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Title: UPDATE: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 10, 2010, 01:07:47 am
Hi all,

i am building a new core/hybrid with a MSI MS7191 mainboard (with onboard Ati), 1 gig an a NVidia GT220.
i am using the 8.10 snapshot from 4 july.
i can't turn off onboard video, i can only set it to 'auto'.

i did succesful install ubuntu 9.10 with no problem at all.

the install went smooth altho i could not do the update after the install of kubuntu.
then after the reboot, i can't seem to get the AVWizard.
i saw the screen where it says orbiter generator done (ctrl+alt+1)

i tried the lspci 'trick' but that doesn't help, my busID is 01:00.0 (axactly this way)
i typed "PCI:01:0:0" is that ok?

the GT220 needs driver 195 and above is the default driver for LinuxMCE older than that?

does anybody have a pointer in the right direction or a solution?

kind regards,
Raymond
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: joerod on July 10, 2010, 04:44:05 pm
From my experience lmce will try to update the driver to 195, but at install it has 173.  It apparently tries to update right before the avwizard, so try ctl-alt-F6 then ctl-alt-F8 to see if its actually updating or download...  But yes it does install 195
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 10, 2010, 05:28:45 pm
Thanks for your responce,

What exactly am i looking at with ctl-alt-F6 then ctl-alt-F8, what does it do?
How can i check driver version and if its too old how do i update?

Greets Raymond
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 12, 2010, 09:28:27 pm
I am thinking it has something to do with my bios and the onboard ati video card.
i tried all the options in the wiki but no luck,
somehow it doesn't want to start AV wizard.

i also tried a new install, after the kubuntu install i activated te driver (195), after restart i could get a picture too.

i am running out of ideas,
can somebody please help me,
its driving me nuts

thanks
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: MANDINGO on July 13, 2010, 05:50:29 am
Very simple

remove your video card and let the system finish the setup using the onboard video card...
at the avwizard select ui1 without alpha blending and complete

Once the system is operational then go ahead and install your video card and let it work its magic

The key is the get the install to complete then deal with tweaking the system

Thanks

Mandingo
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 13, 2010, 11:10:57 am
thanks MANDINGO for your quick responce,

i am at work right now (and have to work a lot this week  >:( ) so i can't try your solution just yet.
your solution looks very logical, super thanks.

i will give an update when i tried it

thanks
Raymond
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: nite_man on July 13, 2010, 12:55:37 pm
I also had a problem with GT220. I tried to add it to the working installation and new one but without luck. By some reason instead of video it gives me just a black screen. So, I gave up now and use integrated GF8200.
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 13, 2010, 03:00:09 pm
i saw that the guys over at dianemo/cascade got the gt220 working, i hope when i get the time i get things working also....

maybe it also works if u do a install with only 1 monitor connected to the onboard video and the via webadmin set it to the gt220, or is that a stupid suggestion?

greets Raymond
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: nite_man on July 13, 2010, 03:10:19 pm
i saw that the guys over at dianemo/cascade got the gt220 working, i hope when i get the time i get things working also....

maybe it also works if u do a install with only 1 monitor connected to the onboard video and the via webadmin set it to the gt220, or is that a stupid suggestion?

greets Raymond

I know that dianemo/cascade uses GT220 successfully with 0810. As I already wrote I tried both ways - existing and new installations but without luck. Andrew told me that GT220 has different output numeration then integrated cards. HDMI output of GT220 will be HDMI2 (DVI - HDMI1) but for integrated cards both DVI and HDMI point to HDMI1. Maybe this is a trick. I didn't have a time to experiment with it during World Cup :) Hope now I have.
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 13, 2010, 05:46:03 pm
Quote
I know that dianemo/cascade uses GT220 successfully with 0810. As I already wrote I tried both ways - existing and new installations but without luck. Andrew told me that GT220 has different output numeration then integrated cards. HDMI output of GT220 will be HDMI2 (DVI - HDMI1) but for integrated cards both DVI and HDMI point to HDMI1. Maybe this is a trick. I didn't have a time to experiment with it during World Cup  Hope now I have.

