd's allowing the os to update all its packages online,tryin again, redoing the whole install again of Kubuntu, trying again to no avail, then downloading the dvd version, single layer as none of the double layers would work from the mirrors, now it won't boot from the dvd, it is an old acer laptop with an ati card, but the kubuntu install works ok, would like to get this happening but the hammer is close to being exercised!!!!


Any thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: Murdock on December 03, 2008, 03:46:32 am
I prefer the interactivity of the installation process for the CD version (specifically the networking setup and the choice between dedicated core and hybrid core). The DVD makes many assumptions and I prefer a more customized environment.
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: tailspower2001 on February 18, 2009, 06:31:25 pm
The Linux MCE DVD is more like an OEM and/or full install Windows VISTA DVD.
I wound got DVD mostly; because it's less of pain in the ninck, even if just have it as dual-boot.
I ran some tests and if you need Windows file scaring like if your like me and own a X-BOX 360 you can use it with Linux MCE. I just can't find Web hosting support for VPNs and doing things like watching an missed show of Dirty Jobs over the web; that Windows MCE can with 3rd party apps.     
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: adam1305 on February 19, 2009, 09:41:02 pm
I have already installed using the CD method with AMD64 images (should have read this thread first).  Is there a way of adding the i386 diskless images to enable one of my MDs to boot?

Any help greatly appreciated, not sure I can face another install :)

Many thanks,

Adam

Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: infoteksec on August 17, 2009, 09:31:30 am
Hi. I'm 5-hours into a 6-hour download of the DVD version of LMCE but I'm wondering if I'm doing the right thing and should not have gone for the 2-CD version.

My biggest concern is that the DVD version seems quite stale - least ways, the dates on the download files are circa May 2008 and its now Aug 2009 so Kbuntu will have moved on a bit. Will the autoupdate process bring the base OS upto the latest version of am I going to be lumbered with an old OS? Has LMCE not moved on a bit since then?

I'm surprised the DVD version is so big - its three time the size of the 2CD one. I could understand twice the size - 32- and 64-bit platforms, but not thrice.

I'm just about to do first fit on a new house I'm building so I'm interested in ensuring I get all the wires in place before I put plasterboard up so a pointer to what I shoud be considering will be invaluable. I need to start simple so I was thinking of just a "technology demonstrator" to show the wife - you know, play a DVD, watch a terrestrial TV program and turn a couple of lights off and on. Whats the minimum I need?

Peter
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: tschak909 on August 17, 2009, 09:52:01 am
Hello, Welcome.

We do not recommend installing the 0710 release, anymore, as we have done considerable development since then, and because of major architectural changes, we have had to seal off that entire code base and start a new branch, so versions of 0710 will not be upgradeable to the new release (which is one of the reasons we made the clean break in the first place.)

You should follow the instructions on the 0810 alpha2 page, linked on the front of the wiki, to install the latest build.

Thanks, and again, welcome.
-Thom
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: donpaul on September 21, 2009, 11:38:06 pm
I need to start simple so I was thinking of just a "technology demonstrator" to show the wife - you know, play a DVD, watch a terrestrial TV program and turn a couple of lights off and on. Whats the minimum I need?

Peter

I notice nobody answered your question, so here you go.

You'll need a dual NIC PC with audio/video out (preferably with Nvidia chipset/graphics card), a z-wave usb dongle (from micasaverde), z-wave dimmer switches/modules, a tv tuner (go with hdhomerun), a properly configured network, and a tv.

Good luck.
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: AndiHoffi on September 23, 2009, 10:50:36 am
CD Installation
Cons:
1. take a huge amount of time
Just how much time does it take?
I don't need an exact number for my setup here, just a rough guideline how much time I need to plan:
1, 5, 10, 20 hours?

Thank you
Andreas
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: Marie.O on September 23, 2009, 08:47:30 pm
5 hours
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: ariznaf on November 14, 2009, 05:50:59 pm
I am trying to install linuxMCE in a Pentium IV 3.2 GHz machine with 1GB ram and i915G integrated graphics.
Motherboard GA8I915G-MF with a ICH6 southbridge.

My main interest is using it as the firewall/router and home archive, as a core system. It would be an always on box, with two 1TB harddrives in RAID.

If it can distribute TV signal (I have a tuner) and my multimedia content, it will be great, but if it is not able to do that, i will survive with that capabilities.

The problem is that the DVD of the 810 version does not an option to install just a core system. and I could not find a CD installation.

How should I install a core system with the new linuxMCE distribution (I have some previous experience in installing 710 version).
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: phenigma on November 14, 2009, 05:57:21 pm
How should I install a core system with the new linuxMCE distribution (I have some previous experience in installing 710 version).

There is currently no option to install a core only system.  You may be able to install a complete hybrid and then turn off the media-director portion of the system in pluto.conf.  I think that many people are simply installing a hybrid with UI1.

J.
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: Marie.O on November 16, 2009, 10:59:17 pm
As phenigma said: Install the DVD, and later on go into /etc/pluto.conf and set
Code: [Select]
AutostartMedia = 0That way, you have in essence a core only.
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: whatboy on November 18, 2009, 09:24:44 pm
It never asked for root's password... is there a default password??? how do you change it???

nevermind, user is in sudoers... so I just use that to change root's password... TY...
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: ariznaf on November 24, 2009, 09:46:21 am
OK, thank you.
So I should install an hibrid.

I am more interested in its router/firewall and nas characteristics than in distributing multimedia contents, as the system where i am going to install it is not very capable (graphics are old intel inboard).

Regards
Title: Re: DVD vs CD Installation
Post by: praetorian_tmotc on January 03, 2010, 07:22:48 am
Another con for DVD installation: you have no control over how the system is partitioned :-(

-SilkBC

Coming for a "hardcore" server background in IT (and therefore being totally paranoid about data loss etc!), I totally agree with this in particular. The main reason I went with the CD version was so that I can software R1 (mirror) my partitions in kubuntu before installation of the core.