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Title: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: hari on December 22, 2007, 08:07:54 pm
Hi all,

Daniel provided a beta2 image yesterday. Installation went fine for me.

http://vt100.at/kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso.torrent

Don't bother downloading older versions (beta1 or amd64), they have some issues and probably won't work for you.

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cirion on December 22, 2007, 09:46:21 pm
The image is 5.12GB and Brasero tells me it does not fit on a DVDr.

Any clues on how to burn this image?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: hari on December 22, 2007, 09:47:57 pm
you have to use a dual layer capable burner and medium.

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cirion on December 22, 2007, 09:57:54 pm
Expensive test then... Burns fine now  8)
Looking forward to testing this one...

Any information on what to expect?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 22, 2007, 10:20:10 pm
you have to use a dual layer capable burner and medium.

best regards,
Hari

Hmmm... thats the full upgrade iso. There is also a single layer 3.8G iso which might be a better bet as the Beta will not be upgradeable... so when the next beta comes along you'll have to blat your drive again... and the same goes for the release.

I would expect the real Beta will be the 3.8g version...
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: hari on December 22, 2007, 10:27:03 pm
I would expect the real Beta will be the 3.8g version...
thats what i got from daniel...

btw, look at your post count ;)
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 22, 2007, 10:35:14 pm
I would expect the real Beta will be the 3.8g version...
thats what i got from daniel...

btw, look at your post count ;)

Unfortunate timing on the post count!

Well my last discussion with Chris about this was that they would do the release Beta today and it would be a 3.8g. I can see todays build on the server and its a 3.8g build... but I have not been able to reach anyone yet.

There is really no functional difference between the 5gig+ builds and the 3.8gig. The bigger version will upgrade a 0704 install... but unless you are happy to sacrifice your 0704 install I would choose a clean drive for testing.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cirion on December 22, 2007, 11:53:35 pm
I'm just done upgrading my 0704 install to 0710 beta...

Most things looks fine... My NAS is not up and running yet, but no errors and full UI2 is up as it was...
A few episodes have begun to tick in so I think I just have to wait for it to read my 3GB of stuff.

Since all my stuff is on the NAS i dont mind wiping my LMCE install if I have to.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: colinjones on December 23, 2007, 02:19:52 am
I have installed it in VM, 25GB partition, dual CPU (physicals are Intel) with 1GB RAM, single NIC.

All seemed to be OK at first once it had copied all the files and untar'd.

Issue 1 - I got this with previous versions as well - in the AV wizard, although I choose 1080p (on a PC monitor), and this seems to work in the correct 16:9 aspect ratio, in the summary page at the end of the wizard it says 4:3?!

Issue 2 - the Launch Manager started successfully, and it goes through that initial process of "downloading" a whole load of things. After downloading several items, it got to GNU Standard C++ Library v5... and the little spinning mouse cursor froze, and the process seems to have stopped. Been like that for about 15 mins so far. I can move the mouse and can drag the window around, but nothing else seems to be happening. Doesn't appear to be any disk activity either. I am going to give it a little longer than try rebooting.

Col
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: colinjones on December 23, 2007, 02:40:53 am
OK, never came back, so I rebooted - this time it seems to have gone through all the downloading bit - I counted over 100 modules downloaded, but I can't say for sure whether the C++ lib was one of them.

Now it has run right through the first stage of rendering orbiter screens, and upto screen 70 of the second stage and done it again. CPU has dropped to nothing, the spinning cursor has stopped again, and the progress bar is stuck on 25% (screen 70).

Presumably this is a completely different task from the previous point it stopped - it could be something to do with running in a virtual environment, but others seem to have this without any difficulty...

5 more mins and I'll reboot again...
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: colinjones on December 23, 2007, 03:42:50 am
This time it got through the regen process OK - but I feel that this is more because it had less to do each time having already completed the previous parts of the set up - certainly it is not associated with a particular part in the setup as it happens later each time.

Seem to be getting further now, but still getting the occasional hangs...
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: fibres on December 23, 2007, 04:46:56 am
Hi all

Does anyone have a link to download the smaller 3.8gb version of the new beta.

This would be a lot better for myself.

Regards
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on December 23, 2007, 05:10:31 am
Please test and report in Mantis any relevant details on any existing issues (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/view_all_bug_page.php). Or if, after searching those existing issues, you know you have identified a new issue, please report a new issue (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/login_select_proj_page.php?ref=bug_report_page.php).
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deffcon on December 23, 2007, 11:43:32 am
Hi,


Maybe a stupid question, but i don't own a dual layer burner yet so i can't get it to work with dual layer capabilities, but i can mount it to /dev/dvd.

My question is how can i upgrade????

Dave
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 23, 2007, 12:00:16 pm
Please test and report in Mantis any relevant details on any existing issues (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/view_all_bug_page.php). Or if, after searching those existing issues, you know you have identified a new issue, please report a new issue (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/login_select_proj_page.php?ref=bug_report_page.php).

Can anyone who has installed the iso downloaded from the current torrent confirm if they have the 'Climate' menu and also whether they see some VDR test scripts in the 'Computing Applications' screen?

Thanks Andrew
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deffcon on December 23, 2007, 12:33:58 pm
Hi,

Andrew i want to test but see my previous post, can i upgrade or install linuxmce 7.10 beta2 on another way than burning this iso to a dual layer dvd i don't own.???


Dave
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: niz23 on December 23, 2007, 12:35:10 pm
Will do as soon as the iso is downloaded. (in 2-3h I guess)
My oldest kid shut down our office computer last night. Arghh!
Had to resume download this morning.

/niz23
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 23, 2007, 12:41:37 pm
Hi,


Maybe a stupid question, but i don't own a dual layer burner yet so i can't get it to work with dual layer capabilities, but i can mount it to /dev/dvd.

My question is how can i upgrade????

Dave

Hmmm... I don't think there is anyway you can mount a DVD iso and boot from it which is what you'd need to do. Sorry :-(

Hopefully the 3.8g single layer sized iso will be available as a torrent soon.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: fibres on December 23, 2007, 01:37:02 pm
Hi

Can anyone probably andrew confirm if the VDR integratiopn made it into 7010 and how well this is working?
This is the one feature I am really longing for.

Regards
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 23, 2007, 02:07:53 pm
Hi

Can anyone probably andrew confirm if the VDR integratiopn made it into 7010 and how well this is working?
This is the one feature I am really longing for.

Regards

Well the answer to that question is no... we decided it was more important to get the 0710 Beta out so we did not include vdr on the iso. However you will see that when you run the setup wizard now you choose whether you want to run Myth or VDR and also in Web Admin -> Advanced -> Configuration -> VDR you will see that the page is ready for VDR. We plan to release a temporary add on VDR package that you will be able to download from www.linuxmce.com (http://www.linuxmce.com) in next day or so hopefully. This package will then be rolled into a later beta or the release.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: niz23 on December 23, 2007, 07:51:49 pm
totallymaxed.

Just installed beta2 and I can confirm that Windows MCE Remote now work.

However there is no "climate" menu and there is no VDR test scripts under computing.
Is there a way that I can add the vdr test scripts manually or execute them from a command shell?

When do you think the vdr package will be available?
I really want to try vdr since I cannot get myth to be stable. Need to do some more testing with beta2?

I was unable to install blue-ray hd-dvd ripping tools.
The installation complained about not being able to download the packages.

My first impression with mythtv is that my livetv picture quality is a lot better than previous releases.
Seem that the output is deinterlaced correctly now.
There is no video tearing that I can see even when I use UI2 transparent.
I still have one thing I wonder about. Myth ant xorg take up 30+20% cpu on my athlon x2 4400+.
Mythbuntu 7.10 use only 7% percent to display the same livetv channels.
I belive there is some misconfiguration that make my system not using hw mpeg decoding.
How can I verify that my graphics card is used to decode mpeg data?

UI2 feel slow when using the menus.

Overall this beta seem stable so far.

/niz23
My hw:
ASUS M2VM-DH (with built-in nvidia graphics, 6050)
Nova-t 500
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 23, 2007, 08:19:47 pm
totallymaxed.

Just installed beta2 and I can confirm that Windows MCE Remote now work.

However there is no "climate" menu and there is no VDR test scripts under computing.
Is there a way that I can add the vdr test scripts manually or execute them from a command shell?

When do you think the vdr package will be available?
I really want to try vdr since I cannot get myth to be stable. Need to do some more testing with beta2?

I was unable to install blue-ray hd-dvd ripping tools.
The installation complained about not being able to download the packages.

My first impression with mythtv is that my livetv picture quality is a lot better than previous releases.
Seem that the output is deinterlaced correctly now.
There is no video tearing that I can see even when I use UI2 transparent.
I still have one thing I wonder about. Myth ant xorg take up 30+20% cpu on my athlon x2 4400+.
Mythbuntu 7.10 use only 7% percent to display the same livetv channels.
I belive there is some misconfiguration that make my system not using hw mpeg decoding.
How can I verify that my graphics card is used to decode mpeg data?

UI2 feel slow when using the menus.

Overall this beta seem stable so far.

/niz23
My hw:
ASUS M2VM-DH (with built-in nvidia graphics, 6050)
Nova-t 500


Hmmm... ok well there should be a 'Climate' menu... the vdr scripts actually should not be there as they are part od a test suite for debugging. So the current 'Beta' is shall we say a little more 'beta' than intended!

There will be an add-on script available shortly that will add vdr to the neta 0710 install. I typically see less than 3-4% cpu usage when watching a live TV picture inside VDR at the Core by the way.

Andrew
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Zaerc on December 23, 2007, 08:20:03 pm
...
My hw:
ASUS M2VM-DH (with built-in nvidia graphics, 6050)
...

Please add your hardware (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Adding_your_own_hardware) to the wiki.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: fibres on December 24, 2007, 01:06:40 am
Thanks andrew for the quick reply.

I will eagerly await the release of that script and will be installing the new beta when I get back from my holiday and before I have to get stuck back into work.

Keep up the good work,

Regards
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: nswint on December 24, 2007, 05:35:40 am
Hey you guys.. does the USB-UIRT work with the Beta 2?  The 2.6.22 Kernel broke it for me.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: fromport on December 25, 2007, 12:10:35 pm
Probably like many others, i'm eager to test the new beta. But never having needed DL dvd's i cant burn the 5.8Gb image. Has anyone modified the image to make it fit on 4.7Gb ? Has anyone done a pxe/NFS boot trick.
Looking forward for any nice solutions.

Danny "havenosociallife"
PS: M. Xmas
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Misogynist on December 25, 2007, 11:22:52 pm
Hello everyone.
I visited the page every day for the last month or so, desperately waiting for the release of 0710. Now I can't install it, because I too don't have the right dvd burner for it.
What I have tho, is a 12 GB big USB stick, and my server's bios supports booting from usb harddrives.

I don't have a floppy drive, and I don't really understand how I can make the thing bootable.
Does anyone have a clue how I can "burn the iso" to the usb stick ? I googled a lot, and I found some instructions, but I don't really get it.
The missing floppy drive is a big problem in that context...

Maybe someone knows a way - might be interesting for others too.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deffcon on December 25, 2007, 11:32:20 pm
Hi,

This is what i found to use the iso on an external usb hdd or stick, maybe you can give it a try, and send me you're results.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml

Dave
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Misogynist on December 26, 2007, 04:47:56 am
I invested a few hours of trying, but sadly didnt get it to run ..
I followed all the instructions on the page you gave me (thanks for that tho), but the server doesnt really care about the usbstick when booting. I told him to boot it, but he doesnt ..
I'm trying a few other things now..