hi nite_man,
could u explain more about output numeration?
do u mean the 'Option "ConnectedMonitor" "XXX"' part in the xorg.conf file?
and how exactly is it meant to be used?
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: nite_man on July 13, 2010, 07:18:21 pm
I'm talking about outputs in the AVWizard. Looks like it should be chosen HDMI2 there in case of GT220. Because HDMI1 is DVI.
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: DragonK on July 14, 2010, 04:01:47 pm
Hi Raybe,

I have an GT220 in my system. Is it connected via HDMI cable? I had alot of trial and error getting mine to show the initial AV-Wizard, but in the end what helped was,

Boot core/hybrid when you see the "Kubuntu" splash screen press the "shift" key repeatedly. You'll hear several beeps. Once the screen goes blank, i pressed "1" waited, no change. Pressed "2", waited no change. Pressed "3" waited.... viola AV-Wizzard.
I only need to get the HDMI audio to work now.

This was my experience to get it working, it might or might not work for you. Try numbers from 1-6 and see what happens.
Thats my 2cents worth.

Regards Karel
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: kyfalcon on July 15, 2010, 10:09:46 pm
Try this

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=7992.15

I had to do this to disable the on board graphic card for one of my MD's
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 15, 2010, 10:35:41 pm
thanks kyfalcon,

i have an onboard ati wich i need to get out of my way  ;)

Quote
1. Remove the add-on graphics card and boot into your ubuntu install as normal.

2. Open terminal and enter the following without quotes:

"sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"

3. Add the following two entries without quotes to the end of the file:

"blacklist agpgart"
"blacklist intel_agp"

4. Shutdown the pc and reinstall the add-on graphics card.

5. Connect monitor to add-on card and boot pc.

i wanna use the dvi connector on the add-on card, i'm having a few questions:

wil i use the same commands?
what is blacklist?
do u first install linuxmce without the add-on card?
what exactly do these commands do?

thanks up front

Raymond
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: kyfalcon on July 16, 2010, 10:29:51 pm
thanks kyfalcon,

i have an onboard ati wich i need to get out of my way  ;)

Quote
1. Remove the add-on graphics card and boot into your ubuntu install as normal.

2. Open terminal and enter the following without quotes:

"sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"

3. Add the following two entries without quotes to the end of the file:

"blacklist agpgart"
"blacklist intel_agp"

4. Shutdown the pc and reinstall the add-on graphics card.

5. Connect monitor to add-on card and boot pc.

i wanna use the dvi connector on the add-on card, i'm having a few questions:

wil i use the same commands?
what is blacklist?
do u first install linuxmce without the add-on card?
what exactly do these commands do?

thanks up front

Raymond

yes use the same commands, you may need to change what is being blacklisted. From looking at my instructions I may have had an intel built in where you have an ATI. Yes install linuxMCE without the add-on card and go to a prompt and make the updates. Then shut dow, put in the add on card and force a restart of the AVWizard. The blacklist commands keep those modules from running and by doing that it will ignore your on board card when you bring up the system. Once I did that LinuxMCE was able to recognize and use my add in Graphics card. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 17, 2010, 12:55:39 pm
hi all, i wanna give u an update as to how far i came along:

first i tried to manually change the xorg.conf file, but without of luck, somehow it automaticly changed back to default (could be because i was trying to enter AVWizard).

then with the gt220 still in the system i tried to blacklist the onboard card, but wasn't shure wat to blacklist "ATI", "fglrx", "vesa" or something else; btw do u have to type with or without capital letter?;
still no luck.

