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Title: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: attunezero on November 06, 2010, 03:22:07 pm
Tried to install off of the latest snapshot (23388) and the installer fails due to missing packages in the old-releases ubuntu archive. I installed kubuntu as normal from the dvd and updated my sources.list to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com (instead of archive.ubuntu.com or security.ubuntu.com). It seems that many .deb files are missing from the old-releases mirror as even installing basic packages like emacs results in a 404 error when trying to download the package file.

The relevant installer output is as follows

Code: [Select]
Get:1 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/multiverse sun-java6-jre 6-14-0ubuntu1.8.10 [6421kB]
Err http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/multiverse sun-java6-bin 6-14-0ubuntu1.8.10          
  404 Not Found                                                                                          
Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java6/sun-java6-bin_6-14-0ubuntu1.8.10_i386.deb  404 Not Found
Fetched 6421kB in 14s (444kB/s)                                                                                                          
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?                                                    
An error (Exit code 100) occured during the last action                                                                                  
pluto-dcerouter                                                                                                                          
Running post-install.sh                                                                                                                  
post-install.sh: line 2: /usr/pluto/bin/nvidia-install.sh: No such file or directory                        

Not really sure what to do about this. Are there any alternative 8.10 mirrors that might be complete?
Attached are my sources.list and (truncated) install output
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: etNHGfU8 on November 06, 2010, 05:10:08 pm
I had the same issue recently for libtcltk-ruby1.8 (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=10903.0). I determined that universe for both intrepid-updates and intrepid-security referenced a non-existent file. My work around was to remove universe from both lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do the install at which point an older version of the libtcltk-ruby1.8 package was successfully installed.

I posted a message on ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1614965) looking for information on how to resolve the issue.

- Tom
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: attunezero on November 08, 2010, 12:09:48 am
Changed archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com and commented out entries for universe, multiverse and security. This allowed me to install successfully, but some packages (like emacs) still don't install and plugging in my GC100 results in a popup during the pnp configuration stating "failed to install socat"... I'm guessing that this is probably because I no longer have universe/multiverse but I am not sure what logfile to look in to confirm.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: tschak909 on November 08, 2010, 02:55:54 am
 /var/log/pluto/ConfirmDependencies.log may be able to help you.

-Thom
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: ryansgt on November 08, 2010, 05:58:04 pm
Could you post your new sources.list file that worked.  coming from a new install i basically can't get anything.

Changed archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com and commented out entries for universe, multiverse and security. This allowed me to install successfully, but some packages (like emacs) still don't install and plugging in my GC100 results in a popup during the pnp configuration stating "failed to install socat"... I'm guessing that this is probably because I no longer have universe/multiverse but I am not sure what logfile to look in to confirm.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: attunezero on November 09, 2010, 12:48:41 am
Could you post your new sources.list file that worked.  coming from a new install i basically can't get anything.

Unfortunately the sources.list that I used to install has been written over. To get the installer to work I modified my sources.list and changed all references from "us.archive.ubuntu.com" into "old-releases.ubuntu.com". I then commented out all of the lines containing "universe", "multiverse" or "security".


/var/log/pluto/ConfirmDependencies.log may be able to help you.

-Thom


I got the gc100 to install correctly including socat by re-adding a reference to old-releases.ubuntu.com universe. ConfirmDependencies.log only said "01 Error processing package socat" -- is there a way to turn up the logging verbosity globally to help debug?

Also -- My sources.list that I used to install appears to have been written over. Along with this, another reference has been added to archive.ubuntu.com which results in a 404. I believe the ConfirmDependencies program does this (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Confirmdependencies) but I have not had time to dive into the code to verify where the old references are coming from.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: phenigma on November 09, 2010, 01:03:03 am
The old references are indeed being added by ConfirmDependecies... It relies on information from the Package* tables in the pluto_main database to know where to source all the packages from and automatically add the repository locations if they are not in the sources.list.  It's a great system, until the repository moves en mass.  To fix this it would have to be updated for all packages in the database that are sourced from intrepid.  It's more or less a search and replace on a few select fields in the database and then a massive sqlCVS update to apply the changes.  I'm not sure that this is likely to happen.  Any references to 20dev_ubuntu in sources.list are also being added by ConfirmDependencies based on repository information in the database.