So right now sadly no success.

Any news on the 3.9 GB Version ?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: josecc on December 26, 2007, 06:44:58 am
Hi!

Mirror 0710 beta 2:

http://proyectos.pixelamigo.com/software/Ubuntu/linuxMCE/beta/

download 3 parts and join:

  cat kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso_part* > kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso

Bytes!
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: fromport on December 26, 2007, 12:06:45 pm
Does anyone have a clue how I can "burn the iso" to the usb stick ? I googled a lot, and I found some instructions, but I don't really get it.
The missing floppy drive is a big problem in that context...
Maybe someone knows a way - might be interesting for others too.

I copied it to an 8GB usb stick.
I  followed  tese links:
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3089474.new
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476302

My computer now boots but ends up in a busybox
Will try to find out and will report after success.
Here is my syslinux.cfg btw:
--------------------------------------
DEFAULT custom
GFXBOOT bootlogo
GFXBOOT-ACCESS-OPTIONS v1 v2 m1
APPEND  file=preseed/kubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=initrd.gz --
LABEL custom
  menu label ^Install LinuxMCE 0710 for I386
  kernel vmlinuz
  append  file=preseed/kubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=initrd.gz --
LABEL memtest
  menu label ^Memory test
  kernel /install/mt86plus
  append -
LABEL hd
  menu label ^Boot from first hard disk
  localboot 0x80
  append -
DISPLAY syslinux.txt
TIMEOUT 300
PROMPT 1
F1 f1.txt
F2 f2.txt
F3 f3.txt
F4 f4.txt
F5 f5.txt
F6 f6.txt
F7 f7.txt
F8 f8.txt
F9 f9.txt
F0 f10.txt
------------
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: nite_man on December 26, 2007, 04:06:59 pm
The Orbiter for LinuxMCE 0710 is available for OS2008 in tar archive:
- download it to the device;
- open xterm;
- untar the archive;
- go to created directory;
-
Code: [Select]
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:./lib- run the Orbiter:
Code: [Select]
./Orbiter -r <core IP> -d <Orbiter ID>
Let me know how it works.

The packages for OS2006/OS2007/OS2008 will be ready at the end of this week.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: l21864 on December 26, 2007, 04:11:58 pm
I have two question as follows.
(1) Can we install LinuxMCE from hard-disk iso image?
(2) Does the linuxMCE support Chinese language?

Thanks for reply.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on December 26, 2007, 09:12:16 pm
Please test and report in Mantis any relevant details on any existing issues (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/view_all_bug_page.php). Or if, after searching those existing issues, you know you have identified a new issue, please report a new issue (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/login_select_proj_page.php?ref=bug_report_page.php).

Feedback in this thread is useful for discussion in this thread, but not as useful to the actual developers. Please also use Mantis.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cirion on December 27, 2007, 01:36:05 pm
We plan to release a temporary add on VDR package that you will be able to download from www.linuxmce.com (http://www.linuxmce.com) in next day or so hopefully. This package will then be rolled into a later beta or the release.

Any news on the VDR package? I'm willing to betatest...
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 27, 2007, 04:21:14 pm
We plan to release a temporary add on VDR package that you will be able to download from www.linuxmce.com (http://www.linuxmce.com) in next day or so hopefully. This package will then be rolled into a later beta or the release.

Any news on the VDR package? I'm willing to betatest...

We're testing a candidate now of the lmcevdr_7.10.1-1_i386.deb which is just finished building. Once we are happy with it I'll post here to let everyone know how to get it.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: gazlang on December 28, 2007, 09:14:54 pm
Is this dvd (lmce-0710 beta2) similar to the 0704 dvd in terms of the '3 click setup'?
I have a fair few media files on my partitioned hard drive that I want to preserve. Will the dvd installer give me an option to install on a specific partition or will it auto format my entire hard drive?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: hari on December 28, 2007, 09:21:02 pm
Is this dvd (lmce-0710 beta2) similar to the 0704 dvd in terms of the '3 click setup'?
I have a fair few media files on my partitioned hard drive that I want to preserve. Will the dvd installer give me an option to install on a specific partition or will it auto format my entire hard drive?
it eats the whole drive ;)
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: sulin on December 28, 2007, 11:40:41 pm
Hi,

I have managed to install the 0710 Beta-2  successfully.  The install went quite smoothly after solving a problem
with my SATA drive on a ASUS M2N-LR motherboard. (by switching to an IDE drive)
My question (after much forum perusing) what are the default username & password for
Pluto admin. I have tried 'linuxmce', 'linuxmce' with no luck.

Thus far, I have found this BETA to be easier to install then the 0704 release !


Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on December 29, 2007, 01:23:48 am
Can anyone who has installed the iso downloaded from the current torrent confirm if they have the 'Climate' menu and also whether they see some VDR test scripts in the 'Computing Applications' screen?

Thanks Andrew

I have a Climate menu. I don't think there is anything in it (though I'm not sure. I'll post another reply after I check again). I don't recall seeing any VDR test scripts, but at some time during the installation, I had a choice between Myth and VDR and I chose Myth. Should I have chosen VDR?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cirion on December 29, 2007, 02:42:59 am
My question (after much forum perusing) what are the default username & password for
Pluto admin. I have tried 'linuxmce', 'linuxmce' with no luck.

During the Setup Wizard you entered your name...
That is both user name and password for the admin site.

You can change your password after logging in.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: dafrenchman on December 29, 2007, 03:07:45 am
Allo

What should the MD5 Checksum be on this file?

I get b264fd72821148f4dfcd78cb932d5598 is that correct?

Thanks.

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: DrErling on December 29, 2007, 03:19:29 am
Seems I have to empty one of my hard-drives asap to be ready for the final 0710!

Just hoping that it will work flawlessly with my HD2600pro card (and maybe with my ESI Juli@ soundcard as well?)

Anyways, looking forward for it!
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 29, 2007, 10:24:18 am
Can anyone who has installed the iso downloaded from the current torrent confirm if they have the 'Climate' menu and also whether they see some VDR test scripts in the 'Computing Applications' screen?

Thanks Andrew

I have a Climate menu. I don't think there is anything in it (though I'm not sure. I'll post another reply after I check again). I don't recall seeing any VDR test scripts, but at some time during the installation, I had a choice between Myth and VDR and I chose Myth. Should I have chosen VDR?

You should choose vdr if you plan to use it as your chosen PVR application ;-)
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deffcon on December 29, 2007, 11:11:37 am
Hi,

I can tell you guys, that i managed to install the beta2 ( 0710 ) form an external harddrive by following some tutorials ( iso from usb hdd ) ( I will post this later on, because its a bit tricky to do ), already i can confirm that there is no climate menu in my ui2, my buttons on my Fire-Chief remote arent't working in mythtv like they did in the 0704 version, i can confirm that the screensaver with my own pictures now is working very well, not instantly when i selected from the admin website my pictures from Media, Screensaver, then select some pictures of you're own and i thought voila, but NOT, i had to reboot and i had the pictures i selected ( I will report all my findings on Mantis btw )

I was suprised to see via phpmyadmin, which i had to install manually still, that the mythconverg database of Mythtv has 74 tables in it now and not 46 like in the 0704 version, so what si the difference?

Iso video files still aren't played by linuxMCE, i see them in my ui2 as afilename, but it doesn't play them when i select one, it comes with a black screen and then comes back to the ui2, even when i say in the Admin site that it is a linuMCE video file, bu no luck.

One other problem right now is that in mythtv my sound via spdiff coaxial is going on off on off on off, this wasn't in the 0704 version, a bit annoying !

In the advanced,power menu when i choose halt m/d the machine reboots instead off powering off, this is different then in the 0704 version

And i can report that my dutch language files i made in the 0704 version work great when i imported them in phpmyadmin, and then i regenerated my onscreen orbiter and it works great.

If someone wants to know something about my findings feel free to ask, and for the developers keep up the good work.

Dave
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 29, 2007, 12:42:15 pm
Hi,

I can tell you guys, that i managed to install the beta2 ( 0710 ) form an external harddrive by following some tutorials ( iso from usb hdd ) ( I will post this later on, because its a bit tricky to do ), already i can confirm that there is no climate menu in my ui2, my buttons on my Fire-Chief remote arent't working in mythtv like they did in the 0704 version, i can confirm that the screensaver with my own pictures now is working very well, not instantly when i selected from the admin website my pictures from Media, Screensaver, then select some pictures of you're own and i thought voila, but NOT, i had to reboot and i had the pictures i selected ( I will report all my findings on Mantis btw )

I was suprised to see via phpmyadmin, which i had to install manually still, that the mythconverg database of Mythtv has 74 tables in it now and not 46 like in the 0704 version, so what si the difference?

Iso video files still aren't played by linuxMCE, i see them in my ui2 as afilename, but it doesn't play them when i select one, it comes with a black screen and then comes back to the ui2, even when i say in the Admin site that it is a linuMCE video file, bu no luck.

One other problem right now is that in mythtv my sound via spdiff coaxial is going on off on off on off, this wasn't in the 0704 version, a bit annoying !

In the advanced,power menu when i choose halt m/d the machine reboots instead off powering off, this is different then in the 0704 version

And i can report that my dutch language files i made in the 0704 version work great when i imported them in phpmyadmin, and then i regenerated my onscreen orbiter and it works great.

If someone wants to know something about my findings feel free to ask, and for the developers keep up the good work.

Dave

Hi Dave... thanks for the feedback here re 0710 beta. It would be useful if you could add some Mantis's re each of the issues you've spotted above in your previous message. Thanks.

The large number of tables you see in the Myth DB is I am pretty sure to a glitch when we merged some of the new vdr related tables back in... I think we got the Myth tables twice. Anyway we are aware of that one and work to fix that is underway. The Dutch language files will be added in I understand but probably as an update after release.

Andrew
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deffcon on December 29, 2007, 01:34:54 pm
Hi Andrew,

I reported all the issues on mantis. Can you tell the guys to hold the dutch language file for release, i have to make a few adjustments, i will reported the final translation on mantis alright. If i can do more just tell me, and what is the main main difference between vdr as tv application and mythtv, and maybe its better for mythtv to make an skin that corrosp[onds with the colors of linuxMCE --> skin --> UI2 and just show the tv applictation.


Dave
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: toby9999 on December 29, 2007, 05:17:04 pm
Hi,

I can tell you guys, that i managed to install the beta2 ( 0710 ) form an external harddrive by following some tutorials ( iso from usb hdd ) ( I will post this later on, because its a bit tricky to do ), already i can confirm that there is no climate menu in my ui2, my buttons on my Fire-Chief remote arent't working in mythtv like they did in the 0704 version, i can confirm that the screensaver with my own pictures now is working very well, not instantly when i selected from the admin website my pictures from Media, Screensaver, then select some pictures of you're own and i thought voila, but NOT, i had to reboot and i had the pictures i selected ( I will report all my findings on Mantis btw )

I was suprised to see via phpmyadmin, which i had to install manually still, that the mythconverg database of Mythtv has 74 tables in it now and not 46 like in the 0704 version, so what si the difference?

Iso video files still aren't played by linuxMCE, i see them in my ui2 as afilename, but it doesn't play them when i select one, it comes with a black screen and then comes back to the ui2, even when i say in the Admin site that it is a linuMCE video file, bu no luck.

