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Hi all!

I will use a LinuxMCE system in my future house, but that is over a year in the future. However I would like to rip all my movie-dvd's and music cd's to an empty drive that I'm supposed to install in the core later on.

Is there anything in particular I should think about when doing this? Filesystem? Folder structure? Acually having LinuxMCE installed on the drive?

Anything that can help. I'm a newbie :S

As for now I haven't even been able to try LinuxMCE since I only have Mac's in my home.

I would like as high quality as possible, so for the music I'm thinking FLAC.

Thank you!

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 04:09:05 pm »
Hi all!

I will use a LinuxMCE system in my future house, but that is over a year in the future. However I would like to rip all my movie-dvd's and music cd's to an empty drive that I'm supposed to install in the core later on.

Is there anything in particular I should think about when doing this? Filesystem? Folder structure? Acually having LinuxMCE installed on the drive?

Anything that can help. I'm a newbie :S

As for now I haven't even been able to try LinuxMCE since I only have Mac's in my home.

I would like as high quality as possible, so for the music I'm thinking FLAC.

Thank you!

rgds,
Christian

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 07:06:27 pm »
Thanx! :)

In which filesystem should I format the disc?

Is it possible to copy files from my mac to ext3 and 4 in an easy way?

rgds,
Christian

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 03:44:42 am »
I hope I am not too late to reply you,

But I would suggest to go for xfs format for media.


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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 06:25:53 pm »
you people make this way...way...waaaaay too difficult. ;)

Put your media on a NAS. Just plug in more when you need more storage. Done.

(We would love for an interested hacker to add some code to the web admin and orbiter to deal with single disks though.) ;)

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 12:05:50 am »
Ok. Thanks! :)

What filesystem format should I use for the NAS?

Is it better to have a NAS for the media storage than the internal drives in the core?
The drives I'm talking about was intended to be installed in the core once I have the system up an running.

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 12:07:45 am »
you are thinking too hard. :P

LinuxMCE can automatically detect both SMB and NFS network shares across a network.

Literally, go out, get a good NAS brick, make a few shares if you have to, plug it into the network, let LinuxMCE detect and use it... done.

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2011, 04:16:41 am »
I use unRAID as a NAS.
www.lime-technology.com
You can add hdds with parity. Good value, upto 48TB storage at the moment is possible.

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2011, 07:17:48 am »
tschak99: Thanks, just know so little about everything when it comes to linuxMCE yet ;)

joshpond: Looks interesting. I will definately take a look at this - What are the major benefits of this compared to other NAS's?

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 03:27:25 pm »
Another thing, what Video format will be best to store all the video in?
I want a good lossless that still streams nicely :)

When it comes to audio I'm pretty sure of FLAC

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 03:01:48 am »
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joshpond: Looks interesting. I will definately take a look at this - What are the major benefits of this compared to other NAS's?

Price, you can add (from memory) 22 hdds plus one parity so you get good storage for your value. (ie RAID 5 has about 33% loss) unRAID only gives 1 hdd loss.
The drawback of this is that writes are slow, around 30-40 MB/s but reads are fine (which is what you want for media)
You can build from pc parts, even old ones.
Cost is pretty good for the amount of storage.
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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 07:02:10 am »
I'm intrigued joshpond. I've looked around, and it seems like an affordable and quite future-safe alternative :)

However I'm also thinking about building my core in this :

http://www.codegenworld.com/showDetails.asp?max_id_search=20&min_id_search=&pro_id_search=203

It has 9 3.5" bays, which should be sufficient for some time for SERVER storage.

Isn't it possible to build the LinuxMCE core in that chassi, set up a webmin NAS in it (or is that necessary when using it as core?), and for now only buy a couple of SATA discs to rip to?

Would that be something? Or is it not as great?

rgds,
Christian

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2011, 06:31:22 pm »
Do not use RAID 5.. It's a shitty compromise, by trying to break the "pick 2 out of 3" rule, giving you terrible write performance, and below par read performance.

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Re: Ripping music and video from CD and DVD for future LinuxMCE system
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 10:54:43 pm »
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(ie RAID 5 has about 33% loss)

This is just plain wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_5#RAID_5_usable_size

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RAID 5 usable sizeParity data uses up the capacity of one drive in the array (this can be seen by comparing it with RAID 4: RAID 5 distributes the parity data across the disks, while RAID 4 centralizes it on one disk, but the amount of parity data is the same). If the drives vary in capacity, the smallest of them sets the limit. Therefore, the usable capacity of a RAID 5 array is , where N is the total number of drives in the array and Smin is the capacity of the smallest drive in the array.

The number of hard disks that can belong to a single array is limited only by the capacity of the storage controller in hardware implementations, or by the OS in software RAID. One caveat is that unlike RAID 1, as the number of disks in an array increases, the chance of data loss due to multiple drive failures is increased. This is because there is a reduced ratio of "losable" drives (the number of drives which may fail before data is lost) to total drives.[citation needed]

From your link. If all 3 disks are the same size you lose one to parity, ie 33%.

If you have more disks, yes you can minimise the unusable disk space, but lose 2 drives and you lose all data as the parity is broken up.

With unRAID lose 2 disks and you lose 2 disk's worth of data.

Granted write performance is pretty average with unRAID but read is fine. I'm not here to sell it, basically what I use. Read the website and the forum for more.

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Isn't it possible to build the LinuxMCE core in that chassi, set up a webmin NAS in it (or is that necessary when using it as core?), and for now only buy a couple of SATA discs to rip to?

Would that be something? Or is it not as great?

Sorry can't help you with that, above my paygrade.
Josh
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