This is all normal behaviour but the database is populated with incorrect data at this point.

J.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: willow3 on November 09, 2010, 03:41:14 pm
It sounds like you guys have a pretty good picture about whats wrong. It seems like the ticket http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/887 (http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/ticket/887) misses some of the info above?

regards
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: phenigma on November 09, 2010, 11:31:20 pm
No the ticket does not mention any of this, nor does it mention makedvd (the creation script for the dvd installer) and Diskless_CreateTBZ, both of which will be affected in some way.

J.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: etNHGfU8 on November 10, 2010, 12:17:14 pm
My posting to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1614965 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1614965) seems to fallen on deaf ears so I tried another approach by posting a defect against the apt package (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/673446 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/673446)).

The package data on old-releases.ubuntu.com is inconsistent with the files on the server and needs to be rectified.

I'll let you know if any progress is made.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: dextaslab on November 13, 2010, 03:29:19 am
I've been searching and you maybe able to use these until it's fixed:

deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports  main restricted universe multiverse

Cheers
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on November 13, 2010, 06:57:56 am
Thx  That worked for me.  Everything including mythtv installed without a failure.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: toppot on November 13, 2010, 08:40:14 am
Could somebody please come with a "cookbook" for installing latest snapshot (23388, 23426 or 23431)?

I have tried all, updated the sources list - but haven't manage even seeing the A/V wizard!

The install process differs quite a lot from 23388 to 23431 - so info on which order to do which steps in which snapshot to get the best result would be much appreciated.

Am not a total noob (be working with CentOS/Red Hat for 10+ years. And even at some point (probably 0710) tested LMCE...


-Toppot
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: kilo on November 13, 2010, 09:29:12 am
Are these the only repositories you used in your sources.list file?

Thanks

Kilo ???
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: chrysemys on November 13, 2010, 12:26:27 pm
GREAT THANKS to dextaslab for locating a remaining Repo.

Would be nice if the developers could switch to the lates version with LTS.

(With a three year waiting period for every next "stable" Debian de-facto has also proven to be a  release, but I guess that 's a closed discussion)
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: jalcando on November 13, 2010, 02:20:04 pm
chrysemys, I think you have to take into account that this linuxMCE product seems to be developped by a very small community and that this product is free.
It is also open-source so you can go along with the community to help to switch to the latest version with LTS.
I say that because I understand your comment in parenthesis as a complain (I am not english mother tongue)
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: magner on November 13, 2010, 02:55:31 pm
Ho,

I deleted all the script in my sources file and replaced it with the deb paths below then ran dist-upgrade

deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports  main restricted universe multiverse

The intrepid-backports/main files were the only files to download.

With the other files i get either...

Err http://fastspeedtest.net intrepid-security/main libthai-data 0.1.9-4ubuntu0.8.10.2                                                                                             
  Could not resolve ‘fastspeedtest.net’     

or

Failed to fetch http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb53_1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-3ubuntu0.4_i386.deb  Could not resolve ‘fastspeedtest.net’   

No more 404 problems...hey...

but now moved onto another problem equally as frustrating... Does anybody have any idea what I may be doing wrong.

cheers

Dan
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: kotchere on November 13, 2010, 05:23:19 pm
GREAT THANKS to dextaslab for locating a remaining Repo.

Kilo, I used the repo given by dextaslab and hashed out the links with ubuntu.com.  I also left in the repo to the linuxmce and medibuntu.  Basically the last section of the source list.

It downloaded a lot more than usual, but must say I finally got it working.

Thanks once again.

PS..I used the snapshot created on the 11th Nov.  Good luck folks.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: kilo on November 13, 2010, 05:33:18 pm
Yeah thats the one Im installing now on my virtual box on my mac since it has HD 1080P
Ill give my results as soon as I can so that it may help others.....

Later

Kilo
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on November 13, 2010, 06:36:47 pm
These threads need to be unified.  There are several that talk about the same thing.  The following is what I did for a successful install(as far as I can tell).

I downloaded an earlier snapshot.  After reading a post about how the snapshots were made I decided to use one that was created before end of life.  The snapshot I installed was 23324.  I would hazard a guess, unless you like frustration, steer away from snapshots that are less than 3.8GB.  Less than that then there are a lot of files that will need to be installed from the repositories that may not be there.  Using an earlier snapshot will also ensure the latest nvidia driver is installed.