One other problem right now is that in mythtv my sound via spdiff coaxial is going on off on off on off, this wasn't in the 0704 version, a bit annoying !

In the advanced,power menu when i choose halt m/d the machine reboots instead off powering off, this is different then in the 0704 version

And i can report that my dutch language files i made in the 0704 version work great when i imported them in phpmyadmin, and then i regenerated my onscreen orbiter and it works great.

If someone wants to know something about my findings feel free to ask, and for the developers keep up the good work.

Dave

Hi Dave

I'm curious how you formatted your usb hdd ... fat/fat32 are too small to hold the 5.1GB image ... it'd be great if you could provide brief instructions on how to do this.  Thanks mate.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 29, 2007, 05:57:12 pm
Hi Andrew,

I reported all the issues on mantis. Can you tell the guys to hold the dutch language file for release, i have to make a few adjustments, i will reported the final translation on mantis alright. If i can do more just tell me, and what is the main main difference between vdr as tv application and mythtv, and maybe its better for mythtv to make an skin that corrosp[onds with the colors of linuxMCE --> skin --> UI2 and just show the tv applictation.


Dave

Thats great Dave thanks for adding the Mantis's.

On the differences between vdr and MythTV as the TV application... I think the main obvious difference is that the vdr integration is 100%... we have removed any need to use the normal vdr osd/epg. The vdr integration inside 0710 uses UI2 completely for all functions. The 2nd less obvious difference is that vdr is a DVB application and so is much better suited to any user who wants to use DVB (its not currently possible to use it in N. America). One of main benefits of this tight integration with DVB is that with a single tuner DVB card you can simultaneously watch/record all of the 'channels' delivered on the MUX you have tuned to. This means you could view and record for example upto 12 TV/Radio channels simultaneously using a single Tuner DVB card. My home system has a dual tuner T500 and an Avermedia 771 card which gives me three DVB tuners... nost evening my home system is recording 5-7 channels concurrently at some point in the evening and delivering live TV on two others. Myth as far as i know cannot do this without having a receiver dedicated to each 'channel'.

There are probably many other detailed feature differences between vdr and Myth but those are the key ones know of.

Hope that helps you.

Andrew
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tschak909 on December 29, 2007, 06:07:51 pm
wait, isn't there a vdr plugin for a pvrusb2/PVR-150??

-Thom
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: sulin on December 29, 2007, 07:00:27 pm
Quote from: sulin on December 28, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
My question (after much forum perusing) what are the default username & password for
Pluto admin. I have tried 'linuxmce', 'linuxmce' with no luck.

During the Setup Wizard you entered your name...
That is both user name and password for the admin site.

You can change your password after logging in.



Thank You
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Zaerc on December 29, 2007, 07:36:31 pm
Quote from: sulin on December 28, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
My question (after much forum perusing) what are the default username & password for
Pluto admin. I have tried 'linuxmce', 'linuxmce' with no luck.

During the Setup Wizard you entered your name...
That is both user name and password for the admin site.

You can change your password after logging in.



Thank You

See also: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Logging_In
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cobradevil on December 29, 2007, 09:36:38 pm
Ok,

My first experience with linuxmce 0710 beta 2.

Hardware: core
core2duo 6300
1GB mem
nvidia 6200 GT
asus p5b deluxe
haupauge mce150
ordered: almost dvb-t twinhan with ci for digitenne (netherlands)

Hardware: MD
asus terminator 2p
512 MB mem
nvidia 7600GS AGP
wiimote :)

TV: Samsung le37m87bd

Installation core went fine.

Setting up a diskless media directory did not work as expected and there were legions of trouble getting my tv (samsung 1080p) recognized and set up.

But after editing the xorg.conf manually with the settings i saved from the last time it went ok. (3-4 hours)

Now the md is running, i wanted to get accelerated video playback for mpeg2.

So i downloaded a mpeg2 file and tried playing without xvmc that worked as expected.
Now i tried it with xxmc but that only froze my xine player.

So back to the command line and take a look at what happens.
xine -V xxmc -A alsa file.mpg2

it just froze no output nothing.

Wel after two days (bios,agp,irq,noapic,noacpi,noht) it seemed that the nvidia drivers were my trouble.
So i downgraded to 100.14.19 and then it worked the way i wanted.

So far so good i guess.

Not something for an average user.

Thanx for this release


With kind regards,

William van de Velde
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 30, 2007, 12:10:58 am
wait, isn't there a vdr plugin for a pvrusb2/PVR-150??

-Thom


Thom there are various ways to get analog TV into vdr... but my point was that you cannot use the DVB features in N. America. Using analog cards means you have to use one card/tuner per channel.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tobias on December 30, 2007, 12:14:12 am
Hello,

i have also installed 0710 beta2 but have several problems with MythTV (see my
posting in installation troubles section in the forum).

I am eagerly waiting for a vdr upgrade package and am also willing to help get it
running (programming, testing,..). Please send me the dl-links for the package.

Regards
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 30, 2007, 12:17:10 am
Hello,

i have also installed 0710 beta2 but have several problems with MythTV (see my
posting in installation troubles section in the forum).

I am eagerly waiting for a vdr upgrade package and am also willing to help get it
running (programming, testing,..). Please send me the dl-links for the package.

Regards

When lmcevdr is ready for testing with 0710 beta then that news will be posted here for sure ;-)
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: stiev3 on December 30, 2007, 10:56:20 am
totallymaxed.

Just installed beta2 and I can confirm that Windows MCE Remote now work.

How did you get the your mce remote working?  I'm having a hard time getting mine going.  Have an mce_usb2 receiver with the xp media center RC-6 remote.  Upon plugging the reciever into the MD, I get the "detected" message.  It then attempts to configure/install the device, but fails with a message along the lines of "Failed to get dce lirc wrapper" "Install failed".  Log in the manager says: "Not starting device 68 mce_usb2 - binary is not found, probably it is in the middle of installing..." (not sure which log to look at to get the full message).

How would I go about setting it up in the beta?  I've taken a long series of steps across various tutorials and forum posts here and there, and have failed for the most part.   Tried all variations of totallymaxed's steps in: http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3539.0 and I end up with the same result.  I've gotten irw registering button presses etc... just can't seem to get LMCE to configure it properly.
 
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 30, 2007, 11:45:05 am
totallymaxed.

Just installed beta2 and I can confirm that Windows MCE Remote now work.

How did you get the your mce remote working?  I'm having a hard time getting mine going.  Have an mce_usb2 receiver with the xp media center RC-6 remote.  Upon plugging the reciever into the MD, I get the "detected" message.  It then attempts to configure/install the device, but fails with a message along the lines of "Failed to get dce lirc wrapper" "Install failed".  Log in the manager says: "Not starting device 68 mce_usb2 - binary is not found, probably it is in the middle of installing..." (not sure which log to look at to get the full message).

How would I go about setting it up in the beta?  I've taken a long series of steps across various tutorials and forum posts here and there, and have failed for the most part.   Tried all variations of totallymaxed's steps in: http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3539.0 and I end up with the same result.  I've gotten irw registering button presses etc... just can't seem to get LMCE to configure it properly.
 

Make sure you have your Windows MCE remote and mce_usb2 added to your MD in Web Admin. Now go to your core then get to the KDE desktop and open a Konsole session from Kmenu -> System -> Konsole

Then type;

sudo su - <return> (*this means you dont need to type sudu in front of further commands*)
(enter your password at the prompt)

Now make sure your MD is powered up and booted and then type;

ssh moonxx <return> **where xx is the ID from Web Admin for the MD** (*or ssh <ip address of MD>*)

Now your logged into your MD and you can type;

depmod <return>

Now either just do a reload router or if that does not get the remote working then reboot the MD and it will be!

Happy New Year!

Andrew
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: niz23 on December 30, 2007, 03:28:56 pm
Sorry stief3.
Didn´t see the question directed to me earlier.

I did nothing special.
It worked out of the box.

My install steps:
1. Connect all equipment I needed included MCE remote.
2. Fresh install of beta2.
3. Configure.

The problem you mention was the samn as I had on beta1.

/niz23
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: stiev3 on December 30, 2007, 07:39:45 pm
Now either just do a reload router or if that does not get the remote working then reboot the MD and it will be!

Sorry, tried to imply that I had gotten to that through the forum search so you didn't have to repost.  Tried and failed following those steps more than a few times.  This doesn't bode well for my system... Where does one go after the tried and true method fails?  Anyway, I see that niz23 says he had this issue with beta1.  If I remember correctly, the short period that beta-1 was available, it was only in 64 bit form.  Could the fact that my MD configured under Architecture: amd64 be a problem?  How would I force it to go 32 bit instead?

Screenshot of web admin: http://www.easyscreens.info/?v=1992 .

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 30, 2007, 08:37:57 pm
Now either just do a reload router or if that does not get the remote working then reboot the MD and it will be!

Sorry, tried to imply that I had gotten to that through the forum search so you didn't have to repost.  Tried and failed following those steps more than a few times.  This doesn't bode well for my system... Where does one go after the tried and true method fails?  Anyway, I see that niz23 says he had this issue with beta1.  If I remember correctly, the short period that beta-1 was available, it was only in 64 bit form.  Could the fact that my MD configured under Architecture: amd64 be a problem?  How would I force it to go 32 bit instead?

Screenshot of web admin: http://www.easyscreens.info/?v=1992 .



Its possible that your problem is related to your MD being added as a 64bit MD... there are still some gaps in the 64bit support (however we have tested 64bit MD's with full MCE IR support working).

You Can force and MD to rebuild as 32bit by going to Web Admin -> Wizard -> Devices -> Media Directors and scrolling to your MD and then entering 'i386' in the 'Operating System' field and then clicking 'Rebuild Image'. This will regenerate the boot image for the MD as 32bit i386... you may then still need to do the 'depmod' procedure from my earlier post  if IR still does not work.

Hope this works for you

Andrew

****Update****
Oops... my earlier instructions were incorrect as they specified the 'Operating System' field. Please follow the updated instructions below;

In Web Admin -> Wizard -> Devices -> Media Directors change the 'Architecture' device data for the md device from amd64 to i386
Now regenerate the image. (this should be done without the MD being booted ideally)

****Update****
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on December 31, 2007, 12:50:59 am
You should choose vdr if you plan to use it as your chosen PVR application ;-)

Thanks, Andrew. I'll do another install and see what happens.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: stiev3 on December 31, 2007, 02:51:11 am
I'm still working on it, just want to report that my issue most likely had nothing to do with my MD being 64bit and that the mce_usb2 should 'just work'.

Somewhere in the rebuilding image process, it configured my mce_usb2 reciever before it went for my bluetooth dongle.  The result was a working mce_usb2 remote+receiver and a bluetooth dongle giving me nearly the same error as I was getting previously, with the black screen of "some devices didn't startup correctly".  Now I'm looking into trying to clear out whatever conflict these two devices have with eachother that only let's one get through the setup process with the other failing.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on December 31, 2007, 07:50:29 am
Hi all,

Daniel provided a beta2 image yesterday. Installation went fine for me.

http://vt100.at/kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso.torrent

Don't bother downloading older versions (beta1 or amd64), they have some issues and probably won't work for you.

best regards,
Hari

I've installed both 0704 and 0710Beta2, and I've not been able to get Myth working under LMCE. In both cases, it seems to be that Appserver does not start up.

