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Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« on: November 07, 2011, 01:19:08 pm »
Tried to browse the wiki and forum, so far no luck. I have installed an MD, and chose the Denon AVC-A1SRA (RS232) as my receiver - assuming I could change it to i/r, since this model does not have any RS232 port, and I have an USB_UIRT and a remote for the Jetway ION that I run the MD on...

btw: cool that this remote works with USB-UIRT out of the box - but I assume it is similar to Win MCE remotes (has the same buttons). How do you guys with that remote select "Media" or "Ambience"???? Can't seem to find a button, but perhaps mapping off red and green would work (haven't figured out how to do that yet)

Back on topic: I can’t seem to find out change control method for a Denon receiver. When browsing templates I can find some Denon RCUs... But how to select? Should I create a new device, and then add that remote as child, or???


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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 01:23:54 pm »
The Denon AVC template is spefically designed for units which are controlled by RS232. This is because it has to send specific commands which are VERY different from what happens over IR.

You can not use this device template with an IR denon receiver.

Now, I WOULD recommend replacing your Denon receiver with a model that has RS232 (as these are very prevalent and inexpensive, i.e. 2308/2309/2310/2311 Denon has a habit of using the last two digits as a year number for the model.)

Barring that; What you would have to do, because we do not have an IR template for Denon receivers, is create a new IR based template for your device in the web admin, by going to Wizard > AV Devices > New device, and then click Add Device Template, and following the instructions there to select the capabilities of your receiver, what commands it can receive, and to use your USB UIRT to learn the codes from your existing receiver's remote.

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 01:32:39 pm »
Hi Toppot

I have submitted a template for my 1708. Most of the buttons have been loaded
Switch Inputs, On/Off, Volume.

I have submitted it to the site for inclusion, but if its not there I can send you all the IR codes if u want.

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 01:36:18 pm »
Hi Toppot

I have submitted a template for my 1708. Most of the buttons have been loaded
Switch Inputs, On/Off, Volume.

I have submitted it to the site for inclusion, but if its not there I can send you all the IR codes if u want.


Would be great - have you discovered discrete volume settings via i/r, or am I dreaming a little to much here???

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 01:41:02 pm »
*rofl* yes...you are dreaming. ;)

While it would theoretically be possible, you would need a discrete set of IR codes for each possible volume level, which would easily exhaust the PRONTO code space.

Seriously bro, if you're wanting that....GET AN AMP WITH RS232 CONTROL.

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 01:42:02 pm »
as for submitting the codes, do you have a trac ticket for which you submitted?

If not, please create a trac ticket, and submit your codes using sqlCVS diff.

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 01:46:58 pm »

Now, I WOULD recommend replacing your Denon receiver with a model that has RS232 (as these are very prevalent and inexpensive, i.e. 2308/2309/2310/2311 Denon has a habit of using the last two digits as a year number for the model.)


-Thom

Sadly not that simple... The wife requires silver components, meaning at least a €2.000 4311 or a used model, but with Airplay being in all current models that would be crazy... Perhaps since there is network in all new models (the xx12 line, above 1612) it would be possible to write a tcp control template??? Then its only the colour problem, but that probably only applies to a few of us... Denon decided to only offer silver for the top-line models :(

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 02:38:46 pm »
as for submitting the codes, do you have a trac ticket for which you submitted?

If not, please create a trac ticket, and submit your codes using sqlCVS diff.

-Thom

Hi Thom

I will create a trac ticket, i did do the sqlCVS commit, if I remember correctly, but I will check tonite.


Tony

I will post my IR codes for you tonite.


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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 06:24:54 pm »
someone that is good with paint could certainly make one silver ;)
yes the network ones are actually controllable over the network. its actually the same commands as rs232.

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 02:39:48 pm »
Is there allready a template for the network ones, or should I use the RS232 template?

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 01:25:28 pm »
hi all,
I create a new template for AVR-1611 vía IR.
It's working fine.
Could you tell to me how can I share this with the community ?

thanks
Hernan

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Re: Controlling Denon A/V (avr-1908) WITOUT RS232, but with i/r
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 04:23:03 pm »
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