Next, after reading another post about finding alternate repositories, I expanded on my sources.list file. 

deb file:/usr/pluto/deb-cache/ ./
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ intrepid  beta2
deb http://debian.slimdevices.com/ stable  main
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid  free non-free
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ 20dev_ubuntu  main

deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://fastspeedtest.net/mirrors/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse

deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.k-net.ru/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse

This may be overkill.  I know that an apt-get update took a lot longer and a dist-upgrade sucked in a lot more files but when I installed lmce I did not see any errors.

I did not use the script on the desktop to start lmce installation.  Instead I opted to sudio su in a terminal and go to the /root/new-installer directory and run the individual script files.  pre-install-from-repo.sh, mce-install.sh, and post-install.sh in that order.  I would be curious to see if the script on the desktop would work properly now since more files are being found for the installation.

Once this completed I rebooted then configured the avwizrd and then the setup wizard. Once completed mythtv seemed to be installed properly.  The only other thing I noticed that was not right was my pvr150 was not detected and waiting for me to configure in the setup wizard.  I was able to configure it in mythsetup from the computing link.  The pvr150 worked.  I installed and tested successfully an hvr1950 usb tuner/encoder.

I hope the above helps.  Please read through carefully.  In proof reading I found several typos and I probably missed some.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: Henrique.loureiro on November 14, 2010, 01:28:19 am
Hello friends.
Does anybody try to update the hole Kubunto to a new version? I put Kubunto to update to the last version 10.10. After the update I open a terminal windows and start the LinuxMCE install by a sudo command.
The LinuxMCE completed install and run the A/V wizard.
After the A/V wizard the LinuxMCE continuous the installation and get the initial video with the girl. The problem is that this video began to run in loop and I can't stop? (just a white backgrund and the video running in loop..)
Does someone can help?
Thanks
Henrique Loureiro
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on November 14, 2010, 03:36:08 am
No.  I believe that the binaries are specific to the version of kubuntu that is presently used.  Also, see follow this link to the end of the thread to see what is being done now by the developers.

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=10929.0 (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=10929.0)
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: etNHGfU8 on November 17, 2010, 12:02:43 am
I believe that the old-releases.ubuntu.com repository is now back to a consistent state. I was able to do an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade successfully using old-releases.ubuntu.com.

Per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/673446 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/673446)

Quote
LaMont Jones wrote 2 hours ago:    #2

This was actually an issue with the archive at old-releases.ubuntu.com, which has been fixed.
Changed in apt (Ubuntu):
assignee:    nobody → LaMont Jones (lamont)
status:    Confirmed → Invalid
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: bushtech on November 17, 2010, 08:17:02 am
I'm using mythtified's sources.list. Thanks mythtified.

Running sudo apt-get update I get one error:

GPG error: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com

Can anybody help? Keep in mind that I'm a Linux wannabe so it could be something very simple or stupid.

Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on November 17, 2010, 12:19:42 pm
I don't believe that I ran into that but the post from etNHGfu8 could indicate that the original sources list could be used now.  I have not tried it yet to be sure though.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: etNHGfU8 on November 17, 2010, 01:22:54 pm
Here is my current /etc/apt/sources.list file:
Code: [Select]
deb file:/usr/pluto/deb-cache/ ./
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ intrepid  beta2
deb http://debian.slimdevices.com/ stable  main
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid  free non-free
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ 20dev_ubuntu  main

In addition to changing us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com, I chucked the lines containing archive.ubuntu.com.

Again, I was able to do an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade successfully using old-releases.ubuntu.com and there was no warnings or errors.