I'm using Gigabyte Motherboard with Intel processor, NVidia 7300GT, Creative Audigy Value and Leadtek Winfast DTV1000T.

I can get Myth working under KDE, but not under LMCE, where I just get a black screen and eventually get told Myth is having a problem and do I want to reset the backend. It seems that all the hardware works - the problem is that Appserver (device #15) does not start up. When LMCE is starting, the log shows a timeout waiting for Appserver to be registered, and eventually I get a black screen saying not all devices started up.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this - any ideas where I can find some relevant logs to point me in the right direction? The Wiki is very sparse on info for Appserver.

Best Regards,
Richard.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 31, 2007, 10:08:41 am
Hi all,

Daniel provided a beta2 image yesterday. Installation went fine for me.

http://vt100.at/kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso.torrent

Don't bother downloading older versions (beta1 or amd64), they have some issues and probably won't work for you.

best regards,
Hari

I've installed both 0704 and 0710Beta2, and I've not been able to get Myth working under LMCE. In both cases, it seems to be that Appserver does not start up.

I'm using Gigabyte Motherboard with Intel processor, NVidia 7300GT, Creative Audigy Value and Leadtek Winfast DTV1000T.

I can get Myth working under KDE, but not under LMCE, where I just get a black screen and eventually get told Myth is having a problem and do I want to reset the backend. It seems that all the hardware works - the problem is that Appserver (device #15) does not start up. When LMCE is starting, the log shows a timeout waiting for Appserver to be registered, and eventually I get a black screen saying not all devices started up.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this - any ideas where I can find some relevant logs to point me in the right direction? The Wiki is very sparse on info for Appserver.

Best Regards,
Richard.


Hi Richard,

Can you post a Mantis about this problem in the 0710 Beta here please; http://mantis.linuxmce.org/ (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/)

Thanks
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on December 31, 2007, 10:40:52 am

Hi Richard,

Can you post a Mantis about this problem in the 0710 Beta here please; http://mantis.linuxmce.org/ (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/)

Thanks

Will do, Andrew. I'm currently doing a fresh install, putting into action everything I've learned over the last few days. When I'm done, I'll be able to post the issue in Mantis more clearly, and without any of the misleading information that comes from thinking something is happening without clear evidence

Best Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 31, 2007, 11:28:35 am

Hi Richard,

Can you post a Mantis about this problem in the 0710 Beta here please; http://mantis.linuxmce.org/ (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/)

Thanks

Will do, Andrew. I'm currently doing a fresh install, putting into action everything I've learned over the last few days. When I'm done, I'll be able to post the issue in Mantis more clearly, and without any of the misleading information that comes from thinking something is happening without clear evidence

Best Regards,
Richard


Great, Thanks
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: nite_man on December 31, 2007, 12:06:07 pm
I installed 0710 beta under vmware and I can confirm that menu Climate is not presented in UI2 but it exists in UI1.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 31, 2007, 03:08:10 pm
I installed 0710 beta under vmware and I can confirm that menu Climate is not presented in UI2 but it exists in UI1.

Hey thanks for confirming that Michael.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Zaerc on December 31, 2007, 04:54:59 pm
Hi all,

Daniel provided a beta2 image yesterday. Installation went fine for me.

http://vt100.at/kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso.torrent

Don't bother downloading older versions (beta1 or amd64), they have some issues and probably won't work for you.

best regards,
Hari

I've installed both 0704 and 0710Beta2, and I've not been able to get Myth working under LMCE. In both cases, it seems to be that Appserver does not start up.

I'm using Gigabyte Motherboard with Intel processor, NVidia 7300GT, Creative Audigy Value and Leadtek Winfast DTV1000T.

I can get Myth working under KDE, but not under LMCE, where I just get a black screen and eventually get told Myth is having a problem and do I want to reset the backend. It seems that all the hardware works - the problem is that Appserver (device #15) does not start up. When LMCE is starting, the log shows a timeout waiting for Appserver to be registered, and eventually I get a black screen saying not all devices started up.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this - any ideas where I can find some relevant logs to point me in the right direction? The Wiki is very sparse on info for Appserver.

Best Regards,
Richard.

Did you by any chance disable asterisk and/or text-to-speech?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: GTO on December 31, 2007, 05:35:01 pm
may i know where can i download the 3.8 gig ISO?


is it possible to do a net install with the 5.12gig iso?

my com supports network booting
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on December 31, 2007, 05:54:30 pm
may i know where can i download the 3.8 gig ISO?


is it possible to do a net install with the 5.12gig iso?

my com supports network booting


Unfortunately there is no 3.8gig iso publicly available right now... there will be later this week though.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean re net install with the 5gig iso... but once installed all LinuxMCE versions will allow networked machines to be PXE booted from your local LAN.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: danielk on December 31, 2007, 06:28:27 pm
Theoretically you could mount the iso, copy it's files to another directory (preserving permissions and ownership), truncate PlutoMD-amd64.tar.bz2 and PlutoMD-i386.tar.bz2 in diskless-images, then create a new isolinux bootable image using the remaining files and burn that to a single layer DVD; then after installing it copy over the diskless images for MDs. But as totallymaxed pointed out there should be a new set of betas soon where the AMD64 version has only PlutoMD-amd64.tar.bz2 and the i386 has only PlutoMD-i386.tar.bz2, and with some fat trimmed so that the whole thing fits on a single layer DVD.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on January 01, 2008, 01:45:37 am

I've installed both 0704 and 0710Beta2, and I've not been able to get Myth working under LMCE. In both cases, it seems to be that Appserver does not start up.

I'm using Gigabyte Motherboard with Intel processor, NVidia 7300GT, Creative Audigy Value and Leadtek Winfast DTV1000T.

I can get Myth working under KDE, but not under LMCE, where I just get a black screen and eventually get told Myth is having a problem and do I want to reset the backend. It seems that all the hardware works - the problem is that Appserver (device #15) does not start up. When LMCE is starting, the log shows a timeout waiting for Appserver to be registered, and eventually I get a black screen saying not all devices started up.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this - any ideas where I can find some relevant logs to point me in the right direction? The Wiki is very sparse on info for Appserver.

Best Regards,
Richard.

Did you by any chance disable asterisk and/or text-to-speech?

No, I didn't. Should I have done? I did a standard install, straight off the DVD.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on January 01, 2008, 01:56:34 am
I've just done a second install, and am still having problems. On the first install, I chose Myth when asked to choose between Myth and VDR.

On the first install, I had a full-screen menu, very different from the one I had under 0704. I had a Climate button, with no menu entries inside it. Here Device #15, Appserver, would not start up. As a result, I could not get MythTV working. At least, I think it is as a result - the reason I'm thinking Myth depends on Appserver is because I found something in the 0704 changelog which said something to that effect.

On the second install, where I chose VDR, I have a menu very similar to 0704. No Climate menu. Video and Audio work, but not TV. Appserver and Myth does not start up, and this time, neither does device number #73 (I can't remember what it is). However, I can watch TV under both Myth and Kaffeine under the KDE desktop. When I try under LMCE, all I get is black screen.

I'll go and post in Mantis, then I'll start looking at logs to see what I can find.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: GTO on January 01, 2008, 03:35:50 am
may i know where can i download the 3.8 gig ISO?


is it possible to do a net install with the 5.12gig iso?

my com supports network booting


Unfortunately there is no 3.8gig iso publicly available right now... there will be later this week though.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean re net install with the 5gig iso... but once installed all LinuxMCE versions will allow networked machines to be PXE booted from your local LAN.

Hmm.. what i meant was, if it was possible to setup another com as a server to host the iso file

while my main system with bios enabled network boot, get to be installed using the iso from the server


anyway thanks,
since it would be out later this week, ill wait for that instead.

another thing is, may i know which version of mythtv is in the package? 0.20.2?

is it possible for me to upgrade it to Mythtv SVN? and will it still work? because i tried to upgrade mythtv to svn in 7.04, it couldnt start mythtv anymore, saying that mythtv has died , and tried to restart it.

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: enrique.lopez on January 01, 2008, 02:39:05 pm
Installation à partir d'une image ISO sur le disque dur
[edit]

Pour cette installation, vous n'avez besoin que de votre disque dur. Dans ce qui suit, CD1.iso est le nom de fichier de l'image du premier disque d'installation.

1) Notez sur un papier le répertoire exact et la partition où vous avez téléchargé vos images ISO (par exemple : /home/mdv2007 et /dev/hda7).

2) Montez l'image du CD1 de Mandriva en loopback en tant que root (explication) :

mkdir /mnt/iso
mount -o ro,loop CD1.iso /mnt/iso

Si vous ne voyez rien apparaître dans /mnt/iso il peut être nécessaire d'ajouter le paramètre -t iso9660 à la ligne mount … :

...

mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop CD1.iso /mnt/iso

3) Copiez le kernel et l'initrd d'installation depuis le répertoire alt0 dans /boot :

cd /mnt/iso/i586/isolinux/alt0
cp all.rdz /boot/install.rdz
cp vmlinuz /boot/install

4) Créez une entrée lilo en rajoutant dans le fichier /etc/lilo.conf :

image=/boot/install
        label=install
        root=/dev/ram3
        initrd=/boot/install.rdz
        vga=791

5) Exécutez la commande lilo :

lilo

6) Rebootez et choisissez l'entrée de menu install :

reboot

7) Vous arrivez maintenant dans le début de l'installateur en mode texte. Quand demandé, indiquez d'abord la partition, puis l'emplacement de CD1.iso (il n'y a pas de navigateur...).

8) Poursuivez l'installation normalement.
KB - Installation à partir d'une image ISO sur le disque dur

It's the possible solution for boot iso image within burn in DL DVD?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: enrique.lopez on January 01, 2008, 02:46:00 pm
SORRY in English

For this installation, you only need your hard drive. In what follows, CD1.iso is the filename of the image of the first installation disk.

1) Write a paper directory accurate and the partition where you downloaded your ISOs (eg / home/mdv2007 and / dev/hda7).

2) Set up the image of CD1 Mandriva loopback in as root (explain):

Mkdir / mnt / iso
Mount o ro, loop CD1.iso / mnt / iso

If you see nothing appear in / mnt / iso it may be necessary to add the parameter t iso9660 to line… mount:

...

Mount t iso9660 o ro, loop CD1.iso / mnt / iso

3) Copy the kernel and initrd instructions from the directory alt0 in / boot:

Cd / mnt/iso/i586/isolinux/alt0
Zip all.rdz / boot / install.rdz
Vmlinuz cp / boot / install

4) Create a lilo by adding entry in the / etc / lilo.conf:

Image = / boot / install
         Install label =
         Root = / dev/ram3
         Initrd = / boot / install.rdz
         Vga = 791

5) Run the command lilo:

Lilo

6) Reboot and choose the menu install:

Reboot

7) You are coming now in the beginning of the installer in text mode. When asked, indicate partition first, and then the location of CD1.iso (no browser ...).

8) Continue the installation normally.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Zaerc on January 01, 2008, 03:50:18 pm

I've installed both 0704 and 0710Beta2, and I've not been able to get Myth working under LMCE. In both cases, it seems to be that Appserver does not start up.

I'm using Gigabyte Motherboard with Intel processor, NVidia 7300GT, Creative Audigy Value and Leadtek Winfast DTV1000T.

