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Title: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: againstawall on September 01, 2007, 05:30:25 am
Does anyone know how to rerun the AVWizard. I ran it during the initial setup but the video output I had problems. I have tried just running the AVWizard executable from the /usr/pluto/bin folder but it does not seem to run using the whole screen.

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: totallymaxed on September 01, 2007, 09:55:17 am
Does anyone know how to rerun the AVWizard. I ran it during the initial setup but the video output I had problems. I have tried just running the AVWizard executable from the /usr/pluto/bin folder but it does not seem to run using the whole screen.

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.

If you can get into the Orbiter then you can run the Avwizard  from the Linuxmce menu screen.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: dopey on September 03, 2007, 08:31:24 am
Executing the command /usr/pluto/bin/AVWizard_Run.sh will re-run the AV Wizard. Although it's not strictly necessary, you should kill all running X sessions before doing this (which also means you will need to kill the process that will respawn X).
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: dopey on September 03, 2007, 08:33:17 am
If you can get into the Orbiter then you can run the Avwizard  from the Linuxmce menu screen.

I think you are referring to another wizard. The one he is referring to allows you to completely setup the X configuration. The one in the Orbiter allows you to setup all the A/V devices connected to the media director.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: Hagen on September 03, 2007, 10:04:42 am
I think Totally is correct, there is an option to make the AV wizard appear on reboot
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: dopey on September 03, 2007, 11:50:10 am
I think Totally is correct, there is an option to make the AV wizard appear on reboot

You are right. I forgot about that as I never got it to work properly. It would always cause X to constantly crash and then reload. It would continue to do this until I killed the process that was reloading it and ran the AV Wizard manually.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: totallymaxed on September 03, 2007, 12:26:08 pm
I think Totally is correct, there is an option to make the AV wizard appear on reboot

You are right. I forgot about that as I never got it to work properly. It would always cause X to constantly crash and then reload. It would continue to do this until I killed the process that was reloading it and ran the AV Wizard manually.

:-)

As of 0704 it is best to run the AVwizard from within the Orbiter because the system needs to reboot first and then the AVwizard runas on restart and resets the all the AV related settings for the MD you running it on. Previously the Avwizard ran without rebooting first... and this caused a lot of problems.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: atreidae on September 03, 2007, 04:33:19 pm
Simple av wizard.. my test core atm moves between a tv, an lcd and my old crt in the bedroom.
Whilst booting the media center will make some escalating beep tones, Press the LEFT shift key for 5 seconds, a low frequency tone will sound signaling the AV wizard will run when x starts, if you hear the tones, escalate back up your to late.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: dopey on September 04, 2007, 03:43:02 am
As of 0704 it is best to run the AVwizard from within the Orbiter because the system needs to reboot first and then the AVwizard runas on restart and resets the all the AV related settings for the MD you running it on. Previously the Avwizard ran without rebooting first... and this caused a lot of problems.

Actually I was referring to the 0704 release and it does reboot before it starts that behavior. This is why so many people have been asking for that command.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: John@TunerUK on September 28, 2007, 01:33:29 am
Dragging up this old post, is there a way to do it safely without pressing left shift on the tones? I have no speaker on my motherboard, so waiting for a tone isn't really an option. I've tried rebooting and guessing when to press it, but to no avail.

The option to do this from the advanced section of linux mce would be far more user friendly :D
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: Zaerc on September 28, 2007, 02:16:26 am
Dragging up this old post, is there a way to do it safely without pressing left shift on the tones? I have no speaker on my motherboard, so waiting for a tone isn't really an option. I've tried rebooting and guessing when to press it, but to no avail.

The option to do this from the advanced section of linux mce would be far more user friendly :D

Do you mean like the "Video Res & Audio Setup" button in the Advanced>Advanced Screen (UI2), or more like the "Change Resolution" button in the lmce-launch-manager?  ;)

Another way is to change "AVWizardOverride" in the /etc/pluto.conf file to "1", followed by a reboot you can do that over the network if you can log in.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: John@TunerUK on September 28, 2007, 02:24:28 am
I mean the full AV Wizard. I'm moving the machine to my living room, where I will be using a TV connected to S-Video rather than a monitor connected to VGA, and a propper Dolby/DTS amp throught the spdif instead of PC speakers through the 3.5mm jacks, so I could really do with setting the whole lot up again.
I couldn't see anything in the advanced screen using UI2. I'll go and have another look :D

I can't seem to login over a network. Firewall settings perhaps? Is there a firewall?
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: Zaerc on September 28, 2007, 02:32:11 am
The problem is likely that the wrong output is selected, the easiest thing to do is probably to bring the monitor over to do the setup.  See also the AVWizard page in the wiki on which key (1-5) to press if you're doing it "blind".

