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Title: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 08:25:55 am
Ok first time user of linuxmce. Installed 8.10 everything looks great and I even got some of my x10 things working. Problem is with media director. Gone through all the links on the internet I could find with no luck. Heres my setup, Ethernet cable from my cable modem to my core/ media director, another ethernet cable from my core/ media director to a netgear wireless router where everything else in my house hooks to. When I try to netboot my acer revo it never connects? I have tried to run the /usr/pluto/bin/Diskless_CreateTBZ.sh because I thought thats what was wrong but still nothing. Nothing ever pops up on my core saying something new was detected not even a usb drive with music on it? I figure I must be missing something major in my install or something?  ???
 
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: _if_ on November 14, 2010, 08:32:57 am
is dhcp activated? what ip-adress is assigned for internal network? does internet work?
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 08:37:53 am
yes dhcp is active, ip 192.168.80.1, internet as in browsing youtube channel and such yes that works
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: _if_ on November 14, 2010, 09:33:46 am
hmm sounds alright...

So you try to PXE boot but it can't find any ip to connect with? Any failure messages?

sorry, can't help a lot...
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: bongowongo on November 14, 2010, 11:39:35 am
USB drives with music are not best practice.
Try to insert a music CD, and you will see something will pop up on your screen.
Also you should try to copy a lot of files through the network. go to \\192.168.80.1 and put the files in the appropriate folders.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: b4rney on November 14, 2010, 12:15:29 pm
Is your netgear router running dhcp? If so maybe it is conflicting with the core.

It is necessary to run /usr/pluto/bin/Diskless_CreateTBZ.sh once to get your mds working. This takes a long time.

Barney
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: bongowongo on November 14, 2010, 12:30:07 pm
Is your netgear router running dhcp? If so maybe it is conflicting with the core.

It is necessary to run /usr/pluto/bin/Diskless_CreateTBZ.sh once to get your mds working. This takes a long time.

Barney
Also make sure sources.list is correct, otherwise problems may occur.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: willow3 on November 14, 2010, 01:21:04 pm
Some things that can go wrong (if you didn't do it already):

As I understand your description, your router is hooked up inside the linuxmce subnet (Otherwise disregard my answer).

- Turn off DHCP on your router
- Do not use WAN/Internet port on router, only LAN ports
- Set the ip address of the router to something in MCE subnet address space (i.e 192.168.80.NNN)
- Remove the routers ip address from the MCE DHCP address space to avoid conflict. This is done in the MCE web admin.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: b4rney on November 14, 2010, 01:39:06 pm
Agree with bongowongo about the sources.list.

Change all references to 'archive' or 'security' to 'old-releases' AND remove any local references (e.g. gb.archive.ubuntu.com becomes old-releases.ubuntu.com).

Then rerun /usr/pluto/bin/Diskless_CreateTBZ.sh.
Hope this helps
Barney
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 03:41:39 pm
Thanks for all the replies so far everyone I will try some of the suggestions, the image I used I downloaded around oct 28 not sure if that makes a difference? Is this something common to always have to do during a first setup, as far as changing the places where the updates come from? Or does it usually just work from the get go on it's own? As far as the /usr/pluto/bin/Diskless_CreateTBZ.sh goes I have tried several times only to get the wait 10sec message repeatedly.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 03:51:38 pm
OK so how do I pull up the sources list to adjust them if they are incorrect?
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: rperre on November 14, 2010, 04:03:55 pm
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

Also look at this post, there is an example of somebody's sources.list that is working.
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=10917.msg75673#msg75673

Richard
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 04:31:13 pm
ok went and adjusted the source list just getting permission denied and operation not permitted along with the same package failed, gonna have to reread what I changed.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: bongowongo on November 14, 2010, 04:37:05 pm
are sure you did sudo
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 04:50:45 pm
forgot the first time, got the downloads to go when I remembered to do sudo, now after it doing it's thing for a bit i get package pluto orbiter failed wait 10 sec try again? seemed like it was clipping along fine then got snagged there. From what I can tell some kind of error to do with sun java? If that helps any.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 08:18:48 pm
ok got updates to go through also did the /usr/pluto/bin/Diskless_CreateTBZ.sh, which took a good bit of time to do. Once that was finished I restarted the core. Then once back up and running I turned my director in the new room on but still getting the same message where it could not find or connect to dhcp?