I can get Myth working under KDE, but not under LMCE, where I just get a black screen and eventually get told Myth is having a problem and do I want to reset the backend. It seems that all the hardware works - the problem is that Appserver (device #15) does not start up. When LMCE is starting, the log shows a timeout waiting for Appserver to be registered, and eventually I get a black screen saying not all devices started up.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this - any ideas where I can find some relevant logs to point me in the right direction? The Wiki is very sparse on info for Appserver.

Best Regards,
Richard.

Did you by any chance disable asterisk and/or text-to-speech?

No, I didn't. Should I have done? I did a standard install, straight off the DVD.

No you shouldn't but that's the main reason, I've seen reported before, why the AppServer won't start, therefore I asked.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: GamerAyers on January 01, 2008, 05:56:45 pm
Since I do not have any DL dvds, is there any chance to run a forced update to 710 beta 2 instead of buying some disks and burning it off?  That would be very helpful.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: colinjones on January 01, 2008, 10:58:01 pm
Theoretically you could mount the iso, copy it's files to another directory (preserving permissions and ownership), truncate PlutoMD-amd64.tar.bz2 and PlutoMD-i386.tar.bz2 in diskless-images, then create a new isolinux bootable image using the remaining files and burn that to a single layer DVD; then after installing it copy over the diskless images for MDs. But as totallymaxed pointed out there should be a new set of betas soon where the AMD64 version has only PlutoMD-amd64.tar.bz2 and the i386 has only PlutoMD-i386.tar.bz2, and with some fat trimmed so that the whole thing fits on a single layer DVD.

danielk - would that then mean that you can only run AMD MDs on an AMD core, and the same for Intel? Was that always the case?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on January 01, 2008, 11:32:46 pm
Theoretically you could mount the iso, copy it's files to another directory (preserving permissions and ownership), truncate PlutoMD-amd64.tar.bz2 and PlutoMD-i386.tar.bz2 in diskless-images, then create a new isolinux bootable image using the remaining files and burn that to a single layer DVD; then after installing it copy over the diskless images for MDs. But as totallymaxed pointed out there should be a new set of betas soon where the AMD64 version has only PlutoMD-amd64.tar.bz2 and the i386 has only PlutoMD-i386.tar.bz2, and with some fat trimmed so that the whole thing fits on a single layer DVD.

danielk - would that then mean that you can only run AMD MDs on an AMD core, and the same for Intel? Was that always the case?

No in fact you can intermix the two ;-)
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on January 02, 2008, 12:20:32 am
Did you by any chance disable asterisk and/or text-to-speech?

No, I didn't. Should I have done? I did a standard install, straight off the DVD.

No you shouldn't but that's the main reason, I've seen reported before, why the AppServer won't start, therefore I asked.


Thanks for that. Although I doubt it's happening, I'll go and check the logs to see if either of these is impacting Appserver's ability to start.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available-problem with network boot
Post by: dgirard on January 02, 2008, 04:59:17 am
OK, I've got the 0710 beta installed in a VM, and it appears to be up and running.

I cannot seem to get the network boot working.   I've tried using my existing MD (which network boots from my production core with no problem), and a VM MD and neither one will network boot from the new 0710 core.

It gets an IP addy from the dhcp server on the core, but TFTP fails...I get a message:
PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
TFTP...

I've reinstalled the core twice and see the same problem.  I've got all firewalls turned off on the core and on the system hosting the VM, so it *should* work?!

I even tried adding the MD device manually.  It looks like the appropriate TFTP boot files are where they're supposed to be, but it's almost like the tftp server isn't running on the core...

When I try to manually start the TFTP service on the core, it reports that the port is busy...so I'm guessing TFTP runs as an inetd service...I don't see any logging of tftp connections, but I'm not exactly sure where to look...

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
David
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available-problem with network boot
Post by: totallymaxed on January 02, 2008, 09:19:18 am
OK, I've got the 0710 beta installed in a VM, and it appears to be up and running.

I cannot seem to get the network boot working.   I've tried using my existing MD (which network boots from my production core with no problem), and a VM MD and neither one will network boot from the new 0710 core.

It gets an IP addy from the dhcp server on the core, but TFTP fails...I get a message:
PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
TFTP...

I've reinstalled the core twice and see the same problem.  I've got all firewalls turned off on the core and on the system hosting the VM, so it *should* work?!

I even tried adding the MD device manually.  It looks like the appropriate TFTP boot files are where they're supposed to be, but it's almost like the tftp server isn't running on the core...

When I try to manually start the TFTP service on the core, it reports that the port is busy...so I'm guessing TFTP runs as an inetd service...I don't see any logging of tftp connections, but I'm not exactly sure where to look...

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
David

Hmmm... well I can confirm that the 0710 beta does network boot MD's ok. So my thinking is that this problem is specific to your installation... maybe to do with the 'virtual' eth0 conflicting with the host OS use of the physical eth0? Just a thought...
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on January 02, 2008, 01:52:22 pm
Did you by any chance disable asterisk and/or text-to-speech?

No, I didn't. Should I have done? I did a standard install, straight off the DVD.

No you shouldn't but that's the main reason, I've seen reported before, why the AppServer won't start, therefore I asked.


Thanks for that. Although I doubt it's happening, I'll go and check the logs to see if either of these is impacting Appserver's ability to start.

Logs don't show much that I can use without going through the source code. Appserver is dying with return code 139. Does that mean anything to anyone?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: mlb5000 on January 03, 2008, 08:56:22 pm
I read that 'niz23' encountered issues when attempting to install the hd-dvd/blu-ray ripping utilities but has anyone tested the playback functionality yet?  I just started looking into this I'd be completely sold if Blu-ray/HD-DVD worked in 0710.  I'm looking to get an LG GGC-H20L dual format reader for my current Vista Home Premium media center (I have the XBOX 360 HD-DVD drive now) and I'd really like to be able to use it if I move to LMCE.  Also, how much will the requirements for the thin-clients change in order to allow HD-DVD and Blu-ray playback?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 03, 2008, 11:49:04 pm
I can tell you guys, that i managed to install the beta2 ( 0710 ) form an external harddrive by following some tutorials ( iso from usb hdd ) ( I will post this later on, because its a bit tricky to do ),
(..._
If someone wants to know something about my findings feel free to ask, and for the developers keep up the good work.

Would you please post your instructions for installing 0710 from a DVD image file? Thanks.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: rmwlaw on January 04, 2008, 02:39:42 pm
No disrespect intended, so please do not flame back.

I am curious as to the timetable for the release of the 0710 version of LMCE. I presume that it will be released shortly. Note that the next version of K/Ubuntu is scheduled to be released on April 24, 2008, approximately 100 days from today?

Once again, not complaining as I am not the developer nor a tester, just an interested user in a developing software package that should gain tremendous traction this year, and entice users to abandon Winblows as a platform for home automation and htpc purposes.

Best wishes to the developers and testers, and looking forward to the release of LMCE 0710.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 04, 2008, 02:56:26 pm
2) Set up the image of CD1 Mandriva loopback in as root (explain):

(...)

3) Copy the kernel and initrd instructions from the directory alt0 in / boot:

Cd / mnt/iso/i586/isolinux/alt0
Zip all.rdz / boot / install.rdz
Vmlinuz cp / boot / install

4) Create a lilo by adding entry in the / etc / lilo.conf:

Those instructions (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Notez+sur+un+papier+le+r%C3%A9pertoire+exact+et+la+partition+o%C3%B9+vous+avez+t%C3%A9l%C3%A9charg%C3%A9+vos+images+ISO%22) work for installing Mandriva Linux. Kubuntu/LMCE does not have either an alt0/all.rdz/etc or use lilo (it uses grub instead).

Does anyone have actual instructions for installing 0710b2 from a DVD ISO file, that they've actually tested to work?

Failing that, can I just mount the ISO file as a loopback, delete the PlutoMD-[amd64,i386].tar.bz2 file that I'm not using, unmount the ISO file, and burn it to a single-layer DVD that's no longer too big to fit?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: enrique.lopez on January 04, 2008, 03:31:05 pm
2) Set up the image of CD1 Mandriva loopback in as root (explain):

(...)

3) Copy the kernel and initrd instructions from the directory alt0 in / boot:

Cd / mnt/iso/i586/isolinux/alt0
Zip all.rdz / boot / install.rdz
Vmlinuz cp / boot / install

4) Create a lilo by adding entry in the / etc / lilo.conf:

Those instructions (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Notez+sur+un+papier+le+r%C3%A9pertoire+exact+et+la+partition+o%C3%B9+vous+avez+t%C3%A9l%C3%A9charg%C3%A9+vos+images+ISO%22) work for installing Mandriva Linux. Kubuntu/LMCE does not have either an alt0/all.rdz/etc or use lilo (it uses grub instead).

Does anyone have actual instructions for installing 0710b2 from a DVD ISO file, that they've actually tested to work?

Failing that, can I just mount the ISO file as a loopback, delete the PlutoMD-[amd64,i386].tar.bz2 file that I'm not using, unmount the ISO file, and burn it to a single-layer DVD that's no longer too big to fit?
I'm no testing, just i ask in forum this possibility.
I not done mount ISO file as a loopback for delete plutoMD.
Thanks.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on January 04, 2008, 04:19:00 pm
I've installed both 0704 and 0710Beta2, and I've not been able to get Myth working under LMCE. In both cases, it seems to be that Appserver does not start up.

I'm using Gigabyte Motherboard with Intel processor, NVidia 7300GT, Creative Audigy Value and Leadtek Winfast DTV1000T.

I can get Myth working under KDE, but not under LMCE, where I just get a black screen and eventually get told Myth is having a problem and do I want to reset the backend. It seems that all the hardware works - the problem is that Appserver (device #15) does not start up. When LMCE is starting, the log shows a timeout waiting for Appserver to be registered, and eventually I get a black screen saying not all devices started up.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this - any ideas where I can find some relevant logs to point me in the right direction? The Wiki is very sparse on info for Appserver.

Best Regards,
Richard.


Problem solved, courtesy of Hodge.
Turned out that Appserver needs a sound mixer device to work with, and my soundcard (Audigy Value) does not have one. Installation of a software mixer had my system up and running smoothly. Still don't have sound working (I had sound before installing the software mixer), but I don't see that as a problem - it's just a chance of configuring the software mixer properly, or putting in a soundcard with a hardware mixer.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 04, 2008, 05:08:37 pm
Turned out that Appserver needs a sound mixer device to work with, and my soundcard (Audigy Value) does not have one. Installation of a software mixer had my system up and running smoothly. Still don't have sound working (I had sound before installing the software mixer)

Would you report that bug in Mantis? The installer should detect whether the mixer exists, and install one if it doesn't. And why the AppServer is dependent on a sound mixer is a mystery to me.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tschak909 on January 04, 2008, 05:43:19 pm
if you look at the code for the AppServer, it will become clear, particularly that the app server deals with allocating and launching external applications from the orbiter, and tries to control the sound card so that we don't have situations where multiple programs try to exclusively grab the soundcard. This is vastly oversimplified, but that's the reason why the App server controls the sound card.. not saying it's perfect...but that's the way it is, now.

-Thom
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 04, 2008, 06:13:53 pm
if you look at the code for the AppServer, it will become clear, particularly that the app server deals with allocating and launching external applications from the orbiter, and tries to control the sound card so that we don't have situations where multiple programs try to exclusively grab the soundcard. This is vastly oversimplified, but that's the reason why the App server controls the sound card.. not saying it's perfect...but that's the way it is, now.

That logic would make some sense, on a MD/Hybrid. If anything, the AppServer should block running apps on a host that is just a Core (not also a MD).

