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Title: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: colinjones on August 29, 2007, 09:54:05 pm
Just bumping this question...

I am looking for a motherboard that is known as compatible, with decent integrated NVIDIA chipset (or something else that will support full UI2), that has an HDMI output.

Has anyone any experience that can share??
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: colinjones on August 30, 2007, 04:59:51 pm
How about this one? Abit AN-M2HD Socket AM2 mATX Motherboard Nvidia Geforce7050PV - any experiences? Compatible?
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: colinjones on September 06, 2007, 01:45:50 am
Not really - but someone else started a topic talking about Abit motherboards with HDMI, and I am hoping for an answer on that one soon! I think this thread is stale, so do a search for that one with Abit and HDMI as search terms...

Col.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: tzinternet on September 06, 2007, 09:29:58 pm
will look around and just wait right a the moment then.   Thanks!
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: marrandy on September 12, 2007, 07:06:47 pm
This one looks promising ?

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2111
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: colinjones on September 12, 2007, 07:25:34 pm
Next question is, do the video drivers work with LMCE and has anybody tried the board overall for compatibility???
Title: i actually ordered that abit mobo last week
Post by: elboy0712 on September 16, 2007, 11:24:21 am
should arrive this week i will let you know when it gets here if i have any issues
Title: ok motherboard arrived but seems to be faulty ... tested with known good
Post by: elboy0712 on September 27, 2007, 07:12:34 pm
components and its continues with the whole rebooting over and over when i try to load the OS have tried many things.... trying to contact eaglebit to get a replacement.... someone else on here had one that he got going though .... want to say it was fuzor..... not sure though will look
Title: kybber has one check this
Post by: elboy0712 on September 27, 2007, 07:29:08 pm
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=2036.0ftp://
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: RDAC on September 28, 2007, 10:03:48 pm
Oh man, I'm sorry. I heard horrible things about that Biostar board....supposedly they rushed it to market to try to beat Abit to the punch, and it's got all sorts of weird problems. One can only hope it's not design-related and that a bios update will iron them out eventually.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: ariznaf on October 18, 2007, 09:44:27 pm
Gigabyte has some too (see http://www.giga-byte.es/products/mb/specs/ga-ma69g-s3h_10.html) the problem is that all MB with hdmi i could find where not able of displaying 1080p video (just 768) as they have graphics chipsets that don't support full HD (are just HD ready).
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: totallymaxed on November 10, 2007, 05:40:13 pm
Just bumping this question...

I am looking for a motherboard that is known as compatible, with decent integrated NVIDIA chipset (or something else that will support full UI2), that has an HDMI output.

Has anyone any experience that can share??

Hi Colin,

We are testing the MSI MS-7329 motherboard (see link to manual below) this has on-board 6150 graphics and an HDMI port;

http://217.110.237.67/Manuals/7329-engl%20v1.0%20-%20MS-7329%20(G52-73291X1).pdf

We're running this board at 720p over component & HDMI and it performs beautifully. The board supports 1080p too but we have not tested that yet... will give feedback when we do ;-)

We've tested it with UI2 + Overlay and it works great... but I don't think we've tested UI2 + transparency. I'll take a look at that on Monday and post an update here then.

Andrew
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: Matthew on November 21, 2007, 09:54:32 pm
We are testing the MSI MS-7329 motherboard (see link to manual below) this has on-board 6150 graphics and an HDMI port;

http://217.110.237.67/Manuals/7329-engl%20v1.0%20-%20MS-7329%20(G52-73291X1).pdf

We're running this board at 720p over component & HDMI and it performs beautifully. The board supports 1080p too but we have not tested that yet... will give feedback when we do ;-)

We've tested it with UI2 + Overlay and it works great... but I don't think we've tested UI2 + transparency. I'll take a look at that on Monday and post an update here then.
Any results on 1080p HDMI?

How about the other model, MSI K9AGM2-FIH (http://www.google.com/products?q=MSI+K9AGM2-FIH&btnG=Search&show=dd&scoring=p) that lacks the RCA outputs, but has HDMI and 5.1 analog/SPDIF for only about $50-65?
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: 1audio on November 21, 2007, 10:27:07 pm
The MSI K9AGM2-FIH uses an AMD ATI chipset so you are at the mercy of the ATI Linux drivers. LMCE uses all of the most advanced (and difficult/buggy/ hard to implement) features of the graphics interface. And only Nvidia has support for them today, just barely above experimental status. There has been lots of discussion about ATI, and Intel drivers but support for compositing and opengl isn't what it is for nvidia yet. As soon as it is available on something else and it works better we will all move.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: tkmedia on November 21, 2007, 10:48:15 pm
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=BA24125 (http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=BA24125)
Just ordered this one won't be here till next week hopefully we'll have 0710 to install it. ;D