Code: [Select]
root@dcerouter:~# apt-get update
Ign file: ./ Release.gpg
Ign file: ./ Translation-en_US
Ign file: ./ Release
Ign file: ./ Packages
Ign http://debian.slimdevices.com stable Release.gpg
Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release.gpg
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid/free Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid/non-free Translation-en_US
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org intrepid Release.gpg
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org intrepid/beta2 Translation-en_US
Ign http://debian.slimdevices.com stable/main Translation-en_US
Get:1 http://debian.slimdevices.com stable Release [1645B]
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Translation-en_US
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release.gpg
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release.gpg
Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org 20dev_ubuntu Release.gpg
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org 20dev_ubuntu/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org intrepid Release
Ign http://debian.slimdevices.com stable/main Packages
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid Release
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release
Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid/free Packages
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org 20dev_ubuntu Release
Hit http://debian.slimdevices.com stable/main Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release
Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid/non-free Packages
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org intrepid/beta2 Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Sources
Ign http://deb.linuxmce.org 20dev_ubuntu/main Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/restricted Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/universe Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/multiverse Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/restricted Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/universe Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/multiverse Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main Packages
Hit http://deb.linuxmce.org intrepid/beta2 Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/universe Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/multiverse Packages
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/restricted Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/universe Sources
Hit http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/multiverse Sources
Hit http://deb.linuxmce.org 20dev_ubuntu/main Packages
Fetched 1B in 1s (1B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
root@dcerouter:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
root@dcerouter:~#

- Tom
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: rperre on November 17, 2010, 05:40:38 pm
I can confirm that the old-releases only will work now.

Richard
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on November 18, 2010, 02:00:52 pm
I can also confirm that.  The only thing out of the ordinary I am seeing now is my Hauppauge pvr 150 is not being configured during initial setup.  I have to go through Mythtv setup in the UI to do this.  This is not a big deal to me though.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: Capri82 on November 21, 2010, 12:01:58 pm
I've followed Mythtified's guide to a T and still not working ;(

same snapshot, sources.list file, apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade.

root@LinuxMediaCentre:~/new-installer# sh mce-install.sh
21 Nov 18:56:42 ntpdate[6065]: adjust time server 91.189.94.4 offset -0.002508 sec
./mce-install-common.sh: 8: function: not found
An error (Exit code 127) occured during the last action

root@LinuxMediaCentre:~/new-installer#

Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: Capri82 on November 21, 2010, 12:33:12 pm
I'm trying the desktop installer now
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on November 21, 2010, 05:42:10 pm
Could somebody please come with a "cookbook" for installing latest snapshot (23388, 23426 or 23431)?

I have tried all, updated the sources list - but haven't manage even seeing the A/V wizard!

The install process differs quite a lot from 23388 to 23431 - so info on which order to do which steps in which snapshot to get the best result would be much appreciated.

Am not a total noob (be working with CentOS/Red Hat for 10+ years. And even at some point (probably 0710) tested LinuxMCE...


-Toppot

Any recent snapshot with a file size of 3.8GB should work.  The old-repositories issue has been fixed.  I have done a successful install with 23388 and edit the sources.list with the old-repositories.  It could be that a newer snapshot could come out with the sources.list fixed but it should be visually verified.

I boot from the LMCE dvd and select the lmce installation at the bottom of the list.  I make the selections from the subsequent initial screens and let it install.  Once that has finished I edit my sources.list and replace any lines that have either us.archive, archive, or security to old-releases.  I also make sure that the 20dev_ubuntu main line is present.  I then save this and do a sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade installing anything that is found.  I make sure that the latest nvidia driver is activated.  I reboot the machine.  Once the machine is at the desktop I click the lmce installation link on the desktop, enter my password when prompted, and find something else to do until it tells me to reboot again.  This will bring me to the AV Wizard.  If you are not seeing the AV Wizard at this point then you may be connected to a graphics port that is not defaulted to in the install.  I believe that vga is the default connector for the AV Wizard.  If connected to the DVI connector then you may get the black screen that has been discussed on this forum and has a post that has been pinned.  You can either move you cable to the appropriate connector or follow the directions given in the other posts.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: nite_man on November 25, 2010, 01:11:05 pm
Why do not host Ubuntu 8.10 repositories on the LinuxMCE server? In that case, we won't have such problems.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: ghope5 on November 25, 2010, 08:25:35 pm
I consider myself even though I have been running 710 for 2 years , a newbe . Since I tried 810 version 23438 I have been fortunate in that the system booted to the Kumbuntu desktop.I tried to do the updates as directed in the forum apt-get update
was pretty much what every one else is getting lots of 404 errors  the apt-get dist-upgrade seemed to go fine. I then installed LinuxMce The setup went fine MythTv worked,I set up my analog tuner and the TV works. will some one please explain to This possibility very lucky to get this far old guy, how do I bring up the source list and edit it to get the old releases. it would be very helpful to do a step by step of this process if someone would be so kind .
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: huh on November 25, 2010, 08:59:37 pm
This is how I do it- YMMV:

Using the existing sources, install nano from a terminal (note, I couldn't install nano when the new sources file was added- this could be because not all of the sources were properly fixed at Ubuntu...).  I use a windows box and use putty to ssh into the core, else you can (IIRC) Alt+F4 (or any of the F's except for F7 & F8):

So, get a terminal, log into the core and either run sudo command before all of the below, or simply type "su" then your password at the prompt:

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apt-get install nano

Accept that it's going to install the file and take up whatever space it takes.

Next, make a backup of your current sources file- actually you're just renaming the current file to *.list.OLD, but it works as a backup:

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mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.OLD

Next copy in the new sources list from the above source into the new sources.list file:

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nano /etc/apt/sources.list

Nano will open and allow you type in the new sources.  If you do it on putty from a windows box, I've found that can simply right click the mouse and it acts as paste.  The first time I did this I didn't have the window open large enough so the end of the source lines ended with "$" rather than the rest of the link.  Just make sure that what you copy from above is the same as what get pasted into sources.list.  (Another option maybe to create the sources.list file somewhere else (e.g. from notepad) and get it to your core.  I would just use windows exporer, go to \\192.168.80.1 (or whatever you have as the ip address of your core), log in with your credentials as requested and copy the file to some directory on your core.  From there, you can get to a terminal, login as root (su or sudo) and move the file to the correct location ("mv sources.list /etc/apt/")

Here's the list again (I copied directly from mine because I'm can't find the pinned post):
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deb file:/usr/pluto/deb-cache/ ./
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ intrepid  beta2
deb http://debian.slimdevices.com/ stable  main
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid  free non-free
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ 20dev_ubuntu  main
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ replacements_debian  main

Then cntrl + x to exit nano- it will prompt you to save the file.  

There have been a number of posts about what to run as for updating and upgrading.  This is what I do and prepare to get twapted.

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apt-get update
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get upgrade

I run apt-get update twice- doesn't seem like the first time all sources are property searched for new files.  And I agree to install all of the packages when asked.

Please note that you have to do this on all of your MDs- the process is identical including install nano at the beginning before changing the sources file.  To do this, you need to know your MD's device numbers, I either use the web admin to look at the media directors, or from the terminal pull up the list of devices:

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cd /usr/pluto/diskless
ls

The numbers listed are the numbers you would use after moon.

For example I had "100", "51" and "74"

To log into the media director in my family room (just by chance I happen to know it is 100) I just ssh into it:

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ssh moon100

At the terminal then, just go though the above steps starting with "apt-get install nano"

After getting the packages (apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get update), exit from that MD to go back to the core to ssh into the next MD.  This is not a necessary step, but I don't like the idea of hoping from core -> Media Director -> Media Director -> Media Director to update the last one.  Would rather go Core -> MD1, exit, then Core -> MD2.

For the sake of clarity (and risk too much repetition) I would then log into the next MD:

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ssh moon51

This is how I do it...

FWIW


Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: ghope5 on November 26, 2010, 09:21:02 pm
Thank you "huh" I appreciate your how to do it. I hope this is not to dumb a question, but I don't know what to do with
the instruction ctrl+ v is this after I type in your code starting with deb file:/user/pluto/deb-cash .
Then you say to cntrl + x to exit nano, is this  a typo here. I have stopped after nano /etc/apt/sources.list.
My terminal is blank with a cursor at the top of the page, is this what I should see at this point. I would love to learn more about linux code can you recommend a good starter book.

thanks: Gord Hope
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: huh on November 26, 2010, 10:00:45 pm
I don't know what to do with the instruction ctrl+ v is this after I type in your code starting with deb file:/user/pluto/deb-cash .
Then you say to cntrl + x to exit nano, is this  a typo here.

My apologies, you can't control + v.  Shortcut to paste command doesn't work.  Instead, I will copy the sources.list information from this forum with my windows box (just highlight and "copy") then log into my core with putty, open the sources.list file with nano (it will be blank here as that nano creates the file if it does not exist- which it won't because you moved the original file to sources.list.OLD) and from there right click to paste in the lines.