Maybe my cables are not hooked up correctly? Once again my main internet line comes from my cable modem to the core, then a line runs from the core to my netgear wireless router to the internet port on the router, then all the other computers in the house hook up to the router the way they would in a normal situation. On my linuxmce core I set it up as dhcp, on my netgear router I tried disabling and enabling dhcp neither did anything. On my admin page for lmce network settings eth0 = external, eth1 = internal.

Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: b4rney on November 14, 2010, 09:24:40 pm
Maybe my cables are not hooked up correctly? Once again my main internet line comes from my cable modem to the core, then a line runs from the core to my netgear wireless router to the internet port on the router, then all the other computers in the house hook up to the router the way they would in a normal situation.

You are basically using the netgear router as a switch, correct? You don't need to use the 'internet' port on the router at all. Just use the regular ethernet inputs, one would be from the core and the rest for your internal network.

Barney
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 14, 2010, 11:31:08 pm
ok got it fixed the proper way, now all my other computers in the house are working mce core is functioning, new media director was recognized and began downloading image to it. On the new media director I saw the kubuntu splash screen then it went to a flashing cursor dot which is where i am at now. I heard these can take a long time to set up so I will leave it sit for a while. Many many thanks to everyones help it has saved me from going bonkers. And many many thanks to the people who created and continue to invest their time into Linuxmce as it is a wonderful and amazing piece of equipment. What can I say I'm hooked. I am sure I will have many more questions in the future and perhaps along the way I can help someone else out to....
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: bongowongo on November 14, 2010, 11:46:43 pm
Ok but what was your fault?
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 15, 2010, 12:01:41 am
Might have been that bowl of stupid I had for breakfast!!!! ;D On a lighter note I had the cables hooked up wrong and couldn't get the media director to access the core. Once I re did the cables internet from the cable modem into the router then all devices and the core hooked to the router letting the netgear do it's normal thing, everything popped up and was recognized. As far as the software updates for the core went I added:

deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse

deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse

then did the update and then installed the image and everything started working from there on out so far
I do have some issues still, as I can no longer log into the admin page from the computer I am typing this on, once again from the core i can log in and internet works from the core as in weather & youtube. And I am still waiting on the media director to boot all the way up, i do get a kubuntu screen then it goes to a flashing dot so i was playing it safe and just letting it be for a bit.

***Update****

Guess I didn't quite get it yet, as the media director won't boot up fully, getting a kernal panic and with the admin page not functioning on remote pc's something must still be amiss, has to be the cableing right?
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 15, 2010, 07:50:10 am
Cableing issue taken care of media director showing up in dhcp leases as moon 40. But whenever I try to net boot I get it to load up to the kubuntu bar and then it goes to a blinking white cursor? I have been chasing this thing all day now and am running out of ideas.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: esev on November 15, 2010, 06:53:50 pm
Cableing issue taken care of media director showing up in dhcp leases as moon 40. But whenever I try to net boot I get it to load up to the kubuntu bar and then it goes to a blinking white cursor? I have been chasing this thing all day now and am running out of ideas.

I don't have a Revo so I don't think I can help too much, but... Does your Acer Revo have a wireless card?  If so, check out the wiki page for instructions on disabling it (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_Revo_1600).
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 15, 2010, 08:00:03 pm
Nope just the R1600, no wireless. I have seen some of the threads that deal with the revo's but being a noob if the directions aren't layed out simple I fear I'll screw it up. And most of those threads deal with wireless which isn't my problem, it is weird though.
#   IP Address   MAC Address   Expires   Status   Hostname   Description   Device
0   192.168.80.2   90:FB:A6:2D:DB:61   --   static   moon50   Generic PC as MD   50
1         --   static      DCERouter   2
2         --   static      DCERouter   2
3         --   static      DCERouter   2
4         --   static      DCERouter   2

Thats what my dhcp lease lists so I am pretty sure the revo is detected just must be something on the revo's end just not sure how to troubleshoot it?
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: esev on November 15, 2010, 08:25:45 pm
Which kubuntu bar are you getting?  The one that moves back and forth across the screen, or the one that moves from left to right?  If it's the former I'd say this is a kernel issue and maybe it is not properly connecting back to the core correctly after initially downloading the kernel.