There's practically no AppServer docs. Is it a completely custom app, or is it related to any other app servers? Other than the code, is there any other discussion of how it works?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tschak909 on January 04, 2008, 07:39:21 pm
and actually... if you look at a multi MD setup, there are App servers for each media director. They deal with launching the apps on each media director.

As a side effect of sound card management, a set of commands had to be added to manage the sound card volume/mute/etc as well.

-Thom
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tkmedia on January 04, 2008, 08:55:05 pm
Problems with sony disc changer with 0710

I can not ID or play disc on my disc changer after installing the 0710 beta

Anyone else seeing this.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on January 05, 2008, 02:50:39 am
if you look at the code for the AppServer, it will become clear, particularly that the app server deals with allocating and launching external applications from the orbiter, and tries to control the sound card so that we don't have situations where multiple programs try to exclusively grab the soundcard. This is vastly oversimplified, but that's the reason why the App server controls the sound card.. not saying it's perfect...but that's the way it is, now.

-Thom


Yep... thats correct Thom. Nice explananation ;-)
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on January 05, 2008, 02:52:45 am
Problems with sony disc changer with 0710

I can not ID or play disc on my disc changer after installing the 0710 beta

Anyone else seeing this.

Hi - Mantis that please (make sure you add it to one of the 0710 speficic sections). Thanks :-)
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on January 06, 2008, 01:26:39 pm
Turned out that Appserver needs a sound mixer device to work with, and my soundcard (Audigy Value) does not have one. Installation of a software mixer had my system up and running smoothly. Still don't have sound working (I had sound before installing the software mixer)

Would you report that bug in Mantis? The installer should detect whether the mixer exists, and install one if it doesn't. And why the AppServer is dependent on a sound mixer is a mystery to me.

Will Do.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Zaerc on January 07, 2008, 05:29:23 am
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

WARNING: improper use of the following commands will likely destroy other partitions if you're not careful!!!  This is not for the squimish and your mileage may vary:




# create /dev/sdaX
fdisk


reboot


#mount the ISO
cd /where/you/saved/the/iso
mkdir -pv /media/linuxmce
mount -v kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso /media/linuxmce -o loop,ro -t iso9660


# Create a filesystem on the new partition.
mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdaX


# Mount the new partition and go there
mkdir -pv /media/sdaX
mount /dev/sdaX /media/sdaX
cd /media/sdaX


# Untar the base.
cat /media/linuxmce/lmce-image/linux-mce.tar.gz_0{0,1} | gzip -cd | tar xvf -

# Put a few things in their place.
rmdir lost+found
mklost+found
mkdir -pv dev proc
cp -iv /media/linuxmce/lmce-image/firstboot etc/init.d/
ln -sv ../init.d/firstboot etc/rc2.d/S90firstboot
cp -iv /media/linuxmce/diskless-images/* usr/pluto/install/


# Find the UUIDs of the partitions we're goting to use.
vol_id -u /dev/sdaX # newly created
#>      d43aaa52-a120-47f5-aae7-721aa5fe90a7    # mine for example
vol_id -u /dev/sdaY # existing swap
#>      593b77dd-54c8-42cd-acb7-2d7c76c2c7f1    # mine for example

# Use those numbers to edit the following files:
vi boot/grub/menu.lst
vi etc/fstab

# You may want to skip this one if you only have one NIC.
#vi etc/network/interfaces
sed 's/eth0:1/eth1/g' -i etc/network/interfaces

# Let the system detect your NIC(s) instead.
#vi etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
sed '/"net".*"eth."/d' -i etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules


grep '^mysql:' etc/passwd | cut -d: -f3,4
#>      109:119         # 0704, 0710 beta1-2

# Change ownership of the database files.
find var/lib/mysql ! -user root -exec chown 109:119 '{}' \;



reboot




Everything is done as the root user, and you will need to replace /dev/sdaX and /dev/sdaY with the partitions you created or want to use.  You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

No guarantees that this will give you a properly working system, but so far everything seems to work fine for me.

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 07, 2008, 05:41:21 am
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

Thanks - that procedure makes sense, and is certainly a little different from the one I'm using that's failing, in what seems like the relevant places. Especially since the change I made to my instructions, adding
Code: [Select]
title ISO image on sda3 (LMCE v0710b2)
kernel (hd0,2)/casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 BOOTMEDIA=cd
initrd (hd0,2)/casper/initrd.gz
boot
booted OK, except that the partition somehow was mounted on a dir called "/root", and booting halted in (initramfs) with a busybox shell and (I assume initramfs) stuff in /. When I changed it to "root=(hd0,2)/dev/sda3", I got a "init: /init 157 Error divide by zero" kernel panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem. Kind of a showstopper.


You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Well, since that's what's killed me in my other method, would you specify the target I'd need to add to menu.lst? Thanks again for the assist.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: RichardP on January 07, 2008, 06:47:30 am
Would you report that bug in Mantis? The installer should detect whether the mixer exists, and install one if it doesn't. And why the AppServer is dependent on a sound mixer is a mystery to me.

I'm going through the process of getting the source code to have a look at it, but I doubt it is dependant on it. More likely it is setting the sound volume or something like that, and not checking beforehand whether it exists. Bad things happen in code when you do something to a non-existant object.  :o

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jetrich on January 07, 2008, 04:54:36 pm
Problems with sony disc changer with 0710

I can not ID or play disc on my disc changer after installing the 0710 beta

Anyone else seeing this.

I haven't installed the beta yet, but this makes me glad I haven't...

My wife and kids (not to mention the kids that come to my house for the daycare) would have a fit if they couldn't access the movies.

Did the display issues reported on mantis http://mantis.linuxmce.org/view.php?id=3530 (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/view.php?id=3530) relating to the sony changers get corrected at all?

Jason
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 07, 2008, 06:58:25 pm
Problems with sony disc changer with 0710

I can not ID or play disc on my disc changer after installing the 0710 beta

Anyone else seeing this.

I haven't installed the beta yet, but this makes me glad I haven't...

My wife and kids (not to mention the kids that come to my house for the daycare) would have a fit if they couldn't access the movies.

The (overdue) first public beta of something as complex as LMCE is not for the wife and kids (unless they're beta testers, too). But it's worth installing on something expendable so you can offer feedback to speed the delivery of the release for them, so the old annyoing bugs are gone faster.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jetrich on January 07, 2008, 07:09:40 pm
Problems with sony disc changer with 0710

I can not ID or play disc on my disc changer after installing the 0710 beta

Anyone else seeing this.

I haven't installed the beta yet, but this makes me glad I haven't...

My wife and kids (not to mention the kids that come to my house for the daycare) would have a fit if they couldn't access the movies.

The (overdue) first public beta of something as complex as LMCE is not for the wife and kids (unless they're beta testers, too). But it's worth installing on something expendable so you can offer feedback to speed the delivery of the release for them, so the old annyoing bugs are gone faster.

True enough. However, I was getting some intense pressure over the jerkiness and tearing issues in mythTV from the wife. Enough pressure in fact that I nearly installed the beta to remedy them. Unfortunately, I don't have a good spare machine to test with yet. Working on it though.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tkmedia on January 07, 2008, 08:22:33 pm
Quote
jerkiness and tearing issues in mythTV


A lot better in 0710
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 07, 2008, 08:54:21 pm
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

Thanks - that procedure makes sense, and is certainly a little different from the one I'm using that's failing, in what seems like the relevant places. Especially since the change I made to my instructions, adding
Code: [Select]
title ISO image on sda3 (LMCE v0710b2)
kernel (hd0,2)/casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 BOOTMEDIA=cd
initrd (hd0,2)/casper/initrd.gz
boot
booted OK, except that the partition somehow was mounted on a dir called "/root", and booting halted in (initramfs) with a busybox shell and (I assume initramfs) stuff in /. When I changed it to "root=(hd0,2)/dev/sda3", I got a "init: /init 157 Error divide by zero" kernel panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem. Kind of a showstopper.


You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Well, since that's what's killed me in my other method, would you specify the target I'd need to add to menu.lst? Thanks again for the assist.

I'm bumping this question, because someone has got to know how to specify the grub menu.lst so I can boot the beta and start testing it. I've been hung up for a week on this, even though a single-layer DVD image is now overdue, and I'm sure there are many more who are in the same boat who could be testing and speeding the release. Help?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tkmedia on January 07, 2008, 08:58:48 pm
Not that you should have to but DL DVD recorders players are cheap around $20 I paid more the media $39 for 15.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deepsin on January 07, 2008, 09:35:13 pm
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

Thanks - that procedure makes sense, and is certainly a little different from the one I'm using that's failing, in what seems like the relevant places. Especially since the change I made to my instructions, adding
Code: [Select]
title ISO image on sda3 (LMCE v0710b2)
kernel (hd0,2)/casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 BOOTMEDIA=cd
initrd (hd0,2)/casper/initrd.gz
boot
booted OK, except that the partition somehow was mounted on a dir called "/root", and booting halted in (initramfs) with a busybox shell and (I assume initramfs) stuff in /. When I changed it to "root=(hd0,2)/dev/sda3", I got a "init: /init 157 Error divide by zero" kernel panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem. Kind of a showstopper.


You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Well, since that's what's killed me in my other method, would you specify the target I'd need to add to menu.lst? Thanks again for the assist.

I'm bumping this question, because someone has got to know how to specify the grub menu.lst so I can boot the beta and start testing it. I've been hung up for a week on this, even though a single-layer DVD image is now overdue, and I'm sure there are many more who are in the same boat who could be testing and speeding the release. Help?

Can we do a network install like for most other distribution.. boot up with a small iso and then point it to rest of the distribution via http/nfs/ftp? May be its too complicated to be done, but just throwing out ideas..

Thanks
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 07, 2008, 10:26:15 pm
Not that you should have to but DL DVD recorders players are cheap around $20 I paid more the media $39 for 15.

True, but I'm not going to get a new piece of HW just because the beta releasers didn't "trim the fat" the way they said. Nor should that be a barrier to any other beta tester. I appreciate the encouragement, but I'm hellbent on booting from an ISO.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: 1audio on January 07, 2008, 10:45:16 pm
If the "ISO" can be made to work can it work from a USB flash drive? They are now in the mid $30 range http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2013240522+1309421176&name=8GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2013240522+1309421176&name=8GB) and it would be cheaper than discarding a few DVD's.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tkmedia on January 07, 2008, 10:50:49 pm
I know what you mean it boils down to time vs $ sometimes I will spend a week trying to save $60 on principle. I just happened to have recently bought  a DL drive, but it was still hard to pay $ 39 for DL media.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deepsin on January 07, 2008, 10:57:13 pm
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

Thanks - that procedure makes sense, and is certainly a little different from the one I'm using that's failing, in what seems like the relevant places. Especially since the change I made to my instructions, adding
Code: [Select]
title ISO image on sda3 (LMCE v0710b2)
kernel (hd0,2)/casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 BOOTMEDIA=cd
initrd (hd0,2)/casper/initrd.gz
boot
booted OK, except that the partition somehow was mounted on a dir called "/root", and booting halted in (initramfs) with a busybox shell and (I assume initramfs) stuff in /. When I changed it to "root=(hd0,2)/dev/sda3", I got a "init: /init 157 Error divide by zero" kernel panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem. Kind of a showstopper.


You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Well, since that's what's killed me in my other method, would you specify the target I'd need to add to menu.lst? Thanks again for the assist.