If you're a better typer than me (and/or more patient to check every character) you can also just manually type in the sources.

To exit nano, then, press "ctrl" + "x" and you will be prompted to save the file.  Press "Y" to save the changes.  From there you can apt-get update....

Sorry for misleading- I corrected my original post.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: kilo on November 28, 2010, 03:55:26 am
Ok
Im getting this error now after doing apt-get update.....

W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Any ideas?

Thanks

Kilo
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: kilo on November 28, 2010, 05:07:37 am
Ok
They stop supporting intrepid on that site too.
Anyone have a replacement for those archives now.

Thanks

Kilo
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: erasmot on November 28, 2010, 10:31:34 am
Ok
Im getting this error now after doing apt-get update.....

W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Any ideas?

Thanks

Kilo
sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: jh15 on November 28, 2010, 02:40:08 pm
Kilo did you get your system and mythtv running?

I see various workarounds, don't know where to check, updates etc.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: huh on November 29, 2010, 05:12:31 am
Hey- I'm somewhat tempted to remove my sources posted above...  Just tried to reinstall with the latest snapshot (Nov 23, 2010) and not all of the sources are available.   I copied possible replacements from Chrysemys' wiki page here http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/User:Chrysemys (http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/User:Chrysemys) page which seemed to solve the problem when the missing sources were commented out....  While my core seems to be running great, I cannot get createTBZ to complete successfully causing all of the MDs to fail to properly connect to the core.

Not sure what the proper steps to take to get a stable, MD compatible installation.  Thom and crew have been working (from what I saw on irc over the last couple weeks) hard to get a build working on 1004... I think my plan right now is to limp along with just the core until another snapshot is released.


Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on November 29, 2010, 02:15:26 pm
I think your problem is the latest snapshot.  I don't believe that all of the files are being pulled into the dvd and during the lmce install some packages aren't found.  An example of this is the nvidia 195 driver.  I had to manually install that while playing with a latest snapshot.  I would go back to a previous snapshot from 11-1.  I believe it is 23388.  That was the last good snapshot before the version went end of life.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: phenigma on November 30, 2010, 10:39:26 pm
Right now the latest snapshots are more than likely broken.

I have just completed a successful installation of a Hybrid and diskless MD, everything appears to be working (that I've tested).  I used snapshot 23251, changed sources.list to point to old-releases, did an apt-get dist-upgrade and ran the install script.  Everything just worked...

They stop supporting intrepid on that site too.
Anyone have a replacement for those archives now.

At this time medibuntu packages for Intrepid appear to still be available at the following mirror:

deb ftp://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/medibuntu/ intrepid free non-free

J.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on December 01, 2010, 02:26:04 am
The medibuntu site seems to work.  I just started another test install and was able to do an apt-get dist-upgrade that installed a couple of packages from their site.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: DragonK on December 01, 2010, 10:28:50 am
The medibuntu site seems to work.  I just started another test install and was able to do an apt-get dist-upgrade that installed a couple of packages from their site.

Hi, This is a STUPID question but,

I've read many threads where users do "apt-get dist-upgrade" but the install notes indicate not to do it  ???
From the Wiki; http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Installing_0810

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Keeping Up-to-date with updates
Note It is strongly recommend that you do not update/upgrade a stable, working system user:L3mce

Once you have installed LinuxMCE-0810, all you need to do to keep up-to-date with the latest and greatest, is run the following from a terminal on the core and each MD:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
Note: You should NOT run apt-get dist-upgrade after LinuxMCE is installed, as it can cause several problems, including having different kernel versions on your core and media directors, and the installation of new Kubuntu packages that can break some features!


Regards Karel
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on December 01, 2010, 02:13:20 pm
It does appear to be a bit contradictory but when you first install before you run the lmce script you will want to do the dist-upgrade.