And yes there is a firewall, you can add rules with the web-admin (which is also firewalled by default).
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: rwilson131 on September 28, 2007, 06:09:50 am
Sorry,
I actually moved that page to better reflect the content,  but here is the new link

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Troubleshooting_AVWizard

Thanks,
Rob
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: John@TunerUK on September 28, 2007, 10:48:35 am
OK, guys, cheers for that. Hopefully I should have a half decent setup by tonight. ;D
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: Zaerc on September 28, 2007, 11:32:59 am
Sorry,
I actually moved that page to better reflect the content,  but here is the new link

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Troubleshooting_AVWizard

Thanks,
Rob
Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep in mind not to refer to the wiki anymore as well.
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: rwilson131 on September 29, 2007, 08:14:52 am
Come on man, can we let this wiki thing rest.  You were shit on and the rant the Trout put on the wiki page was classless and stupid, we can all see that, but there are a few of us actually trying to improve the wiki so that many of these repeat questions can be easily found and people can trouble shoot their  problems.  Hopefully this will help you work on several of the things on your to do list and let you stop answering the same questions over and over again. 

No body is going to even look at the wiki for info if one of the most common posters on this forum keeps degrading it. 

It is obvious to me that you are serious about helping others get a working system, so your help with updating the pages would be greatly appreciated.   I am not a wiki admin, nor will I be, but I do want this to be a place of collaboration and not confrontation.  Please help us help others.

Thanks,
Rob
Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: Zaerc on September 29, 2007, 06:26:58 pm
Come on man, can we let this wiki thing rest.  You were shit on and the rant the Trout put on the wiki page was classless and stupid, we can all see that, but there are a few of us actually trying to improve the wiki so that many of these repeat questions can be easily found and people can trouble shoot their  problems.  Hopefully this will help you work on several of the things on your to do list and let you stop answering the same questions over and over again. 

No body is going to even look at the wiki for info if one of the most common posters on this forum keeps degrading it. 

It is obvious to me that you are serious about helping others get a working system, so your help with updating the pages would be greatly appreciated.   I am not a wiki admin, nor will I be, but I do want this to be a place of collaboration and not confrontation.  Please help us help others.

Thanks,
Rob

I'm sorry but the problem here is that I often link to these pages directly, which is completely useless if everybody keeps moving things around whenever they feel like it.  All this senseless reorganising over and over again is getting on my nerves.  The sad thing is that I can hardly even find the pages I added and categorized myself anymore these days.

And let's be honest, is "Troubleshooting_AVWizard" really that much better or clearer then "AVWizard"?  It is a general page about the AVWizard, not about troubleshooting isn't it?

Personally I think you're the sanest one of the bunch (which includes me) so if anyone should be the admin I think it's you.  I just wish you guys had focused more on expanding the existing structure instead of removing and reorganising over and over just for the sake of it. 

So I'm just going to leave the wiki alone and hope that I can still find the (far from perfect) instructions (which I added myself) the next time I want to redo the setup in my own home.

Title: Re: How to rerun the AVWizard
Post by: totallymaxed on September 29, 2007, 07:14:32 pm
Come on man, can we let this wiki thing rest.  You were shit on and the rant the Trout put on the wiki page was classless and stupid, we can all see that, but there are a few of us actually trying to improve the wiki so that many of these repeat questions can be easily found and people can trouble shoot their  problems.  Hopefully this will help you work on several of the things on your to do list and let you stop answering the same questions over and over again. 

No body is going to even look at the wiki for info if one of the most common posters on this forum keeps degrading it. 

It is obvious to me that you are serious about helping others get a working system, so your help with updating the pages would be greatly appreciated.   I am not a wiki admin, nor will I be, but I do want this to be a place of collaboration and not confrontation.  Please help us help others.

Thanks,
Rob

I'm sorry but the problem here is that I often link to these pages directly, which is completely useless if everybody keeps moving things around whenever they feel like it.  All this senseless reorganising over and over again is getting on my nerves.  The sad thing is that I can hardly even find the pages I added and categorized myself anymore these days.

And let's be honest, is "Troubleshooting_AVWizard" really that much better or clearer then "AVWizard"?  It is a general page about the AVWizard, not about troubleshooting isn't it?

Personally I think you're the sanest one of the bunch (which includes me) so if anyone should be the admin I think it's you.  I just wish you guys had focused more on expanding the existing structure instead of removing and reorganising over and over just for the sake of it. 

So I'm just going to leave the wiki alone and hope that I can still find the (far from perfect) instructions (which I added myself) the next time I want to redo the setup in my own home.



Zaerc - I totally agree. The constant changes are incredibly frustrating and to be honest mostly add zero value. Unless an addition to the Wiki is by someone who is 'defacing' the site or is plain incorrect then it should be left alone in my opinion. Lets get back to adding information and value to the Wiki as a resource - it doesn't need 'editors' it needs more people like you Zaerc putting their time, effort and knowledge into it.