Try this...  In a terminal window type:
  ls /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/

You should see a file named after the MAC address of your MD.  Edit that file
  sudo nano /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/<mac_address>

Inside the file you'll see a line that looks like this:
APPEND initrd=50/initrd.img ramdisk=10240 rw root=/dev/nfs boot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.80.1:/usr/pluto/diskless/50 quiet splash

Modify that line by removing the quiet and splash from the end.  This will turn off the splash screen and let you see any errors coming from the kernel.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 15, 2010, 09:07:07 pm
Ok after removing the quiet splash and rebooting the md I end up with a prompt saying network is unreachable after a whole bunch of other information.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: esev on November 15, 2010, 09:24:47 pm
Ok after removing the quiet splash and rebooting the md I end up with a prompt saying network is unreachable after a whole bunch of other information.

I should have warned you about information overload on those screens.  :D Could you provide us with the exact error you are getting?  Or maybe upload a picture of the error screen with enough detail so we can read the error?
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: b4rney on November 15, 2010, 09:29:52 pm
Nope just the R1600, no wireless.

Are you sure the revo doesn't have a wireless card installed? Many do. This is a known hardware problem and you have to blacklist the device as described in the wiki.
Barney
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 15, 2010, 10:27:22 pm
No wifi built in I bought the cheaper model when I bought it, double checked the product card to make sure and nothing listed for wifi so unless it's buried in there and I havn't noticed yet!!! Model #AR1600-U910H. Included a snapshot of the screen where it ends with the flashing cursor and prompt.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: b4rney on November 15, 2010, 11:39:04 pm
That ip address is not on the internal network. Double check your cabling.

The cable modem should only be attached to your core. You still appear to have networking issues.
Barney
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 15, 2010, 11:47:41 pm
Ok I can switch it back around, the only reason I had it that way was when I was troubleshooting everytime I reset the core I lost all internet connections on my other computers and was annoying the wifey!!! Makes sense that overlooking that might be the cause of the problem and the solution might have been in front of my face.  Fingers crossed this is the simple fix I will let you know soon...
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 16, 2010, 01:51:46 am
Ok  ;D ;D ;D I am a happy person now!!! Got it all working, I had a bad ethernet switch this whole time so I re did all the lines and viola. Here's how I set everything up. Ran the main internet line from my cable provider to a router the way you would normally hook it up, then I hooked up all my other computers in the house up to that router, ran a line from that router to my core then the other line from my core to an old wireless router I had{not to the internet port} then basiclly used that router as a switch disabling the onboard dhcp from the routers menu. Then I hooked my media director cable to that router and everything booted up and setup great, even got audio over hdmi with no hassles what so ever. Only thing I have left to troubleshoot now that everything else works is when I select play on a movie on my media director I only get sound no video? The flicker images and all the menus ahow up fine just no video.
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: b4rney on November 16, 2010, 11:46:34 pm
Glad you got it sorted.

I had a revo 1600 which struggled with 1080p (even with vdpau enabled) so I knocked it down to 720p and it works great.
Hope this helps.
Barney
Title: Re: Rookie in need of some help
Post by: jaynkeel on November 17, 2010, 12:14:04 am
Thanks yes I am overjoyed to say the least. Once again many thanks to the creators of lmce and the knowledgeable people that are out there that help others. Yep got a great picture and sound out of the revo like  I said just have to iron out some small bugs. Heck I even got my eken m002 working as an orbiter with no problems. I am very satisfied after playing around with the system and the more you follow directions the easier it is to use, lesson learned- just let the system do what it was designed to do and your problems will be minimal.