I just did another install on my test machine and the packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid line seems to work with no problem.  Doing the dist-upgrade pulled in the mplayer packages and installed them.  I was not able to see everything that was going by but I do not think I had a problem.  I used snapshot 23326.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: phenigma on December 02, 2010, 01:53:22 am
I've read many threads where users do "apt-get dist-upgrade" but the install notes indicate not to do it  ???
From the Wiki; http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Installing_0810

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Keeping Up-to-date with updates
Note It is strongly recommend that you do not update/upgrade a stable, working system user:L3mce

Once you have installed LinuxMCE-0810, all you need to do to keep up-to-date with the latest and greatest, is run the following from a terminal on the core and each MD:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
Note: You should NOT run apt-get dist-upgrade after LinuxMCE is installed, as it can cause several problems, including having different kernel versions on your core and media directors, and the installation of new Kubuntu packages that can break some features!

I believe the origninal reasoning behind the warning was that at that time a kernel upgrade had been issued by ubuntu.  The kernel upgrade broke a bunch of functionality and caused other problems.  Since 0810 has been at end of life, around April, this has not been an issue because there have been no ubuntu updates.

J.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: catweazel on December 03, 2010, 12:55:31 pm
Hi All
Im a noob to linux but keen on getting this running. Its getting frustrating though. I would have thought most of the incorrect references in the source list would have been changed in what appears to be a weekly snapshot. With the amount of hits this topic has, the problem has obviously been around for a while.

Now the frustrating bit. I have tried to edit the sources list. Have got as far as making and editing a copy with all references to "archive" and "security" changed to "old-releases". Now I did say I was a noob. I can't get editing rights to replace the existing file or cut and paste into it and save. All I want to do is edit it with editors that come with the Kubuntu install. Have looked at numerous sites with no success.
 
Please help the noobie !!! 
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: mythtified on December 03, 2010, 01:31:05 pm
In linux there are certain areas and processes that require root privileges to change them.  To gain temporary root privileges type sudo <your command> if making a change in a terminal.  If the program is gui based then from a command prompt it would be ksudo and the command.  So in your case, you could ksudo <your favorite editor> /etc/apt/sources.list, hit enter, and type in your password.  Edit the file and save it.  You are done.  Or you could edit a copy, save it to your home directory, change the permissions to match the original file, change owner ship to root, then sudo cp the file into the /etc/apt directory.  I will leave it up to you to research chmod(for changing permissions) and chown ( for changing ownership ).

I am sure there is probably a better way but I usually edit the file with vi in a terminal.  Being new to linux you would probably want to steer clear of vi for now.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: phenigma on December 03, 2010, 03:47:10 pm
Hi All
Im a noob to linux but keen on getting this running. Its getting frustrating though. I would have thought most of the incorrect references in the source list would have been changed in what appears to be a weekly snapshot. With the amount of hits this topic has, the problem has obviously been around for a while.

I think it is safe to assume that snapshots are on-hold until some of the major issues surrounding intrepid end-of-life are resolved.

It looks like the final snapshot produced before the intrepid repository disappeared is:  LinuxMCE-8.10-23388-i386.iso        01-Nov-2010 00:17  3.8G.  My recommendation is to not use anything newer than this until issues can be resolved.  Mythified and myself both point to snapshots that have successfully installed for us in recent days.

J.

J.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: purps on December 03, 2010, 05:15:08 pm
Hi All
Im a noob to linux but keen on getting this running. Its getting frustrating though. I would have thought most of the incorrect references in the source list would have been changed in what appears to be a weekly snapshot. With the amount of hits this topic has, the problem has obviously been around for a while.

Now the frustrating bit. I have tried to edit the sources list. Have got as far as making and editing a copy with all references to "archive" and "security" changed to "old-releases". Now I did say I was a noob. I can't get editing rights to replace the existing file or cut and paste into it and save. All I want to do is edit it with editors that come with the Kubuntu install. Have looked at numerous sites with no success.
 
Please help the noobie !!! 

Either...
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sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list...which uses a text editor (kate in this case) to open the sources.list file with root privileges. Or...

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sudo dolphin...to open a file browser with root privileges, BUT BEWARE, you'll be able to change anything you point the file browser at, so things can easily go willy tits if you're not careful.