I'm bumping this question, because someone has got to know how to specify the grub menu.lst so I can boot the beta and start testing it. I've been hung up for a week on this, even though a single-layer DVD image is now overdue, and I'm sure there are many more who are in the same boat who could be testing and speeding the release. Help?

Matthew,

Have you looked into the contents of initrd.gz. I have seen different distribution have different stuff there. In one of the distro, they re-mount / after they have loaded correct driver to access the disk.

Perhaps you may have to make an entry there to remount root to /.

I am trying to download the iso(s) and once I have it will try to see whats in there... and will also try to reproduce the problem.

Thanks

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 08, 2008, 02:28:47 am
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

Thanks - that procedure makes sense, and is certainly a little different from the one I'm using that's failing, in what seems like the relevant places. Especially since the change I made to my instructions, adding
Code: [Select]
title ISO image on sda3 (LMCE v0710b2)
kernel (hd0,2)/casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 BOOTMEDIA=cd
initrd (hd0,2)/casper/initrd.gz
boot
booted OK, except that the partition somehow was mounted on a dir called "/root", and booting halted in (initramfs) with a busybox shell and (I assume initramfs) stuff in /. When I changed it to "root=(hd0,2)/dev/sda3", I got a "init: /init 157 Error divide by zero" kernel panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem. Kind of a showstopper.


You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Well, since that's what's killed me in my other method, would you specify the target I'd need to add to menu.lst? Thanks again for the assist.

I'm bumping this question, because someone has got to know how to specify the grub menu.lst so I can boot the beta and start testing it. I've been hung up for a week on this, even though a single-layer DVD image is now overdue, and I'm sure there are many more who are in the same boat who could be testing and speeding the release. Help?

Matthew,

Have you looked into the contents of initrd.gz. I have seen different distribution have different stuff there. In one of the distro, they re-mount / after they have loaded correct driver to access the disk.

Perhaps you may have to make an entry there to remount root to /.

Well, I don't think that it should be necessary to alter the initrd to get it to mount properly. It's kind of a hunch, because from what I understand about grub, the bootloader is specifying where to mount the image, the initrd is not doing that. But I'm not sure. I really don't know why the grub docs have to be so cryptic about how its params work. I mean, try finding out what other values "BOOTMEDIA" can take other than "cd", especially when the bootmedia is a hard drive partition, not a CD...


I am trying to download the iso(s) and once I have it will try to see whats in there... and will also try to reproduce the problem.

Thanks for helping out.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: domotiqa.com on January 08, 2008, 10:10:11 am
Hy,

I'd like to install the beta2 I downloaded, however I only have one 500GB HDD with existing windows install !
is there a way to install it without crashing other partitions ?
Shame not to be able to specify an existing partition where to install !!
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 08, 2008, 11:07:33 am
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

...

Everything is done as the root user, and you will need to replace /dev/sdaX and /dev/sdaY with the partitions you created or want to use.  You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

No guarantees that this will give you a properly working system, but so far everything seems to work fine for me.


Thanks for sharing this ... It did work for me with the required tweaking in the GRUB config file.

So far the new install seems to be working OK.

JC
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: domotiqa.com on January 08, 2008, 02:26:21 pm
thanks !!
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 08, 2008, 03:06:31 pm
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

...

Everything is done as the root user, and you will need to replace /dev/sdaX and /dev/sdaY with the partitions you created or want to use.  You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

No guarantees that this will give you a properly working system, but so far everything seems to work fine for me.


Thanks for sharing this ... It did work for me with the required tweaking in the GRUB config file.

So far the new install seems to be working OK.

What is "the required tweaking in the GRUB config file" exactly? I've posted my menu.lst section that fails - what does it need to be, exactly, to work? Is there some kind of taboo against specifically quoting your grub configs in public or something  ???
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 08, 2008, 05:28:30 pm
What is "the required tweaking in the GRUB config file" exactly? I've posted my menu.lst section that fails - what does it need to be, exactly, to work? Is there some kind of taboo against specifically quoting your grub configs in public or something  ???

Hello Matthew,

No there is nothing secret in the menu.lst file. But its content will depend on some choices you do at install time.

For example, on my system, I have mythbuntu (7.10) installed with the following partitionning:

/dev/sda1 -> /boot
/dev/sda2 -> swap
/dev/sda3 -> / (with the mythbuntu 7.10 install)

So using mythbuntu I decided to install linuxmce on /dev/sda4. My idea was to keep the mythbuntu install and add linuxmce on /dev/sda4 while having both linuxmce and mythbuntu sharing the same /boot (/dev/sda1) and swap (/dev/sda2). This allows to share the menu.lst and the kernels between the 2 systems.

So in the end, here is what I have in my menu.lst file:

Code: [Select]
# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
#            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default         2

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout         3

...

## ## End Default Options ##

title           Mythbuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root            (hd0,0)
kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=10e3ce7b-53ca-4090-ac60-c3c59617d9a4 ro quiet splash
initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title           Mythbuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root            (hd0,0)
kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=10e3ce7b-53ca-4090-ac60-c3c59617d9a4 ro single
initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title           LINUXMCE 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root            (hd0,0)
kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=41d0b807-e90d-446a-944c-9aff3a82ce03 ro quiet splash
initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title           LINUXMCE 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root            (hd0,0)
kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=41d0b807-e90d-446a-944c-9aff3a82ce03 ro single
initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title           Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root            (hd0,0)
kernel          /memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

It is not necessarily the best solution but it works for me and I am happy with it so far.

The fact is that in the end the GRUB tweaking depends on your system and what you want to achieve. I don't think there is a single recipe.

Note: the above setting means I have done a bit more customization in /etc/fstab than Zaerc did in order to allow the /boot partition to be mounted by linuxmce. But it should be relatively trivial to deduce.

BTW, for people without an american/qwerty keyboard, don't forget to run "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" after the first reboot to adapt your keyboard setting accordingly.

I hope it helps.

JC




Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on January 08, 2008, 06:08:29 pm
Hi all,

Daniel provided a beta2 image yesterday. Installation went fine for me.

http://vt100.at/kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso.torrent

Don't bother downloading older versions (beta1 or amd64), they have some issues and probably won't work for you.

best regards,
Hari

The hot news today is that there will be an 'official' Beta1 released as soon as the new build server has been tested and is delivering good iso's... which its not quite doing at the moment. At a guess I would think that will be next week at the latest... and I would expect that by then we will offer 32bit & 64bit versions and vdr integration will be there too :-)

So thanks very much for your patience with us todate... we do realise how frustrating the wait is!

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: tkmedia on January 08, 2008, 06:20:38 pm
I am confused  ??? will the beta 1 or beta 2 more up to date.

I have already installed beta2 32 bit.

What is the advantage of beta1 just the option to install 64bit


Tim
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: danielk on January 08, 2008, 08:26:49 pm
It will be probably be called "Beta 3" to avoid confusion. The earlier betas were only meant to be released to the developers on the lmce-dev mailing list, but due to a miscommunication between myself and Hari were posted to the forum. (They aren't super secret or anything like that, it's just that all the warnings were posted to the mailing list and most people there knew that the betas could hose their systems; thankfully developer beta 2 wasn't quite as dangerous as developer beta 1.)

The hope is that the next beta will have both the "VDR" and "MythTV" working properly. FIY I posted directions to creating the patched MythTV packages to the lmce-dev mailing list on Friday for anyone interested.

-- Daniel
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: deepsin on January 09, 2008, 12:26:32 am
I downloaded kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso locally. But when I mounted the iso to take peek inside it I see the following in isolinux.cfg

" Install LinuxMCE 0710 for I386 ".

I hope this doesn't means that I can't install on my amd64 machine? As in the past installers have given me this problem...

Thanks in advance..
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Disarm on January 09, 2008, 08:41:49 am
2 questions for the "beta3":

-Is it gonna be upgradeable to the oficial 0710 final release?

-is it a clean install as the beta2 or is there gonna be an upgrade for the 0704 release?

Thanks

A.J.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 09, 2008, 09:32:41 am
I downloaded kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso locally. But when I mounted the iso to take peek inside it I see the following in isolinux.cfg

" Install LinuxMCE 0710 for I386 ".

I hope this doesn't means that I can't install on my amd64 machine? As in the past installers have given me this problem...

Thanks in advance..

I installed kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso on an amd64 system without trouble.

JC
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cirion on January 09, 2008, 09:44:49 am
What version of VDR can we expect in the upcomming "Beta3"?
Will it be based on 0.5.12 with support for HD channels?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on January 09, 2008, 12:29:54 pm
What version of VDR can we expect in the upcomming "Beta3"?
Will it be based on 0.5.12 with support for HD channels?

we are using vdr-1.4.7 in the 0710 release
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on January 09, 2008, 12:42:20 pm
2 questions for the "beta3":

-Is it gonna be upgradeable to the oficial 0710 final release?

-is it a clean install as the beta2 or is there gonna be an upgrade for the 0704 release?

Thanks

A.J.

When you install from the Beta DVD onto a drive that already has an 0710 installation this will be detected and it will offer you the option to use the existing settings for the Core and any MD's you have created. So in this way you can retain the settings and setup between DVD installs.

The DVD installer will still wipe the drive you install to just as the current DVD installs do.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: GTO on January 09, 2008, 02:23:34 pm
would the final version allow users to create different partitions?

so that 2 linux distribution can coexist in a system?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 09, 2008, 02:50:00 pm
The DVD installer will still wipe the drive you install to just as the current DVD installs do.

That's too bad ...

It is obviously not "required" as shown by the install procedure proposed by Zaerc previously ...

Why is it not just an option?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 09, 2008, 03:49:24 pm
Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

WARNING: improper use of the following commands will likely destroy other partitions if you're not careful!!!  This is not for the squimish and your mileage may vary:




# create /dev/sdaX
fdisk


reboot


#mount the ISO
cd /where/you/saved/the/iso
mkdir -pv /media/linuxmce
mount -v kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso /media/linuxmce -o loop,ro -t iso9660


# Create a filesystem on the new partition.
mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdaX


# Mount the new partition and go there
mkdir -pv /media/sdaX
mount /dev/sdaX /media/sdaX
cd /media/sdaX


# Untar the base.
cat /media/linuxmce/lmce-image/linux-mce.tar.gz_0{0,1} | gzip -cd | tar xvf -

# Put a few things in their place.
rmdir lost+found
mklost+found
mkdir -pv dev proc
cp -iv /media/linuxmce/lmce-image/firstboot etc/init.d/
ln -sv ../init.d/firstboot etc/rc2.d/S90firstboot
cp -iv /media/linuxmce/diskless-images/* usr/pluto/install/


# Find the UUIDs of the partitions we're goting to use.
vol_id -u /dev/sdaX # newly created
#>      d43aaa52-a120-47f5-aae7-721aa5fe90a7    # mine for example
vol_id -u /dev/sdaY # existing swap
#>      593b77dd-54c8-42cd-acb7-2d7c76c2c7f1    # mine for example

# Use those numbers to edit the following files:
vi boot/grub/menu.lst
vi etc/fstab

# You may want to skip this one if you only have one NIC.
#vi etc/network/interfaces
sed 's/eth0:1/eth1/g' -i etc/network/interfaces

# Let the system detect your NIC(s) instead.
#vi etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
sed '/"net".*"eth."/d' -i etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules


grep '^mysql:' etc/passwd | cut -d: -f3,4
#>      109:119         # 0704, 0710 beta1-2

# Change ownership of the database files.
find var/lib/mysql ! -user root -exec chown 109:119 '{}' \;



reboot




Everything is done as the root user, and you will need to replace /dev/sdaX and /dev/sdaY with the partitions you created or want to use.  You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

No guarantees that this will give you a properly working system, but so far everything seems to work fine for me.