Tim
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: Matthew on November 22, 2007, 04:11:44 am
OK, how about the MSI K9NGM3-FIH, which uses nVidia GeForce7150? Starting at $80 (http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=hdmi&group1=2&sci=2&c=Motherboards). Or the $95 eVGA 112-CK-NF77-A1, GeForce 7150, or $96 eVGA 112-CK-NF77-A1, GeForce 7100?
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: 1audio on November 22, 2007, 04:47:41 am
The 7050 requires the new drivers which are still buggy and unstable. Life just isn't easy for Linux users.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: totallymaxed on November 23, 2007, 02:22:03 pm
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=BA24125 (http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=BA24125)
Just ordered this one won't be here till next week hopefully we'll have 0710 to install it. ;D

Tim

Well I am not sure that 7050 support is still that stable... let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: rmwlaw on November 23, 2007, 04:09:52 pm
Hi Colin,

We are testing the MSI MS-7329 motherboard (see link to manual below) this has on-board 6150 graphics and an HDMI port;

http://217.110.237.67/Manuals/7329-engl%20v1.0%20-%20MS-7329%20(G52-73291X1).pdf

We're running this board at 720p over component & HDMI and it performs beautifully. The board supports 1080p too but we have not tested that yet... will give feedback when we do ;-)

We've tested it with UI2 + Overlay and it works great... but I don't think we've tested UI2 + transparency. I'll take a look at that on Monday and post an update here then.

Andrew

Have you had an opportunity to test it with UI2 + transparency yet? If so, any success?

Just curious as I (and sure others) were waiting for your next post.

rmwlaw
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: colinjones on November 23, 2007, 08:40:45 pm
Agreed, totallymaxed, any updates?  :) especially on the 1080p and alphablending...
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: hoboghost on November 27, 2007, 07:46:41 am
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=BA24125 (http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=BA24125)
Just ordered this one won't be here till next week hopefully we'll have 0710 to install it. ;D

Tim

Well I am not sure that 7050 support is still that stable... let us know how you get on.

I also got the Abit AN-M2HD--came in the mail today.  I'm sad to hear that there are problems with 7050--I am a newb trying out Linux and LinuxMCE and I thought I'd be fine as long as i stuck with nvida chipsets and nvidia onboard graphics.  :-\ I hope it all works.

Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: totallymaxed on November 27, 2007, 10:43:43 am
Hi Colin,

We are testing the MSI MS-7329 motherboard (see link to manual below) this has on-board 6150 graphics and an HDMI port;

http://217.110.237.67/Manuals/7329-engl%20v1.0%20-%20MS-7329%20(G52-73291X1).pdf

We're running this board at 720p over component & HDMI and it performs beautifully. The board supports 1080p too but we have not tested that yet... will give feedback when we do ;-)

We've tested it with UI2 + Overlay and it works great... but I don't think we've tested UI2 + transparency. I'll take a look at that on Monday and post an update here then.

Andrew

Have you had an opportunity to test it with UI2 + transparency yet? If so, any success?

Just curious as I (and sure others) were waiting for your next post.

rmwlaw

Oops!.. Sorry I will run a test myself with UI2 + Alphablending turned on later this morning and provide some feedback.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: totallymaxed on November 27, 2007, 01:32:59 pm
Hi Colin,

We are testing the MSI MS-7329 motherboard (see link to manual below) this has on-board 6150 graphics and an HDMI port;

http://217.110.237.67/Manuals/7329-engl%20v1.0%20-%20MS-7329%20(G52-73291X1).pdf

We're running this board at 720p over component & HDMI and it performs beautifully. The board supports 1080p too but we have not tested that yet... will give feedback when we do ;-)

We've tested it with UI2 + Overlay and it works great... but I don't think we've tested UI2 + transparency. I'll take a look at that on Monday and post an update here then.

Andrew

Have you had an opportunity to test it with UI2 + transparency yet? If so, any success?

Just curious as I (and sure others) were waiting for your next post.

rmwlaw

Ok I have taken some time to do some tests this morning and I can confirm that the MSI MS-7329 MB supports UI2 + Overlay & UI2 + Alpha blending using the standard lmce-0704 nVidia drivers at 720p over Component & HDMI (I did not have a 1080p screens at hand to test that resolution against).

Performance is inline with all nVidia graphics hardware we have tested todate in that with UI2 + Alpha Blending selected we see a very slight amount of 'tearing' in the video when there is medium to fast horizontal motion of the camera. I personally find this quite distracting when watching TV/DVD's. Setting UI2 + Overlay removes this "tearing' completely and gives silky smooth video @ 720p.

Andrew
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: colinjones on November 27, 2007, 01:56:26 pm
Andrew - do you have any idea whether this tearing is due to drivers, or simply a performance thing? I'm assuming that a driver bug with the sync could be ironed out over time, whereas a performance issue is more likely to be with us to stay, unless there is a tuning issue in the driver??
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: totallymaxed on November 27, 2007, 02:36:56 pm
Andrew - do you have any idea whether this tearing is due to drivers, or simply a performance thing? I'm assuming that a driver bug with the sync could be ironed out over time, whereas a performance issue is more likely to be with us to stay, unless there is a tuning issue in the driver??