And this should explain how sudo works http://xkcd.com/149/
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: buckle on December 03, 2010, 06:26:13 pm
And this should explain how sudo works http://xkcd.com/149/

One of my favorites.  :)  
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: ghope5 on December 10, 2010, 09:47:36 pm
Hi guys, I have just installed the Dec.5 Snapshot. I did the apt-get update twice and apt-get dist-upgrade, everything seemed to go
fine. I went through the setup with Sara and when she gets to the software add on which I believe is the "libdvdcss" file that came in when installing ver 710, in fact I tried my copy of 710 and the software was there. my question is has this software been removed
from the 810 version. if it has then how do I get my dvd to play movies. Otherwise this snapshot appears to be working well
thanks for any help offered.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: purps on December 11, 2010, 01:29:21 am
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sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
on the MD(s) in question.

I assume the "add software" part of the wizard will be present in the RC.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: ghope5 on December 11, 2010, 04:41:28 am
Thank you Perps, this worked, not having much knowledge or command of linux I was at a loss
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: twodogs on December 31, 2010, 12:17:54 am
I'm confused. Trying to install the latest snapshot and modifying the sources.list gives a stream of errors (attached) when I try to update. The old-releases don't seem to be available, yet the latest mention of this problem was on Dec 11. What snapshot should I use and what is the trick to installing it?
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: purps on December 31, 2010, 01:39:24 am
Is your Internet connection working properly?

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: twodogs on December 31, 2010, 04:04:10 am
Check out the big brain on Matt! That was exactly the problem.

John
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: persundberg on January 05, 2011, 01:23:34 pm
Hi guys, I have just installed the Dec.5 Snapshot. I did the apt-get update twice and apt-get dist-upgrade, everything seemed to go
fine. I went through the setup with Sara and when she gets to the software add on which I believe is the "libdvdcss" file that came in when installing ver 710, in fact I tried my copy of 710 and the software was there. my question is has this software been removed
from the 810 version. if it has then how do I get my dvd to play movies. Otherwise this snapshot appears to be working well
thanks for any help offered.

I installed the dec5 snapshot DVD but I also build the MD image. THEN I rebooted and got stuck in an endless reboot loop. I have had an earlier version of linuxmce 8.10 installed that worked just fine on this system. anyone had this problem and is there a solution to it? Also I got a lot of 404 errors... :/
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: bongowongo on January 05, 2011, 01:54:24 pm
Why did you install the 5 december snapshot?
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: ghope5 on January 06, 2011, 12:47:54 pm
Myth tv was giving me some problems from snapshot 23479, recorded tv was not showing up
in the Video file. It seemed to work because now I can see my list of recorded programs and delete
when I have watched them. I am now useing  snapshot 23559  this is a learning exercise for me I am
testing random snapshots  to get experence with the 810 version, setting up myth ect.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: tribit on January 06, 2011, 07:22:06 pm
I installed the dec5 snapshot DVD but I also build the MD image. THEN I rebooted and got stuck in an endless reboot loop. I have had an earlier version of linuxmce 8.10 installed that worked just fine on this system. anyone had this problem and is there a solution to it? Also I got a lot of 404 errors... :/


I 've had the same reboot problem. while booting it tries to install new graphic driver (in my case Nvidia-glx-260) using apt-get install but it cant. In /usr/pluto/bin/nvidia-install.sh comment out reboot.
Title: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer
Post by: funwes3 on January 07, 2011, 09:30:30 pm
I am a Linux noob and have been fighting with these issues for the last few days.  Finally, on the 5th install of the software I was able to get it working.  Here were the steps I followed:

I used a combination of the following sources:

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Installing_0810 (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Installing_0810)
http://linuxmce.iptp.org/snapshots/LinuxMCE-8.10-23388-i386.iso (http://linuxmce.iptp.org/snapshots/LinuxMCE-8.10-23388-i386.iso)
This thread
Trial & Error

1.  Download and burn the latest 3.8GB .iso from snapshots site.
2.  Boot w/ the DVD and choose the last option: Install LinuxMCE
3.  Once in Kubuntu, replace the /etc/apt/sources.list file with the one posted by attunezero.
4.  Run the update commands: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
4.  Download the following command to get new-installer file: wget -c http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/new-installer-latest.tar.gz
5.  Run this command to unpack it: tar xvf new-installer-latest.tar.gz
6.  Run: cd new-installer
7.  Run the following commands IN ORDER:
./pre-install-from-repo.sh
./mce-install.sh
./post-install.sh

After a reboot, you should get the A/V Wizard.

Good Luck all!!