yesterday i took out the gt220 and installed the 810 snaphot 23154;
and voila i got myself a working 810 core, no problem, with UI1;
so as MANDINGO suggested i put the gt220 back in but sadly that didn't work, i got the boot screen but the orbiter doesn't get displayed;
i get at tty1 the status updates: orbiter generation started etc....;
i can log in at tty1-tty4;
at ctrl+alt+7 i get a blank screen with cursor flashing;
at ctrl+alt+8 i get to see some data i think about the launch manager.

on the sunny side i got the new weborbiter 2.0 working and i am loving it, super work!
and i can log into the webadmin.

since i wanna connect through DVI,
it tried via the webadmin the following settings, without luck (i also get this resolution in the orbiter):
Connector = DVI
Audio Settings = S
Video Settings = 1280 1024/60
Architecture = i386
Extra Parameters = 0
TV Standard = 1280x1024
Release = 810
Video Card = Standard Video
Sound Card= Standard Sound Card
Hardware Acceleration = xv

but i noticed that the fields "IP" and "MAC" are empty, will this matter?
how to get "IP" and "MAC" of my core?

does anyone have any suggestions?

thanks alot,

br,
Raymond
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on July 21, 2010, 10:48:54 pm
New Update!

with lsmod i saw the modules ati_agp and agpgart loaded so blacklisted them;
after this i tried via the webadmin to configure the onscreen orbiter;
i tried DVI, HDMI, HDMI1,... no luck
also the AVWizard could not be used.

so i tried a new install;
after the kubuntu install, before i did anything, i blacklisted the above and yhen tried the 195 driver from nvidia,... still no luck
but strangly if i change driver back to "vesa" in the xorg.conf i get picture...

at the end of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file there is this message:
"Saw signal 11.  Server aborting."

i have been seeking a solution for this for about 3 weeks.....
anybody any ideas?
Title: Re: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: theteju on July 22, 2010, 09:24:01 pm
hey I am not an expert but I had similar issue with 8800 GT where I get to a point where no AV wizard. I can show you my trick, its not technical but it works.

1. you said, you had your system up and running with your 220 out. if so, get your system up running without 220, hope you will see your basic UI1 on the screen and everything else is fine.

2. from there you want to rerun AV wizard from advance. the system will try to restart. as soon as you see the bios screen turn it off. in other words do not let it completely restart. at this what you want to do is,, put your 220 back in and let it restart. it is the same way as pressing the "shift" key between two beeps unfortunately for some reason my system does not make that beeps so I follow this weird method.

3. now assuming you have 220 card in and your system is trying to restart and it should try to get AV wizard. the problem is the system will try to give the screen from basic connection. in my 8800 GT it was s-video connection. since I had two DVI and one S-video. try to connect all inputs VGA preferable, if not the svideo and it will give you the AV wizard screen.

if you dont see any thing... press 3 wait,,,,,, nothing then try press 4 ,,, wait... for DVIs there is a list for number but for latest it does not corelate and also varies from card to card. after all,, the system will try the basic input on your card first followed by DVI then hDMI... thats how it goes....

I hope my steps make sense to you. please dont give up. you are almost there. as you had it up running once. its just few steps and you will be happy.

let me know,  thanks.

Title: UPDATE: NVidia GT220, no AVWizard
Post by: RayBe on August 02, 2010, 10:27:24 am
hi all,

just wanted to give a update,

sadly my core died, i wanted to swap the gt220 for a ati-card wich i had somewhere laying around,
the ati-card slipped through my fingers and landed on my mainboard and broke it.

the good news is, now i have to get another mainboard  ;)
i will get one without onboard graphics  ;D

i was going to get another mainboard anyway because after roughfly 6 weeks of trying,
dispite all the good suggestions and help from you all,
i wasn't able to get it working (wich was very frustrating),

a big thanks to everyone who posted their suggestions and helped me!
(i learned a lot from it)

i will post my new setup when i get it up and running
if someone has a suggestions for a good AM3 mainboard, please let me know.

br
Raymond