I tried adapting those instructions to the FAT32 partition method that I'd posted (but which booted me into only initrd with the partition mounted not on / but on /root), but it still failed the same way. So I deleted the partition and started over using exactly those instructions (not the FAT32 adaptation of the "boot from USB Flash"). It still failed.

I created a 9GB partition as /dev/sda3 to accommodate the decompressed contents of the ISO, that total 7733028B on my partition. I got the UUID of the new partition and the existing swap partition:
Code: [Select]
# vol_id /dev/sda3
ID_FS_USAGE=filesystem
ID_FS_TYPE=ext3
ID_FS_VERSION=1.0
ID_FS_UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96cc
ID_FS_LABEL=
ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=
# vol_id /dev/sda5
ID_FS_USAGE=other
ID_FS_TYPE=swap
ID_FS_VERSION=2
ID_FS_UUID=39fa5a1b-76ae-405e-b87b-945965e2fdda
ID_FS_LABEL=
ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=

 Then I edited the partition's boot/grub/menu.lst:
Code: [Select]
title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96ccro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96cc ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

and the old menu.lst on /dev/sda1 (the 0704 active root partition mounted on /):
Code: [Select]
### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96ccro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

Then edited the sda1 /etc/fstab:
Code: [Select]
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=eae0e501-b376-42a3-991c-9f6f81a148c7 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr 0       1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=1b6d32f8-21f0-4c8c-9252-0ba4175bfdce /media/sdb1     ext3    defaults,user_xattr 0       2
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=aeb4d8bd-d55d-417e-b0fc-cde3267d954b /media/sdc1     ext3    defaults,user_xattr 0       2
# /dev/sda5
UUID=39fa5a1b-76ae-405e-b87b-945965e2fdda none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0

When I reboot, I get the menu.lst that's in sda1, and boot the "Ubuntu 7.10" that I just added. As usual, it boots into only initrd and stops. Mount shows that this time, there isn't even an sda3 mounted anywhere when it grinds to a halt.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: totallymaxed on January 09, 2008, 03:56:24 pm
The DVD installer will still wipe the drive you install to just as the current DVD installs do.

That's too bad ...

It is obviously not "required" as shown by the install procedure proposed by Zaerc previously ...

Why is it not just an option?


It just isn't I'm afraid... I think there is a Mantis suggesting it though. I do agree it would be a nice option...but it will not be in this release.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 09, 2008, 04:03:11 pm

Then edited the sda1 /etc/fstab:
Code: [Select]
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=eae0e501-b376-42a3-991c-9f6f81a148c7 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr 0       1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=1b6d32f8-21f0-4c8c-9252-0ba4175bfdce /media/sdb1     ext3    defaults,user_xattr 0       2
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=aeb4d8bd-d55d-417e-b0fc-cde3267d954b /media/sdc1     ext3    defaults,user_xattr 0       2
# /dev/sda5
UUID=39fa5a1b-76ae-405e-b87b-945965e2fdda none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0

When I reboot, I get the menu.lst that's in sda1, and boot the "Ubuntu 7.10" that I just added. As usual, it boots into only initrd and stops. Mount shows that this time, there isn't even an sda3 mounted anywhere when it grinds to a halt.

Did you change the /etc/fstab file on /dev/sda3 to match the partition UUID of your linuxmce system. Once you are booted on sda3 the fstab in sda1 is not used anymore. I am not even sure why you edited it.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 09, 2008, 04:24:16 pm

Then edited the sda1 /etc/fstab:
Code: [Select]
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=eae0e501-b376-42a3-991c-9f6f81a148c7 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr 0       1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=1b6d32f8-21f0-4c8c-9252-0ba4175bfdce /media/sdb1     ext3    defaults,user_xattr 0       2
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=aeb4d8bd-d55d-417e-b0fc-cde3267d954b /media/sdc1     ext3    defaults,user_xattr 0       2
# /dev/sda5
UUID=39fa5a1b-76ae-405e-b87b-945965e2fdda none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0

When I reboot, I get the menu.lst that's in sda1, and boot the "Ubuntu 7.10" that I just added. As usual, it boots into only initrd and stops. Mount shows that this time, there isn't even an sda3 mounted anywhere when it grinds to a halt.

Did you change the /etc/fstab file on /dev/sda3 to match the partition UUID of your linuxmce system. Once you are booted on sda3 the fstab in sda1 is not used anymore. I am not even sure why you edited it.

Actually I did, I just got confused while posting that last message (as you can see: the sda1 fstab partitions are the same old 0704 partitions not the new 0710 partition on sda3).

The actual sda3 0710 fstab in /mnt/sda3/etc/fstab:
Code: [Select]
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
# /dev/sda3
UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96cc       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr 0       1
# /dev/sda5
UUID=39fa5a1b-76ae-405e-b87b-945965e2fdda       none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 09, 2008, 04:54:06 pm

 Then I edited the partition's boot/grub/menu.lst:
Code: [Select]
title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96ccro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96cc ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

and the old menu.lst on /dev/sda1 (the 0704 active root partition mounted on /):
Code: [Select]
### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96ccro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet


Is this a typo in your post or are you really missing a space between "78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96cc" and "ro" in your menu.lst?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 09, 2008, 05:36:04 pm
Then I edited the partition's boot/grub/menu.lst:
Code: [Select]
title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96ccro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet
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[quote author=jcd link=topic=3546.msg20875#msg20875 date=1199894046]
Is this a typo in your post or are you really missing a space between "78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96cc" and "ro" in your menu.lst?
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Yes, it was an error in my menu.lst. I fixed it, rebooted into the 0710 partition, got an error on my LCD monitor while Kubuntu booted that signal frequency is out of range (H: 64.2Khz / V: 60.2Hz). Again it finished booting into only initrd.
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 09, 2008, 05:55:58 pm
can you run (when you are stuck in initrd/initramfs):

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# cat /proc/cmdline
This is just to check your parmeters.

Also can you mount sda3 "by hand" then?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 09, 2008, 06:52:29 pm
Success!:

can you run (when you are stuck in initrd/initramfs):

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# cat /proc/cmdline
This is just to check your parmeters.

Also can you mount sda3 "by hand" then?

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# cat /proc/cmdline
root=UUID=78785b3c-875f-4e35-8529-09f0e63d96ccro quiet splash

That's the old, buggy commandline from the sda1 menu.lst .

The existing MBR I installed with my previous (FAT32 sda3, a la USB Flash) process to point at that old 0704 menu.lst with 0710 added as an option, and I hadn't edited that menu.lst to fix the bug (thinking, like you, that it wasn't in the critical path). I fixed the sda1 menu.lst, booted into it, and now it works! 0710 loaded, and is now sitting at the AV Wizard Step 0. Thanks for all the help, mostly just correcting my boneheaded mistakes.

The net instructions I'm following now don't specify how to make the MBR point at the 0710 installer partition's menu.lst , even though that's the clean way to do this. If I have that MBR instruction, I'll revise and post this complete, tested process in the wiki.

Thanks for holding my hand through this :).
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: jcd on January 09, 2008, 07:01:33 pm
The existing MBR I installed with my previous (FAT32 sda3, a la USB Flash) process to point at that old 0704 menu.lst with 0710 added as an option, and I hadn't edited that menu.lst to fix the bug (thinking, like you, that it wasn't in the critical path). I fixed the sda1 menu.lst, booted into it, and now it works! 0710 loaded, and is now sitting at the AV Wizard Step 0. Thanks for all the help, mostly just correcting my boneheaded mistakes.

The net instructions I'm following now don't specify how to make the MBR point at the 0710 installer partition's menu.lst , even though that's the clean way to do this. If I have that MBR instruction, I'll revise and post this complete, tested process in the wiki.

That's why I choose to have a common /boot partition mounted by all my linux installations on this system. This sda1 (/boot) partition hold the MBR and the GRUB menu.lst. From there it points to different / (root) partition depending on the system to boot. And I can modify the menu.lst from any linux version I boot.

Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 09, 2008, 07:05:59 pm
The existing MBR I installed with my previous (FAT32 sda3, a la USB Flash) process to point at that old 0704 menu.lst with 0710 added as an option, and I hadn't edited that menu.lst to fix the bug (thinking, like you, that it wasn't in the critical path). I fixed the sda1 menu.lst, booted into it, and now it works! 0710 loaded, and is now sitting at the AV Wizard Step 0. Thanks for all the help, mostly just correcting my boneheaded mistakes.

The net instructions I'm following now don't specify how to make the MBR point at the 0710 installer partition's menu.lst , even though that's the clean way to do this. If I have that MBR instruction, I'll revise and post this complete, tested process in the wiki.

That's why I choose to have a common /boot partition mounted by all my linux installations on this system. This sda1 (/boot) partition hold the MBR and the GRUB menu.lst. From there it points to different / (root) partition depending on the system to boot. And I can modify the menu.lst from any linux version I boot.

I agree, for actual multiboot systems. But I multibooted this beta expecting it to multiboot only once or infrequently, after which I'd delete the 0704 boot partition. In any case, could you tell me the instructions for installing the MBR/grub/menu.lst in each of sda1 and sda3 , so I can complete these instructions for either scenario and add them to the wiki?
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: Matthew on January 09, 2008, 10:44:18 pm
The default login for the LMCE 0710b2 (as coded into the distributed DVD) is:
username: linuxmce
password: linuxmce
Title: Re: 0710 beta 2 available
Post by: cosbear on February 18, 2008, 10:50:54 am
Howdy All:

Not really sure where to post this.  I am downloading the beta 3 right now and have downloaded the beta 2 previously.  I have been downloading the torrent for a whole day and it looks like it will be another whole day before I have a completed ISO.  I am wondering why you all aren't using zsynch for iso distribution.  Zsync can be easily used to upgrade any Ubuntu derivative iso  from the last iso to the new one.  It's available in the Ubuntu repositories.  Zsync  compares the last release iso to the new one and downloads only the new bits and creates a verifiable iso that is identical to the original new iso in minutes.  All you have to do is use the command zsyncmake in the directory of the new iso and it will in moments create a file with the same name and the iso.zsync extension.  The zsynch file is then located on the server in the same folder as the new iso.  The zsync file is only a few MB's.  The end user downloads the zsynch file and places it in a folder with the old iso.  Then from that directory commands zsynch  "old iso"  "zsync file"  "address/new iso"

zsync -i linuxmcebeta2.iso linuxmcebeta3.iso.zsync -u http://address/linuxmcebeta3.iso

In minutes zsync figures the differences between the beta 2 and beta 3 iso's and downloads just the new bits, downloads them and recreates an exact copy of the new iso.  The md5sums will be identical.  zsync checks them at the beginning, all through the process on the fly and then again at the end of the process and produces a report.  My main home distro is Klikit which is still in beta.  We are using zsync for upgrading iso's from old to new with great success and less coasters overall.  The downloads are a fraction of what they would be otherwise.  Saving the end user many hours and the servers much bandwidth.  Just an idea.  It would be especially nice for those of us who a testing the beta's sequentially.  Just a thought, thanks for your kind attention.  Later... cos