My thinking is that it is performance related and not a bug as such. I think running UI2 with Alpha Blending just means there is whole lot more computation going on and this stresses the hardware/driver to the point where it can't quite keep up and the "tearing" occurs because whole video frames cannot be draw into the video buffer fast enough. I might be wrong... but it seems like a logical possibility especially since turning Alpha Blending off fixes it 100%.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: colinjones on November 27, 2007, 09:39:17 pm
Do we know whether one of the higher chipsets have the extra grunt? Sounds like only a marginal thing... I haven't looked at the specs, but I'm presuming there are pretty significant performance capability differences between the various members of the 6xxx, 7xxx and 8xxx series. If this is happening on the 6.....
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: tkmedia on November 28, 2007, 06:52:04 am
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=2719.msg16953#msg16953 (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=2719.msg16953#msg16953)

It seems to have the same problem with the 7050
see my above post. :(
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: totallymaxed on November 28, 2007, 11:32:22 am
Do we know whether one of the higher chipsets have the extra grunt? Sounds like only a marginal thing... I haven't looked at the specs, but I'm presuming there are pretty significant performance capability differences between the various members of the 6xxx, 7xxx and 8xxx series. If this is happening on the 6.....

Over time we have tested pretty much all the nVidia cards and onboard chipsets... none could handle UI2 + Alpha Blending without suffering some tearing in video playback. I am sure this to do with the drivers still not delivering the full performance that the nVidia hardware is capable of.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: tzinternet on December 02, 2007, 05:34:35 am
Anymore updates on the MSI MS-7329?  Also, how easy was the MCE install and would it be a good board to user a both a core and MDE if you only had one machine?  Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: totallymaxed on December 02, 2007, 10:24:22 am
Anymore updates on the MSI MS-7329?  Also, how easy was the MCE install and would it be a good board to user a both a core and MDE if you only had one machine?  Thanks for your input.

The MS-7329 is on longterm test with us now and has proved to be very stable and reliable with an excellent set of features. We are mainly testing it as a Hybrid/Core, a role which it performs very well, and in tests it has supported 5 MD's quite happily.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: dadwkids on December 25, 2007, 07:09:05 pm
I was browsing for a MB and found this at newegg about a Biostar MB:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138061

one of reviewers said it was ubuntu compatible.  Not a thorough review but thought it was relevant to the thread.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: tkmedia on December 26, 2007, 07:59:18 am
I have very good luck with abit AN-M2HD so far I have been running 0704 and now beta 2 0710.
I have two now 1 as Hybrid/Core and another as MD seem very stable so far.

Still early in 0710 testing
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: DTS on December 26, 2007, 12:51:28 pm
I have very good luck with abit AN-M2HD so far I have been running 0704 and now beta 2 0710.
I have two now 1 as Hybrid/Core and another as MD seem very stable so far.

Still early in 0710 testing

Have you tried playing HD materials on this board?
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: tkmedia on December 27, 2007, 04:19:16 am
I have very good luck with abit AN-M2HD so far I have been running 0704 and now beta 2 0710.
I have two now 1 as Hybrid/Core and another as MD seem very stable so far.

Still early in 0710 testing

Have you tried playing HD materials on this board?

Just what I can get from my hd homerun currently only have a 720 P to test it on (looks good so far)
UI3 is fine and no more tearing like in 0704
Video drivers worked from start.
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: junior1 on January 03, 2008, 09:48:21 pm
Im just trying to follow this thread and came up with a couple of questions:

1.  What specifically does it mean when you say "tearing" (does it relate to the image quality and if so, what do you see if the image is "tearing"?)

2.  I'm looking to build my own HTPC and was curious what a "Hybrid/Core" is or what it means? 

3.  I would imagine that when I build my HTPC, I would want it to be 1080P/HDMI capable...  Right???  Isn't that the best quality picture qualtity? 

I'm sure I will have more questions later, just trying to stay in the loop.  How in the world did all of you get so smart about all this stuff, Ive read a little and it seems that everything I read goes right over my head...  Im very excited about trying this, but Linux and LMCE is kicking my butt... 

Thanks
Junior
Title: Re: Motherboard with HDMI?
Post by: Matthew on January 03, 2008, 10:10:21 pm
Im just trying to follow this thread and came up with a couple of questions:

1.  What specifically does it mean when you say "tearing" (does it relate to the image quality and if so, what do you see if the image is "tearing"?)

2.  I'm looking to build my own HTPC and was curious what a "Hybrid/Core" is or what it means? 

3.  I would imagine that when I build my HTPC, I would want it to be 1080P/HDMI capable...  Right???  Isn't that the best quality picture qualtity? 

I'm sure I will have more questions later, just trying to stay in the loop.  How in the world did all of you get so smart about all this stuff, Ive read a little and it seems that everything I read goes right over my head...  Im very excited about trying this, but Linux and LMCE is kicking my butt... 

You should do some research first. If you just used Wikipedia, you'd know about tearing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tearing). The LMCE wiki would tell you about hybrid/Core (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=hybrid%2Fcore&go=Go). Where the wiki isn't detailed or current, you can search the forums (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?action=search).

Just take a little time. Soon enough you'll be explaining it to someone else :).